From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Mon Nov  2 15:52:45 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:52:45 -0700
Subject: [rancid]  Ignore memory changes?
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7491F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

Is there any way to ignore flash changes?  Sorry if this has been asked
before, I can't seem to find it.  

- !Flash:   475  -rwx        8271   Nov 1 2009 03:47:10 -07:00
config.text
+ !Flash:   473  -rwx        8271   Nov 2 2009 03:45:18 -07:00
config.text


From ThomisonL at muni.org  Mon Nov  2 21:18:37 2009
From: ThomisonL at muni.org (Thomison, Lee)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:18:37 -0900
Subject: [rancid] Re: svn not updating?
In-Reply-To: <e399ee80910182055h5c9a140dtce435df544d0d880@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27B58F038E8FC24680CE64F6CDC508E590A2DA34AE@mlpsmail01.mlp.muniverse.net>
	<e399ee80910182055h5c9a140dtce435df544d0d880@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27B58F038E8FC24680CE64F6CDC508E590A2DA8663@mlpsmail01.mlp.muniverse.net>

That did it.  I wasn't doing the svn update in /var/rancid/cis, and the /cis had me thinking I had something misconfigured to look for /cis.

Thanks very much

________________________________________

Your repo directory seems to be in a busted state ("svn: Directory '/cis' is out of date")...

Try this:
cd /var/rancid/cis/ && svn update

I believe it should work after that.

oo



From heas at shrubbery.net  Mon Nov  2 21:24:39 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:24:39 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Extreme Issue
In-Reply-To: <013c01ca58b7$99d8eb70$cd8ac250$@com>
References: <013c01ca58b7$99d8eb70$cd8ac250$@com>
Message-ID: <20091102212439.GQ24498@shrubbery.net>

Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:48:11AM -0500, Peder:
> I am having an issue getting RANCID to pull down my Extreme configs from
> Summit 200's.  I've seen several posts where others have had the same issue,
> but I haven't really seen a solution.  I am using local accounts on the
> Extreme (I tried my username and admin and they both have the same issue).
> I can ping and telnet to the extreme from the RANCID box, but it will just
> not grab the configs.  The logs just show "missed commands" and the devices
> show in the "up" file.  I am trying to pull configs from two switches and
> they both have the same issue.  I've tried this:
> 
> ./clogin  -c "show configuration detail" 192.168.1.2
> 
> It logs in, grabs the config and then just sits there.  It never closes the
> connection.  If I do the same thing from a Cisco switch that I have, it goes
> all the way thru and closes the connection just fine.

you'll have to re-run this clogin with -d and collect the debug info
near the end of the configuration dump to the hang point.  also, include
your host o/s info.

> If I do ./clogin -d 192.168.1.2, I get this (I cut off some of the beginning
> debugs as I don't think it is relevant because you can see that it actually
> does get logged in and then just sits there):
> 
> expect: set expect_out(0,string) "#"
> expect: set expect_out(1,string) "#"
> expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
> expect: set expect_out(buffer) " \r\n\r\n\r\nExtremeware\r\nCopyright (C)
> 1996-2004 Extreme Networks.  All rights
> reserved.\r\n===============================================================
> \r\n\r\nPress the <tab> key at any time for completions.\r\nRemember to save
> your configuration changes.\r\nS200-B:1 #"
> send: sending "\r" to { exp4 }
> 
> expect: does " " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression "[\r\n]+"? no
> "^(.+[:.])1 ((#| \(enable\)))"? no
> "^.+(#| \(enable\))"? no
> 
> S200-B:1 #
> expect: does " \r\nS200-B:1 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
> "[\r\n]+"? yes
> expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n"
> expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
> expect: set expect_out(buffer) " \r\n"
> expect: continuing expect
> 
> expect: does "S200-B:1 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
> "[\r\n]+"? no
> "^(.+[:.])1 ((#| \(enable\)))"? yes
> expect: set expect_out(0,string) "S200-B:1 #"
> expect: set expect_out(1,string) "S200-B:"
> expect: set expect_out(2,string) "#"
> expect: set expect_out(3,string) "#"
> expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
> expect: set expect_out(buffer) "S200-B:1 #"
> tty_raw_noecho: was raw = 0  echo = 1
> 
> 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Peder
> 
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From peder at networkoblivion.com  Mon Nov  2 21:39:07 2009
From: peder at networkoblivion.com (Peder)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:39:07 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Re: Extreme Issue
In-Reply-To: <20091102212439.GQ24498@shrubbery.net>
References: <013c01ca58b7$99d8eb70$cd8ac250$@com>
	<20091102212439.GQ24498@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <090801ca5c04$e809c760$b81d5620$@com>

It is an old Trustix Linux box.  It works fine for Cisco routers, switches,
PIX's and Juniper routers, it is just Extreme switches that fail.  It shows
the devices as up in routers.up, it just appears to hang when it tries to
pull down the config.  Here is the tail of this command:

./clogin -d -c "show configuration detail" 206.190.240.2


expect: does "config cpu-dos-protect port 25 alert-threshold 150
interval-time 1\r\nconfig cpu-dos-protect port 26 alert-threshold 150
interval-time 1\r\n# Enhanced-dos-protect configuration\r\ndisable
enhanced-dos-protect ipfdb\r\ndisable enhanced-dos-protect
rate-limit\r\n\r\n#\r\n# End of configuration file for
"S200-B".\r\n#\r\nS200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
"\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? yes
expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n"
expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
expect: set expect_out(buffer) "config cpu-dos-protect port 25
alert-threshold 150 interval-time 1\r\n"
config cpu-dos-protect port 25 alert-threshold 150 interval-time 1
expect: continuing expect

expect: does "config cpu-dos-protect port 26 alert-threshold 150
interval-time 1\r\n# Enhanced-dos-protect configuration\r\ndisable
enhanced-dos-protect ipfdb\r\ndisable enhanced-dos-protect
rate-limit\r\n\r\n#\r\n# End of configuration file for
"S200-B".\r\n#\r\nS200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
"\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? yes
expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n"
expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
expect: set expect_out(buffer) "config cpu-dos-protect port 26
alert-threshold 150 interval-time 1\r\n"
config cpu-dos-protect port 26 alert-threshold 150 interval-time 1
expect: continuing expect

expect: does "# Enhanced-dos-protect configuration\r\ndisable
enhanced-dos-protect ipfdb\r\ndisable enhanced-dos-protect
rate-limit\r\n\r\n#\r\n# End of configuration file for
"S200-B".\r\n#\r\nS200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
"\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? yes
expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n"
expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
expect: set expect_out(buffer) "# Enhanced-dos-protect configuration\r\n"
# Enhanced-dos-protect configuration
expect: continuing expect

expect: does "disable enhanced-dos-protect ipfdb\r\ndisable
enhanced-dos-protect rate-limit\r\n\r\n#\r\n# End of configuration file for
"S200-B".\r\n#\r\nS200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
"\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? yes
expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n"
expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
expect: set expect_out(buffer) "disable enhanced-dos-protect ipfdb\r\n"
disable enhanced-dos-protect ipfdb
expect: continuing expect

expect: does "disable enhanced-dos-protect rate-limit\r\n\r\n#\r\n# End of
configuration file for "S200-B".\r\n#\r\nS200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match
regular expression "\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? yes
expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n\r\n"
expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
expect: set expect_out(buffer) "disable enhanced-dos-protect
rate-limit\r\n\r\n"
disable enhanced-dos-protect rate-limit

expect: continuing expect

expect: does "#\r\n# End of configuration file for
"S200-B".\r\n#\r\nS200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
"\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? yes
expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n"
expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
expect: set expect_out(buffer) "#\r\n"
#
expect: continuing expect

expect: does "# End of configuration file for "S200-B".\r\n#\r\nS200-B:2 # "
(spawn_id exp4) match regular expression "\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? yes
expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n"
expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
expect: set expect_out(buffer) "# End of configuration file for
"S200-B".\r\n"
# End of configuration file for "S200-B".
expect: continuing expect

expect: does "#\r\nS200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
"\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? yes
expect: set expect_out(0,string) "\r\n"
expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
expect: set expect_out(buffer) "#\r\n"
#
expect: continuing expect

expect: does "S200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
"\u0008+"? no
"^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
"^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
"^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
"[\n\r]+"? no
"[^\r\n]*Press <SPACE> to cont[^\r\n]*"? no
"^ *--More--[^\n\r]*"? no
"^<-+ More -+>[^\n\r]*"? no



From heas at shrubbery.net  Mon Nov  2 21:46:07 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:46:07 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Extreme Issue
In-Reply-To: <090801ca5c04$e809c760$b81d5620$@com>
References: <013c01ca58b7$99d8eb70$cd8ac250$@com>
	<20091102212439.GQ24498@shrubbery.net>
	<090801ca5c04$e809c760$b81d5620$@com>
Message-ID: <20091102214606.GR24498@shrubbery.net>

Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 03:39:07PM -0600, Peder:
> expect: does "S200-B:2 # " (spawn_id exp4) match regular expression
> "\u0008+"? no
> "^[^\n\r *]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #"? no
> "^[^\n\r]*.? ?S200-B:\[0-9\]+ #."? no
> "^--More--[\r\n]+"? no
> "[\n\r]+"? no
> "[^\r\n]*Press <SPACE> to cont[^\r\n]*"? no
> "^ *--More--[^\n\r]*"? no
> "^<-+ More -+>[^\n\r]*"? no

your expect is broken.  the 2nd or 3rd regex above should have matched.
Also, it should not hang.  even with this regex failure, it should
eventually timeout.

we've seen it before that timing (target or network speed) affect expect/tcl.

From heas at shrubbery.net  Mon Nov  2 22:52:24 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:52:24 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: After upgrade rancid works, rancid-run does not	work
In-Reply-To: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74918@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC748EB@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<20091028214514.GF27655@shrubbery.net>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC748F8@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74918@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
Message-ID: <20091102225224.GU24498@shrubbery.net>

Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 01:29:43PM -0600, Schmidt, Daniel:
> I believe this appears to be a control_rancid bug with inconsistent
> capitalization.  Possible regression as it seemed to work before. 
> 
> You've got perl that lowercases everything here:
> 
> 205 perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print "$F[0]:$F[1]\n")
> 206     if ($F[2] =~ /^up$/i);}' routers.db > routers.up.new
> 207 if [ ! -f routers.up ] ; then touch routers.up; fi
> 208 diff -U 4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> 
> So, if somebody uses an uppercase character, it will never match here:

thanks for catching that.  i think that grep -i is sufficient...for you
silly caps people :)

> 356 # if a device (-r) was specified, see if that device is in this
> group
> 357 if [ "X$device" != "X" ] ; then
> 358     trap 'rm -fr $TMP $DIR/routers.single;' 1 2 15
> 359     devlistfile="$DIR/routers.single"
> 360     grep "^$device:" routers.up > $devlistfile
> 361     if [ $? -eq 1 ] ; then
> 362         exit;
> 363     fi
> 364 else
> 365     devlistfile="$DIR/routers.up"
> 366 fi
> 
> It exits, conveniently without any error, at 362.  
> 
> I implemented a primitive fix to solve my problem.  
> 
>  51 tolower()
>  52 {
>  53         local char="$*"
>  54 
>  55                 out=$(echo $char | tr [:upper:] [:lower:])
>  56                 local retval=$?
>  57                 echo "$out"
>  58                 unset out
>  59                 unset char
>  60                 return $retval
>  61 }
> 
>  90             device=$(tolower "$1")
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Schmidt,
> Daniel
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:10 AM
> To: john heasley
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Re: After upgrade rancid works, rancid-run does not
> work
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion!  I am on Linux, however, the contents of
> routers.up seem correct.  Is there other troubleshooting I can do?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:45 PM
> To: Schmidt, Daniel
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: [rancid] After upgrade rancid works, rancid-run does not
> work
> 
> Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 02:56:51PM -0600, Schmidt, Daniel:
> > Many apologies if somebody has answered this - Rancid has always
> worked
> > for me before and I'm new to the list.  Any assistance greatly
> > appreciated.  
> > 
> > clogin and rancid work fine after upgrade, given the correct PATH.
> > clogin logs in correctly, rancid correctly creates a router.new file.
> > rancid-run does not work.  The log is empty and tacacs logs show that
> it
> > didn't even try to login.
> > 
> > rancid at che-rancid-001:~/var/logs$ cat group_name.20091028.142620
> > starting: Wed Oct 28 14:26:20 MDT 2009
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ending: Wed Oct 28 14:26:21 MDT 2009
> > rancid at che-rancid-001:~/var/logs$ 
> > 
> > Everything seemed to install to the correct location with the
> following
> > configure.  
> > ./configure --localstatedir=/home/rancid --prefix=/home/rancid
> > 
> > I tried a new rancid.conf including the new CVSROOT commands, but have
> > not have any luck.  Suggestions greatly appreciated! 
> 
> did routers.up get populated properly?  if not, i'm guess is youre on
> linux and configure screwed-up figuring out the options to diff.
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From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Mon Nov  2 23:07:51 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:07:51 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Ignore memory changes?
In-Reply-To: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7491F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7491F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7492F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

Sorry, I see this was brought up before - don't mean to kick a dead
horse!  I could easily remove nvram dirs from rancid, but I thought
there should be more elegant solution.  

95% of my spurious diffs could be eliminated by ignoring the
startup-config & the bytes free.  

Adding a simple "| exc startup-config|bytes free" should work, but you
can't grep on a dir statement for some lousy reason.   But, aren't we
skipping other stuff?  (Apologies, can't speak Perl)

 739         # filter frequently changing files from IOX bootflash
 740         if ($dev =~ /bootflash/) {
 741             next if (/temp_cont\s*$/);
 742             next if (/uptime_cont\s*$/);
 743         }

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Schmidt,
Daniel
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:53 AM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Ignore memory changes?

Is there any way to ignore flash changes?  Sorry if this has been asked
before, I can't seem to find it.  

- !Flash:   475  -rwx        8271   Nov 1 2009 03:47:10 -07:00
config.text
+ !Flash:   473  -rwx        8271   Nov 2 2009 03:45:18 -07:00
config.text

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From heas at shrubbery.net  Tue Nov  3 06:47:38 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:47:38 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Ignore memory changes?
In-Reply-To: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7492F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7491F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7492F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
Message-ID: <20091103064738.GC28427@shrubbery.net>

Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 04:07:51PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> Sorry, I see this was brought up before - don't mean to kick a dead
> horse!  I could easily remove nvram dirs from rancid, but I thought
> there should be more elegant solution.  
> 
> 95% of my spurious diffs could be eliminated by ignoring the
> startup-config & the bytes free.  

the premise is that you want to know if the device is filling or
if someone is writing files there.  to smooth the notices for the
former, we thought that could be rewritten in exponential format
(printf %E)....just havent done anything about it yet.

> Adding a simple "| exc startup-config|bytes free" should work, but you
> can't grep on a dir statement for some lousy reason.   But, aren't we
> skipping other stuff?  (Apologies, can't speak Perl)
> 
>  739         # filter frequently changing files from IOX bootflash
>  740         if ($dev =~ /bootflash/) {
>  741             next if (/temp_cont\s*$/);
>  742             next if (/uptime_cont\s*$/);
>  743         }
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Schmidt,
> Daniel
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:53 AM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Ignore memory changes?
> 
> Is there any way to ignore flash changes?  Sorry if this has been asked
> before, I can't seem to find it.  
> 
> - !Flash:   475  -rwx        8271   Nov 1 2009 03:47:10 -07:00
> config.text
> + !Flash:   473  -rwx        8271   Nov 2 2009 03:45:18 -07:00
> config.text
> 
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From mathiruban at gmail.com  Tue Nov  3 13:44:29 2009
From: mathiruban at gmail.com (Mathiruban Rajagopal)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:14:29 +0530
Subject: [rancid]  Rancid not grab config
Message-ID: <136e115c0911030544g6a4baa82rd59493334b5bed86@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have set up the Rancid in Fedora Linux and working fine for some routers.
The jogin is working from server and I can see the file in the directory *
/usr/local/rancid/var/networking/configs* but not grab the configuration.
In logs message I have this

203.115.1.32 jlogin error: Error: Check your password for 203.115.1.32
203.115.1.32: missed cmd(s): show chassis alarms,show chassis hardware
detail,show system license,show chassis scb,show chassis feb,show chassis
routing-engine,show chassis firmware,show version detail,show chassis feb
detail,show configuration,show system boot-messages,show chassis cfeb,show
chassis clocks,show chassis sfm detail,show chassis ssb,show chassis fpc
detail,show chassis environment,show system core-dumps
203.115.1.32: End of run not found
Pls help me.

Rgds,

Mathy.
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From rwest at zyedge.com  Tue Nov  3 14:41:24 2009
From: rwest at zyedge.com (Ryan West)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:41:24 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid not grab config
In-Reply-To: <136e115c0911030544g6a4baa82rd59493334b5bed86@mail.gmail.com>
References: <136e115c0911030544g6a4baa82rd59493334b5bed86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E21B2BDEF6E714EA0B5BA8D5D0E140124E2A1783A@zy-ex1.zyedge.local>

Hi,

Looks like you have your answer.  Have you verified that you can use jlogin to connect to the device?  'jlogin -c <commands here> <routername>' ?

-ryan

From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Mathiruban Rajagopal
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:44 AM

203.115.1.32 jlogin error: Error: Check your password for 203.115.1.32



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From sreekanth.krishna at gmail.com  Wed Nov  4 12:11:14 2009
From: sreekanth.krishna at gmail.com (Sreekanth K)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:41:14 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Help on Cisco Devices with RO access. End of run not found.
Message-ID: <32c3e1da0911040411i7961d74dvf2842aee03ab8f79@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

I am facing a problem while using RANCID for certain set of Cisco devices.
I have a set of devices to which I have only limited access and do not have
the enable passwords.
I have created new rancid and clogin scripts named cwrancid and cwlogin.
I am not able to run rancid for these devices; I have hashed all the
commands on cwrancid except "show startup-config".
When I use cwlogin to directly attempt on my TestRouter, I am able to
complete successfully.
Logs appended below.

Appreciate help from the fraternity since I have exhausted my skills. :)

Cheers!!!
Sreekanth.
================ Logs from RANCID ================
[rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwrancid -d Testrouter.rou
executing cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou
Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config
Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config
Testrouter.rou: End of run not found
Testrouter.rou: End of run not found
!
[rancid at rancid bin]$
[rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou
testrouter.rou
spawn telnet testrouter.rou
Trying 192.168.2.4...
Connected to testrouter.rou.
Escape character is '^]'.
CCCCC
########################################################################
###                                                                  ###
###              * WARNING * WARNING * WARNING * WARNING *           ###
###             ** FOR AUTHORISED NETWORK PERSONNEL ONLY **          ###
###             ============================== =============          ###


< ---- Truncated Output ------ >
ntp server 192.168.2.240
end
Testrouter >exit
Connection closed by foreign host.
[rancid at rancid bin]$
================ Logs from RANCID ================
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From heas at shrubbery.net  Wed Nov  4 16:16:24 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:16:24 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Help on Cisco Devices with RO access. End of run
	not	found.
In-Reply-To: <32c3e1da0911040411i7961d74dvf2842aee03ab8f79@mail.gmail.com>
References: <32c3e1da0911040411i7961d74dvf2842aee03ab8f79@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091104161624.GA21576@shrubbery.net>

Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 05:41:14PM +0530, Sreekanth K:
> Dear All,
> 
> I am facing a problem while using RANCID for certain set of Cisco devices.
> I have a set of devices to which I have only limited access and do not have
> the enable passwords.
> I have created new rancid and clogin scripts named cwrancid and cwlogin.
> I am not able to run rancid for these devices; I have hashed all the
> commands on cwrancid except "show startup-config".
> When I use cwlogin to directly attempt on my TestRouter, I am able to
> complete successfully.
> Logs appended below.
> 
> Appreciate help from the fraternity since I have exhausted my skills. :)
> 
> Cheers!!!
> Sreekanth.
> ================ Logs from RANCID ================
> [rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwrancid -d Testrouter.rou
> executing cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou
> Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config
> Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config
> Testrouter.rou: End of run not found
> Testrouter.rou: End of run not found
> !
> [rancid at rancid bin]$
> [rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou
> testrouter.rou
> spawn telnet testrouter.rou
> Trying 192.168.2.4...
> Connected to testrouter.rou.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> CCCCC
> ########################################################################
> ###                                                                  ###
> ###              * WARNING * WARNING * WARNING * WARNING *           ###
> ###             ** FOR AUTHORISED NETWORK PERSONNEL ONLY **          ###
> ###             ============================== =============          ###
> 

remove the #s from the banner.  see cloginrc(1).

> < ---- Truncated Output ------ >
> ntp server 192.168.2.240
> end
> Testrouter >exit
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> [rancid at rancid bin]$
> ================ Logs from RANCID ================

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From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Wed Nov  4 18:53:52 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:53:52 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Ignore memory changes?
In-Reply-To: <20091103064738.GC28427@shrubbery.net>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7491F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7492F@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<20091103064738.GC28427@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74958@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

For those interested:

Until such time as there is a better fix, a quick work around is to
ignore those lines in the flash and ignore nvram entirely.  

Change line 707:
/\s+(multiple-fs|nv_hdr|vlan\.dat)$/ && next;
To:
/\s+(config.text|private-config.text|multiple-fs|nv_hdr|vlan\.dat)$/ &&
next;

And comment out nvram lines 1880,1893,1902.  

-----Original Message-----
From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:48 PM
To: Schmidt, Daniel
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: Ignore memory changes?

Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 04:07:51PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> Sorry, I see this was brought up before - don't mean to kick a dead
> horse!  I could easily remove nvram dirs from rancid, but I thought
> there should be more elegant solution.  
> 
> 95% of my spurious diffs could be eliminated by ignoring the
> startup-config & the bytes free.  

the premise is that you want to know if the device is filling or
if someone is writing files there.  to smooth the notices for the
former, we thought that could be rewritten in exponential format
(printf %E)....just havent done anything about it yet.

> Adding a simple "| exc startup-config|bytes free" should work, but you
> can't grep on a dir statement for some lousy reason.   But, aren't we
> skipping other stuff?  (Apologies, can't speak Perl)
> 
>  739         # filter frequently changing files from IOX bootflash
>  740         if ($dev =~ /bootflash/) {
>  741             next if (/temp_cont\s*$/);
>  742             next if (/uptime_cont\s*$/);
>  743         }
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Schmidt,
> Daniel
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 8:53 AM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Ignore memory changes?
> 
> Is there any way to ignore flash changes?  Sorry if this has been
asked
> before, I can't seem to find it.  
> 
> - !Flash:   475  -rwx        8271   Nov 1 2009 03:47:10 -07:00
> config.text
> + !Flash:   473  -rwx        8271   Nov 2 2009 03:45:18 -07:00
> config.text
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
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From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Thu Nov  5 22:16:42 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:16:42 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when no changes
	have been made
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74976@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

What is odd is that this only seems to do this when you rancid-run from
the command line when the previous run was from Cron.  (or visa versa)
Relevant code doesn't seem like much:

182 cut -d: -f1,2 routers.db > routers.all.new

189 perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print "$F[0]:$F[1]\n")
190     if ($F[2] =~ /^up$/i);}' routers.db > routers.up.new

192 diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?

194 if [ $RALL -ne 0 -o $RDOWN -ne 0 -o $RUP -ne 0 ]
195 then
196     (
197         if [ $RUP -ne 0 ] ; then
198             if [ ! -s routers.up ] ; then
199                 echo Routers changed to up:
200                 sed -e 's/^/        /' routers.up.new
201                 echo
202             else
203                 WCUP=`comm -13 routers.up routers.up.new | wc -l | \
204                         sed -e 's/^ *\([^ ]*\)/\1/'`
205                 if [ $WCUP -gt 0 ] ; then
206                     echo Routers changed to up:

Term is set to network in rancid.conf, so I'm stumped as to how RUP or
WCUP is nonzero on this.

From cgauthier at mapscu.com  Fri Nov  6 18:50:10 2009
From: cgauthier at mapscu.com (Chris Gauthier)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:50:10 -0800
Subject: [rancid]  upgrade from 2.3.2-a7-2?
Message-ID: <0A9A5A2BC1C0A94C981AF5FCF2D2F3381460D51C@mshin01.mapscu.com>

So, now that I have installed my new ASA5520, I have the same "coredump"
file issue that had been previously reported by others.  I know the fix
is to upgrade to 2.3.2, but I'm not sure of the best way to do that
since my installation is an ubuntu package installation.

 

If I uninstall the package, then I will lose my configs and repository,
right?

 

How would you handle this?  I think I need to uninstall the 3 rancid
packages and build from source.  I just don't want to lose everything in
the process.

 

Here are the 3 packages (all 2.3.20-a7-2)

rancid-cgi

rancid-core

rancid-util

 

Ideas?

 

Chris Gauthier

Network Administrator

MaPS Credit Union

v: 503.375.2445

f: 503.779.1083

http://www.mapscu.com <http://www.mapscu.com> 

 

 

"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to
return."

-Leonardo da Vinci

 

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From tex at off.org  Sun Nov  8 09:34:05 2009
From: tex at off.org (Austin Schutz)
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:34:05 -0800
Subject: [rancid]  Monitoring rancid poll failures
Message-ID: <4AF6908D.4080308@off.org>


I would like to use an alternative to email monitoring of rancid poll 
failures. It would be nice if there were some way of displaying these 
failures alongside other types of alarms.

I have been considering injecting alarms into netcool, which we have 
locally, but I would like to hear what other people are using.

I have taken a brief glance also at nagios, zenoss, and opennms. But 
none of these appear to offer much flexibility when you get past initial 
stages. I don't want something to go out and do network polling, I just 
want to be able to create my own alarms which the interface should do 
intelligent things with.

Also I don't want them doing snmp/other polling of the network, because 
I already have a system in place for that. I want to give <whatever> 
system alarms, and have it do something reasonable with them.

Also, when these systems (nagios, zenoss, etc.) offer the ability to 
generate an alarm in some custom fashion, it is typically possible to 
set a single alarm when something goes wrong, but not to generate 
multiple alarms at once. I would like to have one alarm for each device 
which rancid can't poll.

In fact, I would like to not only send <whatever> rancid alarms, I would 
also like to use it for catching alarms from other applications I 
babysit/develop.

How are other people managing this?


Austin

From idris.frederick at kdlinc.com  Fri Nov  6 23:00:11 2009
From: idris.frederick at kdlinc.com (Idris Frederick)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:00:11 -0600
Subject: [rancid]  can't access MRV 910
Message-ID: <62E7EC901849FE4DA33320637A9B2BD421E9D1CB59@MAILBOX-01.qcommcorp.ad>

Trying to access MRV 910 through RANCID SERVER SO THAT I CAN AUTOMATE BACKUPS
THE ERROR MESSAGE I GET IS :

lab-910 login: rancid
Password:
Login incorrect

910 login: rancid
Password:
Login incorrect

910 login: rancid
Password:
Login incorrect

910 login: rancid
Password:
Login incorrect

910 login: rancid
Password:
Login incorrect

910 login: rancid
Password:

Login incorrect
Connection closed by foreign host.
spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l rancid 10.0.x.x ( Device)

It times out...  and refuses connection.

I think this problem has a lot to do with the the .clogin file.
But I am unsure...

I have included a copy of that file in this email....


Idris Frederick
Operations Support Engineer
IP Operations
KDL, Inc.
idris.frederick at kdlinc.com<mailto:elijah.keller at norlight.com>
Voice 812.253.2182
Cell    812.202.2450



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From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Mon Nov  9 15:17:39 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:17:39 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: upgrade from 2.3.2-a7-2?
In-Reply-To: <0A9A5A2BC1C0A94C981AF5FCF2D2F3381460D51C@mshin01.mapscu.com>
References: <0A9A5A2BC1C0A94C981AF5FCF2D2F3381460D51C@mshin01.mapscu.com>
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC7499A@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

I use ubuntu, but I installed from source.  When I upgraded, I just
wrote over what I had already.  It worked fine.  Well, besides the bugs
which I've mentioned the past few weeks. 

 

________________________________

From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Chris
Gauthier
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:50 AM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] upgrade from 2.3.2-a7-2?

 

So, now that I have installed my new ASA5520, I have the same "coredump"
file issue that had been previously reported by others.  I know the fix
is to upgrade to 2.3.2, but I'm not sure of the best way to do that
since my installation is an ubuntu package installation.

 

If I uninstall the package, then I will lose my configs and repository,
right?

 

How would you handle this?  I think I need to uninstall the 3 rancid
packages and build from source.  I just don't want to lose everything in
the process.

 

Here are the 3 packages (all 2.3.20-a7-2)

rancid-cgi

rancid-core

rancid-util

 

Ideas?

 

Chris Gauthier

Network Administrator

MaPS Credit Union

v: 503.375.2445

f: 503.779.1083

http://www.mapscu.com

 

 

"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to
return."

-Leonardo da Vinci

 

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From bugs at ale.cx  Mon Nov  9 10:53:32 2009
From: bugs at ale.cx (alex)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:53:32 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Monitoring rancid poll failures
In-Reply-To: <4AF6908D.4080308@off.org>
References: <4AF6908D.4080308@off.org>
Message-ID: <200911091053.33041.bugs@ale.cx>

On Sunday 08 November 2009 09:34:05 Austin Schutz wrote:

> I have taken a brief glance also at nagios, zenoss, and opennms. But
> none of these appear to offer much flexibility when you get past initial
> stages. I don't want something to go out and do network polling, I just
> want to be able to create my own alarms which the interface should do
> intelligent things with.

You might like to have a look at Zabbix. You can create a host with any number 
of checks, which could be SNMP, simple TCP, or external script [amongst 
others]. The external script zabbix uses to check a host could easily be 
RANCID. 

alexd

From rancid at gheek.net  Mon Nov  9 17:11:38 2009
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance Vermilion)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:11:38 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Monitoring rancid poll failures
In-Reply-To: <200911091053.33041.bugs@ale.cx>
References: <4AF6908D.4080308@off.org> <200911091053.33041.bugs@ale.cx>
Message-ID: <8423e7bb0911090911h45ad5fcu3a9960cee5a682b8@mail.gmail.com>

Austin,

I am sure you already know RANCID is going to be an option with OpenNMS's
next stable release. Pretty handy but I think you were looking at a way to
add an API like concept to RANCID so other NMS tools could tie into it.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:53 AM, alex <bugs at ale.cx> wrote:

> On Sunday 08 November 2009 09:34:05 Austin Schutz wrote:
>
> > I have taken a brief glance also at nagios, zenoss, and opennms. But
> > none of these appear to offer much flexibility when you get past initial
> > stages. I don't want something to go out and do network polling, I just
> > want to be able to create my own alarms which the interface should do
> > intelligent things with.
>
> You might like to have a look at Zabbix. You can create a host with any
> number
> of checks, which could be SNMP, simple TCP, or external script [amongst
> others]. The external script zabbix uses to check a host could easily be
> RANCID.
>
> alexd
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From heas at shrubbery.net  Mon Nov  9 17:49:30 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:49:30 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: can't access MRV 910
In-Reply-To: <62E7EC901849FE4DA33320637A9B2BD421E9D1CB59@MAILBOX-01.qcommcorp.ad>
References: <62E7EC901849FE4DA33320637A9B2BD421E9D1CB59@MAILBOX-01.qcommcorp.ad>
Message-ID: <20091109174930.GH13448@shrubbery.net>

Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 05:00:11PM -0600, Idris Frederick:
> Trying to access MRV 910 through RANCID SERVER SO THAT I CAN AUTOMATE BACKUPS
> THE ERROR MESSAGE I GET IS :
> 
> lab-910 login: rancid
> Password:
> Login incorrect
> 
> 910 login: rancid
> Password:
> Login incorrect
> 
> 910 login: rancid
> Password:
> Login incorrect
> 
> 910 login: rancid
> Password:
> Login incorrect
> 
> 910 login: rancid
> Password:
> Login incorrect
> 
> 910 login: rancid
> Password:
> 
> Login incorrect
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l rancid 10.0.x.x ( Device)
> 
> It times out...  and refuses connection.
> 
> I think this problem has a lot to do with the the .clogin file.
> But I am unsure...

probably.  use the debug option to see what it is sending.  mrvlogin -d hostname

From heas at shrubbery.net  Mon Nov  9 22:26:21 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:26:21 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when no	changes
	have been made
In-Reply-To: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74976@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74976@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
Message-ID: <20091109222621.GL18860@shrubbery.net>

Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:16:42PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> What is odd is that this only seems to do this when you rancid-run from
> the command line when the previous run was from Cron.  (or visa versa)
> Relevant code doesn't seem like much:
> 
> 182 cut -d: -f1,2 routers.db > routers.all.new
> 
> 189 perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print "$F[0]:$F[1]\n")
> 190     if ($F[2] =~ /^up$/i);}' routers.db > routers.up.new
> 
> 192 diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?

diff is the typical problem here.  verify that the diff that you get
is one that supports these options expressed in this manner.  everywhere
but linux, diffs accepts -u4.

> 194 if [ $RALL -ne 0 -o $RDOWN -ne 0 -o $RUP -ne 0 ]
> 195 then
> 196     (
> 197         if [ $RUP -ne 0 ] ; then
> 198             if [ ! -s routers.up ] ; then
> 199                 echo Routers changed to up:
> 200                 sed -e 's/^/        /' routers.up.new
> 201                 echo
> 202             else
> 203                 WCUP=`comm -13 routers.up routers.up.new | wc -l | \
> 204                         sed -e 's/^ *\([^ ]*\)/\1/'`
> 205                 if [ $WCUP -gt 0 ] ; then
> 206                     echo Routers changed to up:
> 
> Term is set to network in rancid.conf, so I'm stumped as to how RUP or
> WCUP is nonzero on this.
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss

From peter.klausner at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 16:31:53 2009
From: peter.klausner at gmail.com (Peter Klausner)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:31:53 +0100
Subject: [rancid] Re: Monitoring rancid poll failures
In-Reply-To: <8423e7bb0911090911h45ad5fcu3a9960cee5a682b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AF6908D.4080308@off.org> <200911091053.33041.bugs@ale.cx>
	<8423e7bb0911090911h45ad5fcu3a9960cee5a682b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b231bf00911100831g30d3ccc9y78c8b4cec4204eb5@mail.gmail.com>

In a limited way, you can do that now - from your email configuration.
 Simply set up a pipe as [one of] your mail recipient[s].  A script
then can do whatever magic.  This sample entry in /etc/mail/aliases
creates syslog messages - notice for the normal output, err when
something goes wrong:

rancid-group:       "|/bin/logger -p user.notice  -t rancid.group"

rancid-admin-group: "|/bin/logger -p user.err -t rancid.group"


Peter

From sreekanth.krishna at gmail.com  Tue Nov 10 17:19:48 2009
From: sreekanth.krishna at gmail.com (Sreekanth K)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:49:48 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Help on Cisco Devices with RO access. End of run not
	found.
In-Reply-To: <20091104161624.GA21576@shrubbery.net>
References: <32c3e1da0911040411i7961d74dvf2842aee03ab8f79@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091104161624.GA21576@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <32c3e1da0911100919h7d47c119h70ec10c3096a0b2b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello John and all,

Tried the same... Deleted the login banner altogether... still no luck...
Note: I have used no enable in cloginrc and have hashed away all the
commands and added show startup-config in the cwrancid file which I have
created... No other changes :(

================ Logs from RANCID ================

[rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwrancid -d Testrouter.rou

executing cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou

Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config

Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config

Testrouter.rou: End of run not found

Testrouter.rou: End of run not found

!

[rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou

testrouter.rou

spawn telnet testrouter.rou

Trying 10.157.37.2...

Connected to testrouter.rou.

Escape character is '^]'.



User Access Verification

Username: rancid

Password:



Testrouter>

Testrouter>terminal length 0

Testrouter>show startup-config

Using 6692 out of 29688 bytes

!

! Last configuration change at 10:29:40 GMT Tue Nov 10 2009 by rancid

! NVRAM config last updated at 10:29:44 GMT Tue Nov 10 2009 by rancid

!

version 12.2

< ---- Truncated Output ------ >

ntp server 192.168.2.240

end

Testrouter>exit

Connection closed by foreign host.

[rancid at rancid bin]$
================ Logs from RANCID ================

Some suggestions to help me out ?

Cheers!!
Sreekanth

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:46 PM, john heasley <heas at shrubbery.net> wrote:

> Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 05:41:14PM +0530, Sreekanth K:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I am facing a problem while using RANCID for certain set of Cisco
> devices.
> > I have a set of devices to which I have only limited access and do not
> have
> > the enable passwords.
> > I have created new rancid and clogin scripts named cwrancid and cwlogin.
> > I am not able to run rancid for these devices; I have hashed all the
> > commands on cwrancid except "show startup-config".
> > When I use cwlogin to directly attempt on my TestRouter, I am able to
> > complete successfully.
> > Logs appended below.
> >
> > Appreciate help from the fraternity since I have exhausted my skills. :)
> >
> > Cheers!!!
> > Sreekanth.
> > ================ Logs from RANCID ================
> > [rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwrancid -d Testrouter.rou
> > executing cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou
> > Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config
> > Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config
> > Testrouter.rou: End of run not found
> > Testrouter.rou: End of run not found
> > !
> > [rancid at rancid bin]$
> > [rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config"
> Testrouter.rou
> > testrouter.rou
> > spawn telnet testrouter.rou
> > Trying 192.168.2.4...
> > Connected to testrouter.rou.
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> > CCCCC
> > ########################################################################
> > ###                                                                  ###
> > ###              * WARNING * WARNING * WARNING * WARNING *           ###
> > ###             ** FOR AUTHORISED NETWORK PERSONNEL ONLY **          ###
> > ###             ============================== =============          ###
> >
>
> remove the #s from the banner.  see cloginrc(1).
>
> > < ---- Truncated Output ------ >
> > ntp server 192.168.2.240
> > end
> > Testrouter >exit
> > Connection closed by foreign host.
> > [rancid at rancid bin]$
> > ================ Logs from RANCID ================
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>



-- 
Best Regards
K Sreekanth
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From mksmith at adhost.com  Tue Nov 10 17:35:53 2009
From: mksmith at adhost.com (Michael K. Smith - Adhost)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:35:53 -0800
Subject: [rancid]  No successful runs - SSH AAA enabled devices
Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031607028ADD@ad-exh01.adhost.lan>

Hello Everyone:

Environment:
FreeBSD 6.4
Expect 5.44.1.11
TCL 8.6

Problem:
Any device that is ssh-enabled (version 2) using AAA authentication (so
no secondary enable pass required) is failing.

.cloginrc info (sanitized)
add user        hostname.tld.com    rancid
add password    hostname.tld.com    p\@ssword (note the escape of the @)
add autoenable  hostname.tld.com    1
add method      hostname.tld.com    ssh
add cyphertype  hostname.tld.com    3des

Troubleshooting:
clogin -d hostname.tld.com -> Successful

Log Output:
- Routers (GSR's)
hostname.tld.com: missed cmd(s): show rsp chassis-info,show module,write
term,show running-config
hostname.tld.com: End of run not found
- Switches (mix of 3560's and 4006's)
hostname.tld.com: missed cmd(s): write term,show running-config
hostname.tld.com: End of run not found

I've confirmed via clogin that the commands above, particularly the
write term and sho running are working correctly.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards,

Mike
--
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Adhost Internet LLC mksmith at adhost.com
w: +1 (206) 404-9500 f: +1 (206) 404-9050
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From heas at shrubbery.net  Tue Nov 10 20:29:00 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:29:00 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Help on Cisco Devices with RO access. End of run
	not	found.
In-Reply-To: <32c3e1da0911100919h7d47c119h70ec10c3096a0b2b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <32c3e1da0911040411i7961d74dvf2842aee03ab8f79@mail.gmail.com>
	<20091104161624.GA21576@shrubbery.net>
	<32c3e1da0911100919h7d47c119h70ec10c3096a0b2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091110202900.GP13196@shrubbery.net>

Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:49:48PM +0530, Sreekanth K:
> Hello John and all,
> 
> Tried the same... Deleted the login banner altogether... still no luck...
> Note: I have used no enable in cloginrc and have hashed away all the
> commands and added show startup-config in the cwrancid file which I have
> created... No other changes :(
> 
> ================ Logs from RANCID ================
> 
> [rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwrancid -d Testrouter.rou
> 
> executing cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou
> 
> Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config
> 
> Testrouter.rou: missed cmd(s): show startup-config
> 
> Testrouter.rou: End of run not found
> 
> Testrouter.rou: End of run not found
> 
> !
> 
> [rancid at rancid bin]$ ./cwlogin -t 90 -c"show startup-config" Testrouter.rou
> 
> testrouter.rou
> 
> spawn telnet testrouter.rou
> 
> Trying 10.157.37.2...
> 
> Connected to testrouter.rou.
> 
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 
> 
> 
> User Access Verification
> 
> Username: rancid
> 
> Password:
> 
> 
> 
> Testrouter>
            ^ the rancid script looks for #.  you'll ahve to change it.

From heas at shrubbery.net  Tue Nov 10 20:48:41 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:48:41 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: No successful runs - SSH AAA enabled devices
In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031607028ADD@ad-exh01.adhost.lan>
References: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031607028ADD@ad-exh01.adhost.lan>
Message-ID: <20091110204841.GX13196@shrubbery.net>

Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:35:53AM -0800, Michael K. Smith - Adhost:
> Hello Everyone:
> 
> Environment:
> FreeBSD 6.4
> Expect 5.44.1.11
> TCL 8.6
> 
> Problem:
> Any device that is ssh-enabled (version 2) using AAA authentication (so
> no secondary enable pass required) is failing.
> 
> .cloginrc info (sanitized)
> add user        hostname.tld.com    rancid
> add password    hostname.tld.com    p\@ssword (note the escape of the @)
> add autoenable  hostname.tld.com    1
> add method      hostname.tld.com    ssh
> add cyphertype  hostname.tld.com    3des
> 
> Troubleshooting:
> clogin -d hostname.tld.com -> Successful
> 
> Log Output:
> - Routers (GSR's)
> hostname.tld.com: missed cmd(s): show rsp chassis-info,show module,write
> term,show running-config
> hostname.tld.com: End of run not found
> - Switches (mix of 3560's and 4006's)
> hostname.tld.com: missed cmd(s): write term,show running-config
> hostname.tld.com: End of run not found
> 
> I've confirmed via clogin that the commands above, particularly the
> write term and sho running are working correctly.

try all the commands; look in the rancid script for the list.
clogin -c 'cmd1;cmd2;...' and verify that this works or helps identify
the problem.

freebsd's expect port seems to have recurring problems.  i know this combo
works ATM:
expect-5.43.0_3     A sophisticated scripter based on tcl/tk
tcl-8.3.5_8         Tool Command Language
FreeBSD 8.0-RC1

From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Tue Nov 10 20:57:17 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:57:17 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when nochanges
	have been made
In-Reply-To: <20091109222621.GL18860@shrubbery.net>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74976@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<20091109222621.GL18860@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC749BE@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

On ubuntu, it should be diff -U 4, which it is.  (lines below
accidentally from old control_rancid)

< diff -U 4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
---
> diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?

rancid at che-rancid-001:~/var/Telco1$ diff -u -4 
diff: `-4' option is obsolete; use `-U 4'
diff: Try `diff --help' for more information.

I can't seem to track this one down.   

At the command line:
sed -e '/^#/d' -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ *$//' -e 's/ *: */:/g' router.db |
sort -u > routers.db
perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print $_) if ($F[2] !~ /^up$/i);}'
routers.db

Gives me just one device:
FIX_DIFF_BUG:cisco:down

But the old routers.up has every device with the exception of
FIX_DIFF_BUG.  Hence, diff spits out a bunch of erroneous garbage about
stuff going up and down.  So, the question is, as my routers.all is the
former routers.all:

Why do we get a different routers.all.new depending when called from
command line as opposed to when it is called as a cron job?  Is my logic
flawed?

302 mv -f routers.all.new routers.all

-----Original Message-----
From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:26 PM
To: Schmidt, Daniel
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when
nochanges have been made

Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:16:42PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> What is odd is that this only seems to do this when you rancid-run
from
> the command line when the previous run was from Cron.  (or visa versa)
> Relevant code doesn't seem like much:
> 
> 182 cut -d: -f1,2 routers.db > routers.all.new
> 
> 189 perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print "$F[0]:$F[1]\n")
> 190     if ($F[2] =~ /^up$/i);}' routers.db > routers.up.new
> 
> 192 diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?

diff is the typical problem here.  verify that the diff that you get
is one that supports these options expressed in this manner.  everywhere
but linux, diffs accepts -u4.

> 194 if [ $RALL -ne 0 -o $RDOWN -ne 0 -o $RUP -ne 0 ]
> 195 then
> 196     (
> 197         if [ $RUP -ne 0 ] ; then
> 198             if [ ! -s routers.up ] ; then
> 199                 echo Routers changed to up:
> 200                 sed -e 's/^/        /' routers.up.new
> 201                 echo
> 202             else
> 203                 WCUP=`comm -13 routers.up routers.up.new | wc -l |
\
> 204                         sed -e 's/^ *\([^ ]*\)/\1/'`
> 205                 if [ $WCUP -gt 0 ] ; then
> 206                     echo Routers changed to up:
> 
> Term is set to network in rancid.conf, so I'm stumped as to how RUP or
> WCUP is nonzero on this.
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss

From mksmith at adhost.com  Tue Nov 10 21:10:23 2009
From: mksmith at adhost.com (Michael K. Smith - Adhost)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:10:23 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: No successful runs - SSH AAA enabled devices
In-Reply-To: <20091110204841.GX13196@shrubbery.net>
References: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031607028ADD@ad-exh01.adhost.lan>
	<20091110204841.GX13196@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031607028B7E@ad-exh01.adhost.lan>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:49 PM
> To: Michael K. Smith - Adhost
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: [rancid] No successful runs - SSH AAA enabled devices
> 
> Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:35:53AM -0800, Michael K. Smith - Adhost:
> > Hello Everyone:
> >
> > Environment:
> > FreeBSD 6.4
> > Expect 5.44.1.11
> > TCL 8.6
> >
> > Problem:
> > Any device that is ssh-enabled (version 2) using AAA authentication
> (so
> > no secondary enable pass required) is failing.
> >
> > .cloginrc info (sanitized)
> > add user        hostname.tld.com    rancid
> > add password    hostname.tld.com    p\@ssword (note the escape of
the
> @)
> > add autoenable  hostname.tld.com    1
> > add method      hostname.tld.com    ssh
> > add cyphertype  hostname.tld.com    3des
> >
> > Troubleshooting:
> > clogin -d hostname.tld.com -> Successful
> >
> > Log Output:
> > - Routers (GSR's)
> > hostname.tld.com: missed cmd(s): show rsp chassis-info,show
> module,write
> > term,show running-config
> > hostname.tld.com: End of run not found
> > - Switches (mix of 3560's and 4006's)
> > hostname.tld.com: missed cmd(s): write term,show running-config
> > hostname.tld.com: End of run not found
> >
> > I've confirmed via clogin that the commands above, particularly the
> > write term and sho running are working correctly.
> 
> try all the commands; look in the rancid script for the list.
> clogin -c 'cmd1;cmd2;...' and verify that this works or helps identify
> the problem.
> 
> freebsd's expect port seems to have recurring problems.  i know this
> combo
> works ATM:
> expect-5.43.0_3     A sophisticated scripter based on tcl/tk
> tcl-8.3.5_8         Tool Command Language
> FreeBSD 8.0-RC1

Ouch.  :-)  I reverted to the Expect and TCL versions above and now I
get the output below.  BTW, I confirmed that the commands listed are
available on the device.  Obviously, there are some commands that aren't
going to work "sho rsp" as an example.  Do these need to be commented
out in the rancid script?

Regards,

Mike

starting: Tue Nov 10 13:00:53 PST 2009



Trying to get all of the configs.
write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
    while executing
"send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
    invoked from within
"expect -nobrace -re+ { exp_continue } -re {^[^
^M *]*3550_f-3-a([^#>\r\n]+)?[#>](\([^)\r\n]+\))?} { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                } -re {^..."
    invoked from within
"expect {
            -re "\b+"                           { exp_continue }
            -re "^\[^\n\r *]*$reprompt"         { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                }
            -re "^\[^\n\r]*$reprom..."
    (procedure "run_commands" line 39)
    invoked from within
"run_commands $prompt $command"
    ("foreach" body line 149)
    invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
    set router [string tolower $router]
    # attempt at platform switching.
    set platform ""
    send_user ..."
    (file "/home/rancid/bin/clogin" line 723)
3550f-3-a.adhost.com: missed cmd(s): write term,show running-config
3550f-3-a.adhost.com: End of run not found
!
write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
    while executing
"send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
    invoked from within
"expect -nobrace -re+ { exp_continue } -re {^[^
^M *]*sea-bsw05([^#>\r\n]+)?[#>](\([^)\r\n]+\))?} { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                } -re {^[..."
    invoked from within
"expect {
            -re "\b+"                           { exp_continue }
            -re "^\[^\n\r *]*$reprompt"         { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                }
            -re "^\[^\n\r]*$reprom..."
    (procedure "run_commands" line 39)
    invoked from within
"run_commands $prompt $command"
    ("foreach" body line 149)
    invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
    set router [string tolower $router]
    # attempt at platform switching.
    set platform ""
    send_user ..."
    (file "/home/rancid/bin/clogin" line 723)
sea-bsw05.adhost.com: missed cmd(s): write term,show running-config
sea-bsw05.adhost.com: End of run not found
!
=====================================
Getting missed routers: round 1.
write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
    while executing
"send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
    invoked from within
"expect -nobrace -re+ { exp_continue } -re {^[^
^M *]*sea-bsw05([^#>\r\n]+)?[#>](\([^)\r\n]+\))?} { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                } -re {^[..."
    invoked from within
"expect {
            -re "\b+"                           { exp_continue }
            -re "^\[^\n\r *]*$reprompt"         { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                }
            -re "^\[^\n\r]*$reprom..."
    (procedure "run_commands" line 39)
    invoked from within
"run_commands $prompt $command"
    ("foreach" body line 149)
    invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
    set router [string tolower $router]
    # attempt at platform switching.
    set platform ""
    send_user ..."
    (file "/home/rancid/bin/clogin" line 723)
sea-bsw05.adhost.com: missed cmd(s): write term,show running-config
sea-bsw05.adhost.com: End of run not found
!
write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
    while executing
"send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
    invoked from within
"expect -nobrace -re+ { exp_continue } -re {^[^
^M *]*3550_f-3-a([^#>\r\n]+)?[#>](\([^)\r\n]+\))?} { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                } -re {^..."
    invoked from within
"expect {
            -re "\b+"                           { exp_continue }
            -re "^\[^\n\r *]*$reprompt"         { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                }
            -re "^\[^\n\r]*$reprom..."
    (procedure "run_commands" line 39)
    invoked from within
"run_commands $prompt $command"
    ("foreach" body line 149)
    invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
    set router [string tolower $router]
    # attempt at platform switching.
    set platform ""
    send_user ..."
    (file "/home/rancid/bin/clogin" line 723)
3550f-3-a.adhost.com: missed cmd(s): write term,show running-config
3550f-3-a.adhost.com: End of run not found
!

cvs diff: Diffing .
cvs diff: Diffing configs
cvs commit: Examining .
cvs commit: Examining configs

ending: Tue Nov 10 13:03:17 PST 2009
(END)

From heas at shrubbery.net  Tue Nov 10 21:47:49 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:47:49 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when	nochanges
	have been made
In-Reply-To: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC749BE@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74976@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<20091109222621.GL18860@shrubbery.net>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC749BE@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
Message-ID: <20091110214749.GF13196@shrubbery.net>

Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:57:17PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> On ubuntu, it should be diff -U 4, which it is.  (lines below
> accidentally from old control_rancid)
> 
> < diff -U 4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> ---
> > diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> 
> rancid at che-rancid-001:~/var/Telco1$ diff -u -4 
> diff: `-4' option is obsolete; use `-U 4'
> diff: Try `diff --help' for more information.
> 
> I can't seem to track this one down.   
> 
> At the command line:
> sed -e '/^#/d' -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ *$//' -e 's/ *: */:/g' router.db |
> sort -u > routers.db
> perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print $_) if ($F[2] !~ /^up$/i);}'
> routers.db
> 
> Gives me just one device:
> FIX_DIFF_BUG:cisco:down
> 
> But the old routers.up has every device with the exception of
> FIX_DIFF_BUG.
which it should, if no others are marked not 'up'

>  Hence, diff spits out a bunch of erroneous garbage about
> stuff going up and down.

what?

>  So, the question is, as my routers.all is the
> former routers.all:

i presume this meant "is the same as".

> Why do we get a different routers.all.new depending when called from
> command line as opposed to when it is called as a cron job?  Is my logic
> flawed?

what exit code is diff returning in each case?  are you getting the same
diff executable?  is someone add an environment variable to sort or diff
thats affecting the output and you happen to have that environment
variable set for some completely different reason...or they changed the
manner in which either of those commands work and you now have to set an
environment variable to get the normal behavior?

> 302 mv -f routers.all.new routers.all
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net] 
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:26 PM
> To: Schmidt, Daniel
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when
> nochanges have been made
> 
> Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:16:42PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> > What is odd is that this only seems to do this when you rancid-run
> from
> > the command line when the previous run was from Cron.  (or visa versa)
> > Relevant code doesn't seem like much:
> > 
> > 182 cut -d: -f1,2 routers.db > routers.all.new
> > 
> > 189 perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print "$F[0]:$F[1]\n")
> > 190     if ($F[2] =~ /^up$/i);}' routers.db > routers.up.new
> > 
> > 192 diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> 
> diff is the typical problem here.  verify that the diff that you get
> is one that supports these options expressed in this manner.  everywhere
> but linux, diffs accepts -u4.
> 
> > 194 if [ $RALL -ne 0 -o $RDOWN -ne 0 -o $RUP -ne 0 ]
> > 195 then
> > 196     (
> > 197         if [ $RUP -ne 0 ] ; then
> > 198             if [ ! -s routers.up ] ; then
> > 199                 echo Routers changed to up:
> > 200                 sed -e 's/^/        /' routers.up.new
> > 201                 echo
> > 202             else
> > 203                 WCUP=`comm -13 routers.up routers.up.new | wc -l |
> \
> > 204                         sed -e 's/^ *\([^ ]*\)/\1/'`
> > 205                 if [ $WCUP -gt 0 ] ; then
> > 206                     echo Routers changed to up:
> > 
> > Term is set to network in rancid.conf, so I'm stumped as to how RUP or
> > WCUP is nonzero on this.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss

From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Tue Nov 10 22:02:18 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:02:18 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db whennochanges have
	been made
In-Reply-To: <20091110214749.GF13196@shrubbery.net>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74976@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<20091109222621.GL18860@shrubbery.net>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC749BE@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<20091110214749.GF13196@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC749C1@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

Apologies, let's try that again.  

The routers.up.new and the routers.up are the ones that strangely differ
depending on whether rancid-run was called via cron, or command line.  

The problem does not appear to be with diff.  Diff works fine, it
accurately reports there is a difference between routers.up &
routers.up.new.  Running said command lines I get just one line:

$ sed -e '/^#/d' -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ *$//' -e 's/ *: */:/g' router.db |
sort -u > routers.db
$ perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print $_) if ($F[2] !~
/^up$/i);}' routers.db
FIX_DIFF_BUG:cisco:down
$

However, my routers.up contains everything but FIX_DIFF_BUG for some odd
reason.  Diff then accurately reports the files differ greatly.  

diff -U 4 routers.up routers.up.new


-----Original Message-----
From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Schmidt, Daniel
Cc: john heasley; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db
whennochanges have been made

Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:57:17PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> On ubuntu, it should be diff -U 4, which it is.  (lines below
> accidentally from old control_rancid)
> 
> < diff -U 4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> ---
> > diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> 
> rancid at che-rancid-001:~/var/Telco1$ diff -u -4 
> diff: `-4' option is obsolete; use `-U 4'
> diff: Try `diff --help' for more information.
> 
> I can't seem to track this one down.   
> 
> At the command line:
> sed -e '/^#/d' -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ *$//' -e 's/ *: */:/g' router.db |
> sort -u > routers.db
> perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print $_) if ($F[2] !~
/^up$/i);}'
> routers.db
> 
> Gives me just one device:
> FIX_DIFF_BUG:cisco:down
> 
> But the old routers.up has every device with the exception of
> FIX_DIFF_BUG.
which it should, if no others are marked not 'up'

>  Hence, diff spits out a bunch of erroneous garbage about
> stuff going up and down.

what?

>  So, the question is, as my routers.all is the
> former routers.all:

i presume this meant "is the same as".

> Why do we get a different routers.all.new depending when called from
> command line as opposed to when it is called as a cron job?  Is my
logic
> flawed?

what exit code is diff returning in each case?  are you getting the same
diff executable?  is someone add an environment variable to sort or diff
thats affecting the output and you happen to have that environment
variable set for some completely different reason...or they changed the
manner in which either of those commands work and you now have to set an
environment variable to get the normal behavior?

> 302 mv -f routers.all.new routers.all
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net] 
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:26 PM
> To: Schmidt, Daniel
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when
> nochanges have been made
> 
> Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:16:42PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> > What is odd is that this only seems to do this when you rancid-run
> from
> > the command line when the previous run was from Cron.  (or visa
versa)
> > Relevant code doesn't seem like much:
> > 
> > 182 cut -d: -f1,2 routers.db > routers.all.new
> > 
> > 189 perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print "$F[0]:$F[1]\n")
> > 190     if ($F[2] =~ /^up$/i);}' routers.db > routers.up.new
> > 
> > 192 diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> 
> diff is the typical problem here.  verify that the diff that you get
> is one that supports these options expressed in this manner.
everywhere
> but linux, diffs accepts -u4.
> 
> > 194 if [ $RALL -ne 0 -o $RDOWN -ne 0 -o $RUP -ne 0 ]
> > 195 then
> > 196     (
> > 197         if [ $RUP -ne 0 ] ; then
> > 198             if [ ! -s routers.up ] ; then
> > 199                 echo Routers changed to up:
> > 200                 sed -e 's/^/        /' routers.up.new
> > 201                 echo
> > 202             else
> > 203                 WCUP=`comm -13 routers.up routers.up.new | wc -l
|
> \
> > 204                         sed -e 's/^ *\([^ ]*\)/\1/'`
> > 205                 if [ $WCUP -gt 0 ] ; then
> > 206                     echo Routers changed to up:
> > 
> > Term is set to network in rancid.conf, so I'm stumped as to how RUP
or
> > WCUP is nonzero on this.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss

From justin at justinshore.com  Wed Nov 11 06:37:58 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:37:58 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Bouncing a connection off an accessible front-end device
 to something behind it
Message-ID: <4AFA5BC6.1050301@justinshore.com>

I'm pretty sure I've read at some point in the past that RANCID can do 
this but my Google-fu is failing me tonight.  I need to be able to 
relay/bounce a connection through a publicly-accessible device to a 
device that's behind it.  The scenario is that the user's managed CE 
router is accessible to the our NOC via SSH but the managed switches and 
managed APs behind it are not.  I need to be able to SSH into the router 
and then establish a second connection from that device onto a device 
behind it (the secondary connection is telnet since that's all the 
Adtran CLI permits).

Like I said I'm pretty sure I read about that being a possibility with 
RANCID before.  I just can't come up with a search string to find what 
I'm looking for.  Can anyone give me an idea what I need to search for 
so I can do some reading up on the solution?  I could do something with 
PAT too I suppose and specify the public ports and restrict them with 
ACLs.  Personally I'd rather just have one publicly-accessible host on 
the Internet per site.

Thanks
  Justin


From rwest at zyedge.com  Wed Nov 11 13:21:08 2009
From: rwest at zyedge.com (Ryan West)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:21:08 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: Bouncing a connection off an accessible front-end
 device to something behind it
In-Reply-To: <4AFA5BC6.1050301@justinshore.com>
References: <4AFA5BC6.1050301@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <6E21B2BDEF6E714EA0B5BA8D5D0E140124E421E87D@zy-ex1.zyedge.local>

Hey Justin,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-
> bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Justin Shore
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:38 AM
> 
> Like I said I'm pretty sure I read about that being a possibility with
> RANCID before.  I just can't come up with a search string to find what
> I'm looking for.  Can anyone give me an idea what I need to search for
> so I can do some reading up on the solution?  I could do something with
> PAT too I suppose and specify the public ports and restrict them with
> ACLs.  Personally I'd rather just have one publicly-accessible host on
> the Internet per site.
> 
> Thanks
>   Justin

You're looking for the usercmd patch.  http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-May/001490.html  

Thanks,

-ryan

From Nick.Hollingsworth at alphawest.com.au  Thu Nov 12 06:21:19 2009
From: Nick.Hollingsworth at alphawest.com.au (Nick Hollingsworth)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:21:19 +1100
Subject: [rancid]  All routers showing as down
Message-ID: <F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA54F79A@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>

Hi Rancid subscribers,

Rancid has been doing a great job keeping track of configs & diffs, thanks very much.

I started having problems with it a couple of weeks ago after an admin updated routers.db (I think this is all they did). I rang the admin and confirmed they did it by:

 * logging into the Rancid linux host as root
 * scp'd router.db off
 * modified it
 * scp'd it back on (as root)

Now all the routers end up as down after every rancid run (routers.all & routers.down are full, routers.up is empty, no configs are taken, no diffs given).

I noticed that routers.db had owner root, group root. I presumed this was due to the admin scp'ing the routers.db file back to the system after modifying it so I chowned it back to rancid:netadm.

Other than that I can't see anything wrong .... bin/clogin works fine on a few of the devices ......  I run bin/rancid-run and it finishes instantly leaving an empty log file:

	starting: Thu Nov 12 16:26:22 WST 2009




	ending: Thu Nov 12 16:26:23 WST 2009

I can see router.db in cvs status and if I modify router.db cvs picks it up.

Any ideas what might be going wrong?

Regards,
Nick


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From heas at shrubbery.net  Thu Nov 12 08:33:41 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:33:41 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
In-Reply-To: <F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA54F79A@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>
References: <F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA54F79A@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>
Message-ID: <20091112083341.GA4837@shrubbery.net>

Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:21:19PM +1100, Nick Hollingsworth:
> Hi Rancid subscribers,
> 
> Rancid has been doing a great job keeping track of configs & diffs, thanks very much.
> 
> I started having problems with it a couple of weeks ago after an admin updated routers.db (I think this is all they did). I rang the admin and confirmed they did it by:
> 
>  * logging into the Rancid linux host as root
>  * scp'd router.db off
>  * modified it
>  * scp'd it back on (as root)

dollars to donuts; they edited it on a winblows host and it now has winblows
line terminators.

> Now all the routers end up as down after every rancid run (routers.all & routers.down are full, routers.up is empty, no configs are taken, no diffs given).
> 
> I noticed that routers.db had owner root, group root. I presumed this was due to the admin scp'ing the routers.db file back to the system after modifying it so I chowned it back to rancid:netadm.
> 
> Other than that I can't see anything wrong .... bin/clogin works fine on a few of the devices ......  I run bin/rancid-run and it finishes instantly leaving an empty log file:
> 
> 	starting: Thu Nov 12 16:26:22 WST 2009
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	ending: Thu Nov 12 16:26:23 WST 2009
> 
> I can see router.db in cvs status and if I modify router.db cvs picks it up.
> 
> Any ideas what might be going wrong?
> 
> Regards,
> Nick
> 
> 
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From rancid at ale.cx  Thu Nov 12 09:25:13 2009
From: rancid at ale.cx (alex dekker)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:25:13 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
In-Reply-To: <20091112083341.GA4837@shrubbery.net>
References: <F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA54F79A@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>
	<20091112083341.GA4837@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <200911120925.13209.rancid@ale.cx>

On Thursday 12 November 2009 08:33:41 john heasley wrote:
> Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:21:19PM +1100, Nick Hollingsworth:

> >  * logging into the Rancid linux host as root
> >  * scp'd router.db off
> >  * modified it
> >  * scp'd it back on (as root)
> 
> dollars to donuts; they edited it on a winblows host and it now has
>  winblows line terminators.

If you open it in Vim, it will tell you what type of file it is on the status 
line at the bottom. Also, check the permissions/ownership of the file.

alexd

From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Thu Nov 12 22:16:18 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:16:18 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db whennochanges have
	been made
In-Reply-To: <20091110214749.GF13196@shrubbery.net>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74976@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<20091109222621.GL18860@shrubbery.net>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC749BE@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<20091110214749.GF13196@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC749E7@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

For those experiencing this, it turned out to be a locale problem now
addressed in the FAQ.  However, right or wrong, I choose to fix it as
such on line 197 of control_rancid:

-	sort -u > routers.db
+	tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' | sort -u -d > routers.db

Which change will prompt one last change after which it no longer sends
spurious up/down messages. 

-----Original Message-----
From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Schmidt, Daniel
Cc: john heasley; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db
whennochanges have been made

Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:57:17PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> On ubuntu, it should be diff -U 4, which it is.  (lines below
> accidentally from old control_rancid)
> 
> < diff -U 4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> ---
> > diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> 
> rancid at che-rancid-001:~/var/Telco1$ diff -u -4 
> diff: `-4' option is obsolete; use `-U 4'
> diff: Try `diff --help' for more information.
> 
> I can't seem to track this one down.   
> 
> At the command line:
> sed -e '/^#/d' -e 's/^ *//' -e 's/ *$//' -e 's/ *: */:/g' router.db |
> sort -u > routers.db
> perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print $_) if ($F[2] !~
/^up$/i);}'
> routers.db
> 
> Gives me just one device:
> FIX_DIFF_BUG:cisco:down
> 
> But the old routers.up has every device with the exception of
> FIX_DIFF_BUG.
which it should, if no others are marked not 'up'

>  Hence, diff spits out a bunch of erroneous garbage about
> stuff going up and down.

what?

>  So, the question is, as my routers.all is the
> former routers.all:

i presume this meant "is the same as".

> Why do we get a different routers.all.new depending when called from
> command line as opposed to when it is called as a cron job?  Is my
logic
> flawed?

what exit code is diff returning in each case?  are you getting the same
diff executable?  is someone add an environment variable to sort or diff
thats affecting the output and you happen to have that environment
variable set for some completely different reason...or they changed the
manner in which either of those commands work and you now have to set an
environment variable to get the normal behavior?

> 302 mv -f routers.all.new routers.all
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john heasley [mailto:heas at shrubbery.net] 
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:26 PM
> To: Schmidt, Daniel
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: Rancid Reports Changes in router.db when
> nochanges have been made
> 
> Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:16:42PM -0700, Schmidt, Daniel:
> > What is odd is that this only seems to do this when you rancid-run
> from
> > the command line when the previous run was from Cron.  (or visa
versa)
> > Relevant code doesn't seem like much:
> > 
> > 182 cut -d: -f1,2 routers.db > routers.all.new
> > 
> > 189 perl -F: -ane '{($F[0] =~ tr at A-Z@a-z@,print "$F[0]:$F[1]\n")
> > 190     if ($F[2] =~ /^up$/i);}' routers.db > routers.up.new
> > 
> > 192 diff -u -4 routers.up routers.up.new > /dev/null 2>&1; RUP=$?
> 
> diff is the typical problem here.  verify that the diff that you get
> is one that supports these options expressed in this manner.
everywhere
> but linux, diffs accepts -u4.
> 
> > 194 if [ $RALL -ne 0 -o $RDOWN -ne 0 -o $RUP -ne 0 ]
> > 195 then
> > 196     (
> > 197         if [ $RUP -ne 0 ] ; then
> > 198             if [ ! -s routers.up ] ; then
> > 199                 echo Routers changed to up:
> > 200                 sed -e 's/^/        /' routers.up.new
> > 201                 echo
> > 202             else
> > 203                 WCUP=`comm -13 routers.up routers.up.new | wc -l
|
> \
> > 204                         sed -e 's/^ *\([^ ]*\)/\1/'`
> > 205                 if [ $WCUP -gt 0 ] ; then
> > 206                     echo Routers changed to up:
> > 
> > Term is set to network in rancid.conf, so I'm stumped as to how RUP
or
> > WCUP is nonzero on this.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss

From Nick.Hollingsworth at alphawest.com.au  Fri Nov 13 03:59:55 2009
From: Nick.Hollingsworth at alphawest.com.au (Nick Hollingsworth)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:59:55 +1100
Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
In-Reply-To: <200911120925.13209.rancid@ale.cx>
Message-ID: <F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA5B5DBE@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-
> bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of alex dekker
> Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:25
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
> 
> On Thursday 12 November 2009 08:33:41 john heasley wrote:
> > Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:21:19PM +1100, Nick Hollingsworth:
> 
> > >  * logging into the Rancid linux host as root
> > >  * scp'd router.db off
> > >  * modified it
> > >  * scp'd it back on (as root)
> >
> > dollars to donuts; they edited it on a winblows host and it now has
> >  winblows line terminators.
> 
> If you open it in Vim, it will tell you what type of file it is on the status
> line at the bottom. Also, check the permissions/ownership of the file.
> 
> alexd

You nailed it Alex and John - file was in DOS format. Solved it with:

	:set ff=unix 

Now I need to figure out a way for the admins to modify the file without changing the format.  I did some tests - rancid doesn't seem to mind if root owns router.db or that router.db group is root.

So I just need to figure out the optimal way for the admins to edit the file irrelevant of what user they are.

I've also tested the various file formats outputted by Windows editors when opened on a Red Hat machine:

   * notepad, default save, WinSCP upload - unix
   * notepad, default save, opened from linux VM - DOS
   * wordpad, any save, WinSCP upload - DOS

I'm loath to make the admins SSH to the Red Hat box & use Vi or Nano....notepad & WinSCP it is.

Thanks for your help Alex & John.

Regards,
Nick


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From david at infotrek.co.uk  Fri Nov 13 07:45:57 2009
From: david at infotrek.co.uk (David Croft)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:45:57 +0100
Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
In-Reply-To: <F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA5B5DBE@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>
References: <200911120925.13209.rancid@ale.cx>
	<F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA5B5DBE@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>
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In WinSCP, when copying the file in either direction, just select
Transfer Settings -> Text.

You could also make this happen automatically by going to Options ->
Preferences -> Transfer -> Presets -> Text -> Edit -> "Automatically
select this preset when", and enter your server hostname and directory
there.

Or by Options -> Preferences -> Transfer -> Transfer mode -> Automatic
and add "; router.db" to that list.

David


2009/11/13 Nick Hollingsworth <Nick.Hollingsworth at alphawest.com.au>:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-
>> bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of alex dekker
>> Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:25
>> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>> Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
>>
>> On Thursday 12 November 2009 08:33:41 john heasley wrote:
>> > Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:21:19PM +1100, Nick Hollingsworth:
>>
>> > > ?* logging into the Rancid linux host as root
>> > > ?* scp'd router.db off
>> > > ?* modified it
>> > > ?* scp'd it back on (as root)
>> >
>> > dollars to donuts; they edited it on a winblows host and it now has
>> > ?winblows line terminators.
>>
>> If you open it in Vim, it will tell you what type of file it is on the status
>> line at the bottom. Also, check the permissions/ownership of the file.
>>
>> alexd
>
> You nailed it Alex and John - file was in DOS format. Solved it with:
>
> ? ? ? ?:set ff=unix
>
> Now I need to figure out a way for the admins to modify the file without changing the format. ?I did some tests - rancid doesn't seem to mind if root owns router.db or that router.db group is root.
>
> So I just need to figure out the optimal way for the admins to edit the file irrelevant of what user they are.
>
> I've also tested the various file formats outputted by Windows editors when opened on a Red Hat machine:
>
> ? * notepad, default save, WinSCP upload - unix
> ? * notepad, default save, opened from linux VM - DOS
> ? * wordpad, any save, WinSCP upload - DOS
>
> I'm loath to make the admins SSH to the Red Hat box & use Vi or Nano....notepad & WinSCP it is.
>
> Thanks for your help Alex & John.
>
> Regards,
> Nick
>
>
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From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Nov 13 08:58:21 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:58:21 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
In-Reply-To: <F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA5B5DBE@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>
References: <200911120925.13209.rancid@ale.cx>
	<F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA5B5DBE@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>
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Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 02:59:55PM +1100, Nick Hollingsworth:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-
> > bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of alex dekker
> > Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:25
> > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
> > 
> > On Thursday 12 November 2009 08:33:41 john heasley wrote:
> > > Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:21:19PM +1100, Nick Hollingsworth:
> > 
> > > >  * logging into the Rancid linux host as root
> > > >  * scp'd router.db off
> > > >  * modified it
> > > >  * scp'd it back on (as root)
> > >
> > > dollars to donuts; they edited it on a winblows host and it now has
> > >  winblows line terminators.
> > 
> > If you open it in Vim, it will tell you what type of file it is on the status
> > line at the bottom. Also, check the permissions/ownership of the file.
> > 
> > alexd
> 
> You nailed it Alex and John - file was in DOS format. Solved it with:
> 
> 	:set ff=unix 
> 
> Now I need to figure out a way for the admins to modify the file without changing the format.  I did some tests - rancid doesn't seem to mind if root owns router.db or that router.db group is root.

end the lines w/ :

> So I just need to figure out the optimal way for the admins to edit the file irrelevant of what user they are.
> 
> I've also tested the various file formats outputted by Windows editors when opened on a Red Hat machine:
> 
>    * notepad, default save, WinSCP upload - unix
>    * notepad, default save, opened from linux VM - DOS
>    * wordpad, any save, WinSCP upload - DOS
> 
> I'm loath to make the admins SSH to the Red Hat box & use Vi or Nano....notepad & WinSCP it is.
> 
> Thanks for your help Alex & John.
> 
> Regards,
> Nick
> 
> 
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From Jayant.Jape at tikona.in  Fri Nov 13 11:39:36 2009
From: Jayant.Jape at tikona.in (Jayant Jape)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:09:36 +0530
Subject: [rancid]  cvsweb installation for rancid
Message-ID: <A9D037909EC80548823D41C41DFF441D31C84FF76B@EXCHMAILSERVER.tikona.in>

Hi,
Anyone has correct steps to install cvsweb-rancid for rhel5.
I also tired finding the packages through yum and googling but isn't getting installed .

Please help...!

Thanks,
Jayant


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From jmadrid2 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 13 15:32:00 2009
From: jmadrid2 at gmail.com (Jose Madrid)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:32:00 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: cvsweb installation for rancid
In-Reply-To: <A9D037909EC80548823D41C41DFF441D31C84FF76B@EXCHMAILSERVER.tikona.in>
References: <A9D037909EC80548823D41C41DFF441D31C84FF76B@EXCHMAILSERVER.tikona.in>
Message-ID: <867d5e9c0911130732t53bcdda5s73a1a847a847d2dd@mail.gmail.com>

Jayant,

This site has a decent walk-through.  Scroll towards the bottom and you will
see the CVSWEB section.  I have it installed in my environment and it works
great.

2009/11/13 Jayant Jape <Jayant.Jape at tikona.in>

>  Hi,
>
> Anyone has correct steps to install cvsweb-rancid for rhel5.
>
> I also tired finding the packages through yum and googling but isn?t
> getting installed .
>
>
>
> Please help?!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jayant
>
>
>
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From snaiperb at gmail.com  Sun Nov 15 10:25:20 2009
From: snaiperb at gmail.com (Snaiper)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:25:20 +0200
Subject: [rancid]  Need help with backup nortel 5520 configuration
Message-ID: <5a6225190911150225k381f33e7w2b935b8b4368943f@mail.gmail.com>

*Hi,
i have switch nortel 5520
when I try to telnet my switch it shows an UI (need Press Ctrl+Y)
Is there any support with blogin to Nortel siwtches with UI?
current i found options backup switch through snmp to tftp server

example:

backup text mode
snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.2.1.5.1 a <ip
tftp server>
snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.2.1.4.1 s
<name>.cfg
snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.4.19.0 i 4
snmpget -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.1.25.0

backup binary mode
snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.2.1.5.1 a <ip
switch>
snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.2.1.4.1 s
<name>.cfg
snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.1.24.0 i 4
snmpget -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.1.25.0

but my problem my version of switch not support
snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.4.19.0 i 4
(current i have problem upgrade all switch)

i need support with login options Ctrl+Y

Thanks
Roman
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From oogali at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 03:27:40 2009
From: oogali at gmail.com (Omachonu Ogali)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:27:40 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: Need help with backup nortel 5520 configuration
In-Reply-To: <5a6225190911150225k381f33e7w2b935b8b4368943f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5a6225190911150225k381f33e7w2b935b8b4368943f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e399ee80911151927o77bc44b0pd12210558fd0f1e6@mail.gmail.com>

I did something for this exact set of switches a few months ago, it should
help you with the dreaded Ctrl-Y interfaces on the older code. Diff is in
the attachment:
http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2009-October/004292.html

Although, if the code supports it, I strongly suggest you change the
configuration to default to CLI interface instead of the menu interface.

oo

2009/11/15 Snaiper <snaiperb at gmail.com>

> *Hi,
> i have switch nortel 5520
> when I try to telnet my switch it shows an UI (need Press Ctrl+Y)
> Is there any support with blogin to Nortel siwtches with UI?
> current i found options backup switch through snmp to tftp server
>
> example:
>
> backup text mode
> snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.2.1.5.1 a <ip
> tftp server>
> snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.2.1.4.1 s
> <name>.cfg
> snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.4.19.0 i 4
> snmpget -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.1.25.0
>
> backup binary mode
> snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.2.1.5.1 a <ip
> switch>
> snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.2.1.4.1 s
> <name>.cfg
> snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.1.24.0 i 4
> snmpget -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.2.1.25.0
>
> but my problem my version of switch not support
> snmpset -v2c -c private <ip switch> .1.3.6.1.4.1.45.1.6.4.4.19.0 i 4
> (current i have problem upgrade all switch)
>
> i need support with login options Ctrl+Y
>
> Thanks
> Roman
> *
>
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From mathiruban at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 04:29:11 2009
From: mathiruban at gmail.com (Mathiruban Rajagopal)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:59:11 +0530
Subject: [rancid]  Hostname in router.db
Message-ID: <136e115c0911152029p34cae129ycf528d6934ee4890@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Can I user the router hostname instead of ip address in router.db.?


Thx

Mathy.
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From mksmith at adhost.com  Mon Nov 16 04:32:41 2009
From: mksmith at adhost.com (Michael K. Smith - Adhost)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:32:41 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Hostname in router.db
In-Reply-To: <136e115c0911152029p34cae129ycf528d6934ee4890@mail.gmail.com>
References: <136e115c0911152029p34cae129ycf528d6934ee4890@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <975DB9E9-4B78-4B20-A2FC-C00AF6F6CCBA@adhost.com>

As long as the name can be resolved, by DNS or a local host file as an  
example, then yes.

Mike

Insert iPhone mea culpa here.

On Nov 15, 2009, at 20:30, "Mathiruban Rajagopal"  
<mathiruban at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can I user the router hostname instead of ip address in router.db.?
>
>
> Thx
>
> Mathy.
>
>
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From mathiruban at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 06:47:41 2009
From: mathiruban at gmail.com (Mathiruban Rajagopal)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:17:41 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Hostname in router.db
In-Reply-To: <975DB9E9-4B78-4B20-A2FC-C00AF6F6CCBA@adhost.com>
References: <136e115c0911152029p34cae129ycf528d6934ee4890@mail.gmail.com>
	<975DB9E9-4B78-4B20-A2FC-C00AF6F6CCBA@adhost.com>
Message-ID: <136e115c0911152247x641e1539p21d5ad038b548355@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Thanks a lot Mike, I have anoter issue that I want to run rancid-run for
different device group with different time.
How to define the cron job?.

Mathy.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost <
mksmith at adhost.com> wrote:

> As long as the name can be resolved, by DNS or a local host file as an
> example, then yes.
>
> Mike
>
> Insert iPhone mea culpa here.
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 20:30, "Mathiruban Rajagopal" <mathiruban at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>>
>> Can I user the router hostname instead of ip address in router.db.?
>>
>>
>> Thx
>>
>> Mathy.
>>
>>
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From mathiruban at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 14:06:06 2009
From: mathiruban at gmail.com (Mathiruban Rajagopal)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:36:06 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: wrong code with "Last configuration change at...."
In-Reply-To: <4ABCC7D3.2000302@hostalia.com>
References: <4ABCC7D3.2000302@hostalia.com>
Message-ID: <136e115c0911160606p555db0dbw3319bb7f751677d3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Which file I have to edit?
I am not getting the last config change for cisco routers.

Mathy.



2009/9/25 I?aki Martinez Diez <networking at hostalia.com>

> Hi,
>
>  I want to log the lines:
>
>  ! Last configuration change at 12:50:31 GMT Fri Sep 25 2009 by xxxxx
>  ! NVRAM config last updated at 08:35:27 GMT Fri Sep 25 2009 by xxxxx
>
>
>  But this code is wrong:
>
> 1488 # This routine processes a "write term"
> 1489 sub WriteTerm {
> 1490     print STDERR "    In WriteTerm: $_" if ($debug);
> 1491     my($lineauto,$comment,$linecnt) = (0,0,0);
> 1492
> 1493     while (<INPUT>) {
> 1494         tr/\015//d;
> 1495         last if (/^$prompt/);
> 1496         return(1) if /Line has invalid autocommand /;
> 1497         return(1) if (/(Invalid input detected|Type help or )/i);
> 1498         return(0) if ($found_end);              # Only do this
> routine once
> 1499         return(-1) if (/command authorization failed/i);
> 1500         # the pager can not be disabled per-session on the PIX
> 1501         if (/^(<-+ More -+>)/) {
> 1502             my($len) = length($1);
> 1503             s/^$1\s{$len}//;
> 1504         }
> 1505
> 1506         /Non-Volatile memory is in use/  && return(-1); # NvRAM is
> locked
> 1507         $linecnt++;
> 1508         $lineauto = 0 if (/^[^ ]/);
> 1509         # skip the crap
> 1510         if (/^(##+$|(Building|Current) configuration)/i) {
> 1511             while (<INPUT>) {
> 1512                 next if (/^Current configuration\s*:/i);
> 1513                 next if (/^:/);
> 1514                 next if (/^([%!].*|\s*)$/);
> 1515                 next if (/^ip add.*ipv4:/);     # band-aid for 3620
> 12.0S
> 1516                 last;
> 1517             }
> 1518             if (defined($config_register)) {
> 1519                 ProcessHistory("","","","!\nconfig-register
> $config_register\n");
> 1520             }
> 1521             tr/\015//d;
> 1522         }
> 1523         # some versions have other crap mixed in with the bits in the
> 1524         # block above
> 1525         /^! (Last configuration|NVRAM config last)/ && next;
> 1526
>
>  Although i commented the line 1525 the lines above are NEVER logged
> because the "while" loop in the line 1511 ignore and the two lines are
> never processed by line 1525, so i made this changes:
>
> 1488 # This routine processes a "write term"
> 1489 sub WriteTerm {
> 1490     print STDERR "    In WriteTerm: $_" if ($debug);
> 1491     my($lineauto,$comment,$linecnt) = (0,0,0);
> 1492
> 1493     while (<INPUT>) {
> 1494     tr/\015//d;
> 1495     last if (/^$prompt/);
> 1496     return(1) if /Line has invalid autocommand /;
> 1497     return(1) if (/(Invalid input detected|Type help or )/i);
> 1498     return(0) if ($found_end);      # Only do this routine once
> 1499     return(-1) if (/command authorization failed/i);
> 1500     # the pager can not be disabled per-session on the PIX
> 1501     if (/^(<-+ More -+>)/) {
> 1502         my($len) = length($1);
> 1503         s/^$1\s{$len}//;
> 1504     }
> 1505
> 1506     /Non-Volatile memory is in use/  && return(-1); # NvRAM is locked
> 1507     $linecnt++;
> 1508     $lineauto = 0 if (/^[^ ]/);
> 1509     # skip the crap
> 1510     if (/^(##+$|(Building|Current) configuration)/i) {
> 1511         while (<INPUT>) {
> 1512         if (/^! (Last configuration|NVRAM config last)/) {
> 1513             ProcessHistory("","","",$_);
> 1514             next;
> 1515         }
> 1516         next if (/^Current configuration\s*:/i);
> 1517         next if (/^:/);
> 1518         next if (/^([%!].*|\s*)$/);
> 1519         next if (/^ip add.*ipv4:/); # band-aid for 3620 12.0S
> 1520         last;
> 1521         }
> 1522         if (defined($config_register)) {
> 1523         ProcessHistory("","","","!\nconfig-register
> $config_register\n");
> 1524         }
> 1525         tr/\015//d;
> 1526     }
> 1527     # some versions have other crap mixed in with the bits in the
> 1528     # block above
> 1529
>
>  So now the two lines are logged and emailed.
>
>  I hope this can help somebody.
>
>
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From snaiperb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 16 15:09:32 2009
From: snaiperb at gmail.com (Snaiper)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:09:32 +0200
Subject: [rancid]   Re: Need help with backup nortel 5520 configuration
Message-ID: <5a6225190911160709o653995b7ycd5fb4446fe9e247@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks,
all work fine
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From Nick.Hollingsworth at alphawest.com.au  Tue Nov 17 00:17:41 2009
From: Nick.Hollingsworth at alphawest.com.au (Nick Hollingsworth)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:17:41 +1100
Subject: [rancid] Re: All routers showing as down
In-Reply-To: <20091113085821.GA29507@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <F0AC64310B6C264891E246D90E1E9D5420BA63F02F@AWMAIL.alphawest.com.au>


> > You nailed it Alex and John - file was in DOS format. Solved it with:
> >
> > 	:set ff=unix
> >
> > Now I need to figure out a way for the admins to modify the file without changing
> the format.  I did some tests - rancid doesn't seem to mind if root owns router.db or
> that router.db group is root.
> 
> end the lines w/ :


As in:

	10.4.1.2:cisco:up:

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From pc50000 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 02:53:53 2009
From: pc50000 at gmail.com (P C)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:53:53 -0700
Subject: [rancid] RANCID notifies of identical change repeatedly on cisco
	IOS router
Message-ID: <47b527130911161853i60f14564h5ddcc0c75b567cf1@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Cisco IOS router which keeps alerting the same exact change
notification e-mail with the following changes over and over.  Why is Rancid
doing this?:


-  rxspeed 3600000

-  txspeed 384000

+  speed 384000


The actual configuration under this section currently on the device is as
follows:

line 0/1/0
 exec-timeout 0 0
 script dialer GSM
 modem InOut
 no exec
 rxspeed 3600000
 txspeed 384000

I never receive an alert saying the configuration is changing both
directions, so if it is indeed flapping betwen the two RANCID is not
reporting it.


Thanks,
Paul
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From perc69 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 09:16:56 2009
From: perc69 at gmail.com (Per Carlson)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:16:56 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  Adding a separate module for Cisco IOS XR devices
Message-ID: <746ca6da0911170116y17f8f3b8xef934ee816e33f33@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

While RANCID officially supports IOS XR (IOX) since 2.3.2, this
support is merely a tweak of the IOS-code, and not a proper IOS XR
module.

This tweak makes things suboptimal. For example you must turn on
autoenable for all XR devices and all commands are run from "user
mode" when some
commands benefits being run from "admin mode".

I would therefor propose to create a separate module for IOS XR
devices. A patch for creating this support is attached.

-- 
Pelle
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From perc69 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 09:07:48 2009
From: perc69 at gmail.com (Per Carlson)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:07:48 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  Disabling timestamp on Cisco IO devices
Message-ID: <746ca6da0911170107m1a5133cclb3d32e86d5fc0e51@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

We have enabled timestamping of all "show commands" on those Cisco IOS
devices supporting it. The actual configuration looks like:

line vty <form> <to>
  exec prompt timestamp

When doing for example "show version", the output is prepended by a
CPU load indicator as well as a timestamp:

router>show version
Load for five secs: 0%/0%; one minute: 0%; five minutes: 0%
Time source is NTP, 09:57:49.061 CET Tue Nov 17 2009
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) GS Software (C12KPRP-K4P-M), Version 12.0(33)S5, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2009 by cisco Systems, Inc.
<snip/>

The timestamp will of course differ at each run, which makes RANCID
detect a diff on each and every "show command". Not good.

The solution to the problem is disabling the timestamping (by the
command "terminal no exec prompt timestamp") before running the "show
commands". My approach to this is adding a command to the top of the
commandtable list, and expanding the DoNothing sub slightly. The patch
is attached.

-- 
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From mathiruban at gmail.com  Tue Nov 17 12:03:04 2009
From: mathiruban at gmail.com (Mathiruban Rajagopal)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:33:04 +0530
Subject: [rancid]  Last commit not shown for cisco config diff email
Message-ID: <136e115c0911170403u423796b0vbce1a2c3da09516c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi ,

In my config diff email. last commit for cisco router's not shown but
juniper it is ok.
Do I want to do any modification in configuration?
Pls let me know.

Rgds,

Mathy
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From rancid at ale.cx  Tue Nov 17 20:50:53 2009
From: rancid at ale.cx (alex dekker)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:50:53 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Hostname in router.db
In-Reply-To: <136e115c0911152247x641e1539p21d5ad038b548355@mail.gmail.com>
References: <136e115c0911152029p34cae129ycf528d6934ee4890@mail.gmail.com>
	<975DB9E9-4B78-4B20-A2FC-C00AF6F6CCBA@adhost.com>
	<136e115c0911152247x641e1539p21d5ad038b548355@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911172050.53809.rancid@ale.cx>

On Monday 16 November 2009 06:47:41 Mathiruban Rajagopal wrote:

> Thanks a lot Mike, I have anoter issue that I want to run rancid-run for
> different device group with different time.
> How to define the cron job?.

From 'man rancid-run':

"The set of rancid groups can ... be provided as command-line arguments"

So two crontab entries with different times, each specifying the relevant 
group.

alexd

From Jayant.Jape at tikona.in  Wed Nov 18 08:04:49 2009
From: Jayant.Jape at tikona.in (Jayant Jape)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:34:49 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Hostname in router.db
In-Reply-To: <200911172050.53809.rancid@ale.cx>
References: <136e115c0911152029p34cae129ycf528d6934ee4890@mail.gmail.com>
	<975DB9E9-4B78-4B20-A2FC-C00AF6F6CCBA@adhost.com>
	<136e115c0911152247x641e1539p21d5ad038b548355@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911172050.53809.rancid@ale.cx>
Message-ID: <A9D037909EC80548823D41C41DFF441D31C8698E48@EXCHMAILSERVER.tikona.in>

Hi,

I have few queries:

1)Can we backup running configurations of the devices only and comment out other commands.
2)Presently backups are happening ip-wise can we make it hostname-wise.
3)If individual devices needs to be backed up(Incase they were not reachable at time of backup) what would be the command.....?



Thanks & Regards

Jayant



-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of alex dekker
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:21 AM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Re: Hostname in router.db

On Monday 16 November 2009 06:47:41 Mathiruban Rajagopal wrote:

> Thanks a lot Mike, I have anoter issue that I want to run rancid-run for
> different device group with different time.
> How to define the cron job?.

>From 'man rancid-run':

"The set of rancid groups can ... be provided as command-line arguments"

So two crontab entries with different times, each specifying the relevant
group.

alexd
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From heas at shrubbery.net  Wed Nov 18 19:54:53 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:54:53 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Hostname in router.db
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Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 01:34:49PM +0530, Jayant Jape:
> Hi,
> 
> I have few queries:
> 
> 1)Can we backup running configurations of the devices only and comment out other commands.

no, minimum is show version and config, iirc.

> 2)Presently backups are happening ip-wise can we make it hostname-wise.

yes

> 3)If individual devices needs to be backed up(Incase they were not reachable at time of backup) what would be the command.....?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> 
> Jayant
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of alex dekker
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:21 AM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Re: Hostname in router.db
> 
> On Monday 16 November 2009 06:47:41 Mathiruban Rajagopal wrote:
> 
> > Thanks a lot Mike, I have anoter issue that I want to run rancid-run for
> > different device group with different time.
> > How to define the cron job?.
> 
> >From 'man rancid-run':
> 
> "The set of rancid groups can ... be provided as command-line arguments"
> 
> So two crontab entries with different times, each specifying the relevant
> group.
> 
> alexd
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From remyheiden at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 00:01:09 2009
From: remyheiden at gmail.com (Remy Heiden)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:01:09 +0100
Subject: [rancid] Re: Hostname in router.db
In-Reply-To: <200911172050.53809.rancid@ale.cx>
References: <136e115c0911152029p34cae129ycf528d6934ee4890@mail.gmail.com>
	<975DB9E9-4B78-4B20-A2FC-C00AF6F6CCBA@adhost.com>
	<136e115c0911152247x641e1539p21d5ad038b548355@mail.gmail.com>
	<200911172050.53809.rancid@ale.cx>
Message-ID: <bf3c43510911181601p5f385cf2wd9b9e8781d04ebeb@mail.gmail.com>

Or as I accidentally only replied to to OP:

# rancid-run <groupename>

Or per device:

# rancidrun -r <device-ip/name>

Remy


On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM, alex dekker <rancid at ale.cx> wrote:
> On Monday 16 November 2009 06:47:41 Mathiruban Rajagopal wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot Mike, I have anoter issue that I want to run rancid-run for
>> different device group with different time.
>> How to define the cron job?.
>
> >From 'man rancid-run':
>
> "The set of rancid groups can ... be provided as command-line arguments"
>
> So two crontab entries with different times, each specifying the relevant
> group.
>
> alexd
> _______________________________________________
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> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>



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=====================
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From mathiruban at gmail.com  Thu Nov 19 13:29:22 2009
From: mathiruban at gmail.com (Mathiruban Rajagopal)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:59:22 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Last commit not shown for cisco config diff email
In-Reply-To: <136e115c0911170403u423796b0vbce1a2c3da09516c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <136e115c0911170403u423796b0vbce1a2c3da09516c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <136e115c0911190529s2c9a5818r4911c06b3f714844@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Team,

If any one face this issue,pls let me know how solve it.

Rgds,

Mathy.



On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Mathiruban Rajagopal
<mathiruban at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi ,
>
> In my config diff email. last commit for cisco router's not shown but
> juniper it is ok.
> Do I want to do any modification in configuration?
> Pls let me know.
>
> Rgds,
>
> Mathy
>
>
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From aseelye-lists at eltopia.com  Thu Nov 19 23:03:47 2009
From: aseelye-lists at eltopia.com (Aaron Seelye)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:03:47 -0800
Subject: [rancid]  Mikrotik proposed patch status?
Message-ID: <4B05CED3.1060603@eltopia.com>

Hello all,

I'm a bit new to the list, so apologies if this has been answered.  A 
while back, someone submitted patches for the development version of 
mikrotik devices here: 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/rancid/users/3826 , but I don't 
see that in the latest dev or stable versions.  I've found that this 
patch works well for me in the 2.3.2 version, is there any reason it 
wasn't or hasn't been included yet?

TIA,

Aaron Seelye

From mathiruban at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 01:55:58 2009
From: mathiruban at gmail.com (Mathiruban Rajagopal)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:25:58 +0530
Subject: [rancid]  Reporting Router config change instanly
Message-ID: <136e115c0911201755p559d03c3pfed4cb7c7a124f08@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

Is it possible to get the config change via email as soon as change have
committed in router.

Thx,

Mathy
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From oogali at gmail.com  Sat Nov 21 02:06:06 2009
From: oogali at gmail.com (Omachonu Ogali)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:06:06 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: Reporting Router config change instanly
In-Reply-To: <136e115c0911201755p559d03c3pfed4cb7c7a124f08@mail.gmail.com>
References: <136e115c0911201755p559d03c3pfed4cb7c7a124f08@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e399ee80911201806v9d90639qf287d56d7ea3b6bc@mail.gmail.com>

I've considered hacking something together with snmptrapd...

e.g. upon receipt of a SNMP trap with a configuration change OID, spark up
rancid-run to hit the source router.

oo

2009/11/20 Mathiruban Rajagopal <mathiruban at gmail.com>

> Hello All,
>
> Is it possible to get the config change via email as soon as change have
> committed in router.
>
> Thx,
>
> Mathy
>
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From heas at shrubbery.net  Mon Nov 23 22:01:31 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:01:31 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Reporting Router config change instanly
In-Reply-To: <e399ee80911201806v9d90639qf287d56d7ea3b6bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <136e115c0911201755p559d03c3pfed4cb7c7a124f08@mail.gmail.com>
	<e399ee80911201806v9d90639qf287d56d7ea3b6bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091123220131.GO15357@shrubbery.net>

see the faq

Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 09:06:06PM -0500, Omachonu Ogali:
> I've considered hacking something together with snmptrapd...
> 
> e.g. upon receipt of a SNMP trap with a configuration change OID, spark up
> rancid-run to hit the source router.
> 
> oo
> 
> 2009/11/20 Mathiruban Rajagopal <mathiruban at gmail.com>
> 
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Is it possible to get the config change via email as soon as change have
> > committed in router.
> >
> > Thx,
> >
> > Mathy
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> >

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From vishal.ud at directi.com  Tue Nov 24 18:36:25 2009
From: vishal.ud at directi.com (vishal.ud)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:06:25 +0530
Subject: [rancid]  Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
Message-ID: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com>

Hey ,

I am running rancid 2.3 downloaded from the shrew berry website (latest 
stable build) . I have managed to configure almost everything for our HP 
Procurve switches and have managed to build the CVS repo and CVS web. 
rancid-run works perfectly fine . However , i am facing issues with 
making rancid use sendmail to notify us about the diffs made .  my 
/etc/aliases file looks something like this
rancid-Switches: ouremail at domian.com
The LIST_OF_GROUPS is defined as Switches in the rancid.conf file . Post 
that i ran *sudo newaliases* to initialise the sendmail db . Made a 
small change in one of the routers and then did a rancid-run but the 
logs indicate

home/rancid/var/CVS/Switches/configs/IP_addr v  <--  configs/IP addr
new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4
/home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found

Any help would be appreciated :)



From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Tue Nov 24 18:41:17 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:41:17 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com>
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

Do you have sendmail installed and configured?  

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:36 AM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Issues with Sendmail using Rancid

Hey ,

I am running rancid 2.3 downloaded from the shrew berry website (latest 
stable build) . I have managed to configure almost everything for our HP

Procurve switches and have managed to build the CVS repo and CVS web. 
rancid-run works perfectly fine . However , i am facing issues with 
making rancid use sendmail to notify us about the diffs made .  my 
/etc/aliases file looks something like this
rancid-Switches: ouremail at domian.com
The LIST_OF_GROUPS is defined as Switches in the rancid.conf file . Post

that i ran *sudo newaliases* to initialise the sendmail db . Made a 
small change in one of the routers and then did a rancid-run but the 
logs indicate

home/rancid/var/CVS/Switches/configs/IP_addr v  <--  configs/IP addr
new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4
/home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found

Any help would be appreciated :)


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From vishal.ud at directi.com  Tue Nov 24 18:52:47 2009
From: vishal.ud at directi.com (vishal.ud)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:22:47 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
Message-ID: <4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>

well like i said im pretty new to sendmail . All i did was simply 
install it using apt-get install sendmail

Schmidt, Daniel wrote:
> Do you have sendmail installed and configured?  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:36 AM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
>
> Hey ,
>
> I am running rancid 2.3 downloaded from the shrew berry website (latest 
> stable build) . I have managed to configure almost everything for our HP
>
> Procurve switches and have managed to build the CVS repo and CVS web. 
> rancid-run works perfectly fine . However , i am facing issues with 
> making rancid use sendmail to notify us about the diffs made .  my 
> /etc/aliases file looks something like this
> rancid-Switches: ouremail at domian.com
> The LIST_OF_GROUPS is defined as Switches in the rancid.conf file . Post
>
> that i ran *sudo newaliases* to initialise the sendmail db . Made a 
> small change in one of the routers and then did a rancid-run but the 
> logs indicate
>
> home/rancid/var/CVS/Switches/configs/IP_addr v  <--  configs/IP addr
> new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4
> /home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found
>
> Any help would be appreciated :)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
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From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Tue Nov 24 19:02:49 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:02:49 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <4BBAF403456ED74981E7164ED3A4C224019A7DE6@CA-EVS02.pelco.org>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com><05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>
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U probably want postfix

-----Original Message-----
From: Mahaffey, Brian [mailto:bmahaffey at pelco.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:03 PM
To: vishal.ud; Schmidt, Daniel
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid

You may be missing your Relay if you send mail through another server.

you can edit /etc/mail/sendmail.cf or /etc/sendmail.cf depend on your
operating system.

and edit as 

# "Smart" relay host (may be null)
DS<mailserver_hostname>

example
DSmail.domain.com (remove the "< & >")

Restart Sendmail

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:53 AM
To: Schmidt, Daniel
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid

well like i said im pretty new to sendmail . All i did was simply 
install it using apt-get install sendmail

Schmidt, Daniel wrote:
> Do you have sendmail installed and configured?  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:36 AM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
>
> Hey ,
>
> I am running rancid 2.3 downloaded from the shrew berry website
(latest 
> stable build) . I have managed to configure almost everything for our
HP
>
> Procurve switches and have managed to build the CVS repo and CVS web. 
> rancid-run works perfectly fine . However , i am facing issues with 
> making rancid use sendmail to notify us about the diffs made .  my 
> /etc/aliases file looks something like this
> rancid-Switches: ouremail at domian.com
> The LIST_OF_GROUPS is defined as Switches in the rancid.conf file .
Post
>
> that i ran *sudo newaliases* to initialise the sendmail db . Made a 
> small change in one of the routers and then did a rancid-run but the 
> logs indicate
>
> home/rancid/var/CVS/Switches/configs/IP_addr v  <--  configs/IP addr
> new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4
> /home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found
>
> Any help would be appreciated :)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
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From bmahaffey at pelco.com  Tue Nov 24 19:02:37 2009
From: bmahaffey at pelco.com (Mahaffey, Brian)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:02:37 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com><05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>
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You may be missing your Relay if you send mail through another server.

you can edit /etc/mail/sendmail.cf or /etc/sendmail.cf depend on your
operating system.

and edit as 

# "Smart" relay host (may be null)
DS<mailserver_hostname>

example
DSmail.domain.com (remove the "< & >")

Restart Sendmail

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:53 AM
To: Schmidt, Daniel
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid

well like i said im pretty new to sendmail . All i did was simply 
install it using apt-get install sendmail

Schmidt, Daniel wrote:
> Do you have sendmail installed and configured?  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:36 AM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
>
> Hey ,
>
> I am running rancid 2.3 downloaded from the shrew berry website
(latest 
> stable build) . I have managed to configure almost everything for our
HP
>
> Procurve switches and have managed to build the CVS repo and CVS web. 
> rancid-run works perfectly fine . However , i am facing issues with 
> making rancid use sendmail to notify us about the diffs made .  my 
> /etc/aliases file looks something like this
> rancid-Switches: ouremail at domian.com
> The LIST_OF_GROUPS is defined as Switches in the rancid.conf file .
Post
>
> that i ran *sudo newaliases* to initialise the sendmail db . Made a 
> small change in one of the routers and then did a rancid-run but the 
> logs indicate
>
> home/rancid/var/CVS/Switches/configs/IP_addr v  <--  configs/IP addr
> new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4
> /home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found
>
> Any help would be appreciated :)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>   

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From vishal.ud at directi.com  Tue Nov 24 19:11:40 2009
From: vishal.ud at directi.com (vishal.ud)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:41:40 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <4BBAF403456ED74981E7164ED3A4C224019A7DE6@CA-EVS02.pelco.org>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com><05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>
	<4BBAF403456ED74981E7164ED3A4C224019A7DE6@CA-EVS02.pelco.org>
Message-ID: <4B0C2FEC.9090801@directi.com>

Right  , so i was intending to use our external smtp server . I edited 
the below mentioned file (using UBuntu btw) . restarted sendmail . 
However , i still get the
/home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found error


Mahaffey, Brian wrote:
> You may be missing your Relay if you send mail through another server.
>
> you can edit /etc/mail/sendmail.cf or /etc/sendmail.cf depend on your
> operating system.
>
> and edit as 
>
> # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
> DS<mailserver_hostname>
>
> example
> DSmail.domain.com (remove the "< & >")
>
> Restart Sendmail
>
> -


From vishal.ud at directi.com  Tue Nov 24 19:23:57 2009
From: vishal.ud at directi.com (vishal.ud)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:53:57 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
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From jkrauska at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 19:39:52 2009
From: jkrauska at gmail.com (Joel Krauska)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:39:52 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <4B0C2FEC.9090801@directi.com>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com><05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>	<4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>	<4BBAF403456ED74981E7164ED3A4C224019A7DE6@CA-EVS02.pelco.org>
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Look at the code.

I had a similar problem..
I had to explicitly reference /usr/sbin/sendmail.
(/usr/sbin wasn't in the path for the rancid user I set up)

Type 'which sendmail' to figure out where you sendmail binary is and then try replacing the 5 lines in control_rancid that have "sendmail" with "/usr/sbin/sendmail"..
(or whatever 'which' tells you)




vishal.ud wrote:
> Right  , so i was intending to use our external smtp server . I edited 
> the below mentioned file (using UBuntu btw) . restarted sendmail . 
> However , i still get the
> /home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found error
> 
> 
> Mahaffey, Brian wrote:
>> You may be missing your Relay if you send mail through another server.
>>
>> you can edit /etc/mail/sendmail.cf or /etc/sendmail.cf depend on your
>> operating system.
>>
>> and edit as 
>>
>> # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
>> DS<mailserver_hostname>
>>
>> example
>> DSmail.domain.com (remove the "< & >")
>>
>> Restart Sendmail
>>
>> -
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> 


From heas at shrubbery.net  Tue Nov 24 19:49:41 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:49:41 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <4B0C3688.3060806@gmail.com>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>
	<4BBAF403456ED74981E7164ED3A4C224019A7DE6@CA-EVS02.pelco.org>
	<4B0C2FEC.9090801@directi.com> <4B0C3688.3060806@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091124194941.GW7044@shrubbery.net>

Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:39:52AM -0800, Joel Krauska:
> Look at the code.
> 
> I had a similar problem..
> I had to explicitly reference /usr/sbin/sendmail.
> (/usr/sbin wasn't in the path for the rancid user I set up)

then alter PATH in rancid.conf.  the configure script should have found
it and included /usr/sbin in the path.

> Type 'which sendmail' to figure out where you sendmail binary is and then try replacing the 5 lines in control_rancid that have "sendmail" with "/usr/sbin/sendmail"..
> (or whatever 'which' tells you)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> vishal.ud wrote:
> > Right  , so i was intending to use our external smtp server . I edited 
> > the below mentioned file (using UBuntu btw) . restarted sendmail . 
> > However , i still get the
> > /home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found error
> > 
> > 
> > Mahaffey, Brian wrote:
> >> You may be missing your Relay if you send mail through another server.
> >>
> >> you can edit /etc/mail/sendmail.cf or /etc/sendmail.cf depend on your
> >> operating system.
> >>
> >> and edit as 
> >>
> >> # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
> >> DS<mailserver_hostname>
> >>
> >> example
> >> DSmail.domain.com (remove the "< & >")
> >>
> >> Restart Sendmail
> >>
> >> -
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > 
> 
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From infotek at gmail.com  Tue Nov 24 19:45:15 2009
From: infotek at gmail.com (Jason Ellison)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:45:15 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <4B0C32CD.30503@directi.com>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com>
	<05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
	<4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>
	<4BBAF403456ED74981E7164ED3A4C224019A7DE6@CA-EVS02.pelco.org>
	<4B0C32CD.30503@directi.com>
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vishal.ud,

sendmail: not found

  It looks to me like rancid could not find the sendmail binary;
"sendmail: not found".  Check the path of the user you run rancid as.
Try "which sendmail".  Check the permisions.

sendmail config

  Also DS smart host should be in brackets if you are specifying the
actual hostname of your SMTP gateway.  Other wise sendmail will do a
MX lookup for the hostname you specify in DS

DS[hostname.example.org.]

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/README.cf.8.8.html

  Also note that most default sendmail installs expose the root
user... so when sending mail as root the email will lack masquerading
which can cause it to be rejected by basic anti-spam features.  My ISP
will not accept email FROM root at somehost.home.example.org claiming
"somehost.home.example.org" does not exists.

/home/rancid/bin/control_rancid   lines 466-510

if [ -s $DIR/routers.failed ]
then
        (
          echo "To: $adminmailrcpt"
          echo "Subject: config fetcher problems - $GROUP"
          echo "$MAILHEADERS" | awk '{L = "";LN = $0;while (LN ~
/\\n/) { I = index(LN,"\\n");L = L substr('
          echo ""
          echo "The following routers have not been successfully contacted for"
          echo "more than $OLDTIME hours."

          cat $DIR/routers.failed
        ) | sendmail -t
fi


-Jason Ellison


2009/11/24 vishal.ud <vishal.ud at directi.com>:
> Funny thing here is if i telnet to localhost on port 25 and send an email
> using my email address at mydomain.com to rancid-switches , it works . but when
> running rancid-run it doesnt
>
> Mahaffey, Brian wrote:
>
> You may be missing your Relay if you send mail through another server.
>
> you can edit /etc/mail/sendmail.cf or /etc/sendmail.cf depend on your
> operating system.
>
> and edit as
>
> # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
> DS<mailserver_hostname>
>
> example
> DSmail.domain.com (remove the "< & >")
>
> Restart Sendmail
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:53 AM
> To: Schmidt, Daniel
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
>
> well like i said im pretty new to sendmail . All i did was simply
> install it using apt-get install sendmail
>
> Schmidt, Daniel wrote:
>
>
> Do you have sendmail installed and configured?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:36 AM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
>
> Hey ,
>
> I am running rancid 2.3 downloaded from the shrew berry website
>
>
> (latest
>
>
> stable build) . I have managed to configure almost everything for our
>
>
> HP
>
>
> Procurve switches and have managed to build the CVS repo and CVS web.
> rancid-run works perfectly fine . However , i am facing issues with
> making rancid use sendmail to notify us about the diffs made .  my
> /etc/aliases file looks something like this
> rancid-Switches: ouremail at domian.com
> The LIST_OF_GROUPS is defined as Switches in the rancid.conf file .
>
>
> Post
>
>
> that i ran *sudo newaliases* to initialise the sendmail db . Made a
> small change in one of the routers and then did a rancid-run but the
> logs indicate
>
> home/rancid/var/CVS/Switches/configs/IP_addr v  <--  configs/IP addr
> new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4
> /home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found
>
> Any help would be appreciated :)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>
>
>
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> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>
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From vishal.ud at directi.com  Tue Nov 24 19:52:33 2009
From: vishal.ud at directi.com (vishal.ud)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:22:33 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Issues with Sendmail using Rancid
In-Reply-To: <4B0C3688.3060806@gmail.com>
References: <4B0C27A9.9060208@directi.com><05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A88@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>	<4B0C2B7F.1090403@directi.com>	<4BBAF403456ED74981E7164ED3A4C224019A7DE6@CA-EVS02.pelco.org>
	<4B0C2FEC.9090801@directi.com> <4B0C3688.3060806@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B0C3981.2020607@directi.com>

@joel u were right :
so it turns out the script rancid_control which controls the flow of 
emails after a diff in the conf files , had a relative and not an 
absolte path to sendmail . simply subsitituting it with 
/usr/sbin/sendmail did the trick :d wohhoooo #rancid is now online !!! 
thanks guys for ur help ..rancid is truly a brilliant tool ;)

Joel Krauska wrote:
> Look at the code.
>
> I had a similar problem..
> I had to explicitly reference /usr/sbin/sendmail.
> (/usr/sbin wasn't in the path for the rancid user I set up)
>
> Type 'which sendmail' to figure out where you sendmail binary is and 
> then try replacing the 5 lines in control_rancid that have "sendmail" 
> with "/usr/sbin/sendmail"..
> (or whatever 'which' tells you)
>
>
>
>
> vishal.ud wrote:
>> Right  , so i was intending to use our external smtp server . I 
>> edited the below mentioned file (using UBuntu btw) . restarted 
>> sendmail . However , i still get the
>> /home/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 477: sendmail: not found error
>>
>>
>> Mahaffey, Brian wrote:
>>> You may be missing your Relay if you send mail through another server.
>>>
>>> you can edit /etc/mail/sendmail.cf or /etc/sendmail.cf depend on your
>>> operating system.
>>>
>>> and edit as
>>> # "Smart" relay host (may be null)
>>> DS<mailserver_hostname>
>>>
>>> example
>>> DSmail.domain.com (remove the "< & >")
>>>
>>> Restart Sendmail
>>>
>>> -
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From tex at off.org  Wed Nov 25 05:52:57 2009
From: tex at off.org (Austin Schutz)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:52:57 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Monitoring rancid poll failures
In-Reply-To: <8423e7bb0911090911h45ad5fcu3a9960cee5a682b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AF6908D.4080308@off.org> <200911091053.33041.bugs@ale.cx>
	<8423e7bb0911090911h45ad5fcu3a9960cee5a682b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B0CC639.3050101@off.org>

Lance Vermilion wrote:
> Austin,
> 
> I am sure you already know RANCID is going to be an option with 
> OpenNMS's next stable release. Pretty handy but I think you were looking 
> at a way to add an API like concept to RANCID so other NMS tools could 
> tie into it.
> 

I wanted to check this out before actually responding. It is pretty cool 
that there is a way to access the inventory through the nms itself. Not 
what I had in mind at all, and fairly limited, but pretty cool.

I want the opposite of what you suggest. I want an API like concept in 
my NMS tool so I can tie into that. I want something intuitive I can 
generate my own alarms with, not provide an API from my tool (rancid in 
this case) or hork together my own snmpd or trap generator to try to 
make something appear in the nms.

I think I may be able to bend the send-event.pl script included with 
opennms to my will. In fact, it already seems to understand that rancid 
can have event failures, so that's humongous progress right there.

I'm also going to check out Zabbix.

Thanks for the tips. These are good tools, and certainly the price can't 
be beat.

Austin


From marty at supine.com  Wed Nov 25 07:44:19 2009
From: marty at supine.com (Martin Barry)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:44:19 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
Message-ID: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>

Just recently configured RANCID and am having isssues with an ASA. It
alternates between "names" output and "no names" output. Sample
snippets:

- names
+ no names

-  ip address Internet-Transit 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2
+  ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2

An hour later I get the reverse.

Any ideas?

OS: OpenSUSE 11.2
RANCID: 2.3.2
Expect: 5.44.1.11

cheers
Marty

From rancid at ale.cx  Wed Nov 25 09:54:35 2009
From: rancid at ale.cx (alex dekker)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:54:35 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200911250954.35172.rancid@ale.cx>

On Wednesday 25 November 2009 07:44:19 Martin Barry wrote:
> Just recently configured RANCID and am having isssues with an ASA. It
> alternates between "names" output and "no names" output. Sample
> snippets:
> 
> - names
> + no names
> 
> -  ip address Internet-Transit 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2
> +  ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2

This must be an ASA bug, unless there's a show option that disables names for 
objects, and is sometimes triggered [by another user logging in to the ASA, 
perhaps?].

alexd

From shane.kavanagh at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 10:06:27 2009
From: shane.kavanagh at gmail.com (Shane Kavanagh)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:06:27 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8cf6dff10911250206o44090882taffe998f04708e5@mail.gmail.com>

All

I am seeing similar which happed in the early hours of the morning, I am not
seeing the reverse,

If I connect to the device and do a show run I see "no names" in the running
config but not in the start-up config.  The show run also tells me that my
config has not been changed since 18th November, therefore I must conclude
that this addition in the config did not get added by the CLI or Web
interface but by other means.  I am starting to look at bug tracker on
cisco.com for SNMP bugs.

Do a "show version" from the enabled CLI
this will tell you the last user to modify the config and the date and time
when this was done
"Configuration last modified by <XXX> at 10:38:56.343 UTC Wed Nov 18 2009"
Check this with the time and date of the rancid config, I get rancid to pull
configs every hour and I could pin point this to a one hour window between 6
and 7 am
check your stat up config
"show startup-config | include no names"
Its not in my start up config.

However on other ASA's I am see this and it flips several times a day

  !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
  !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
  !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
  !
- !BootFlash: BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
+ !BootFlash: BOOT variable =
  !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
  !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
  !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =




2009/11/25 Martin Barry <marty at supine.com>

> Just recently configured RANCID and am having isssues with an ASA. It
> alternates between "names" output and "no names" output. Sample
> snippets:
>
> - names
> + no names
>
> -  ip address Internet-Transit 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2
> +  ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2
>
> An hour later I get the reverse.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> OS: OpenSUSE 11.2
> RANCID: 2.3.2
> Expect: 5.44.1.11
>
> cheers
> Marty
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
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From shane.kavanagh at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 10:51:37 2009
From: shane.kavanagh at gmail.com (Shane Kavanagh)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:51:37 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <8cf6dff10911250206o44090882taffe998f04708e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>
	<8cf6dff10911250206o44090882taffe998f04708e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8cf6dff10911250251i1bda4a7flfd87248bf5597ada@mail.gmail.com>

This may be a bug in the ASA

CSCsz60119 Bug Details

*Traceroute makes configuration change from "no names" to "names" *    *
Symptom:*

"no names" is changed to "names" by issuing traceroute commmand.

*Conditions:*

The state that "no names" is defined.

*Workaround:*

No workaround at this time
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2009/11/25 Shane Kavanagh <shane.kavanagh at gmail.com>

> All
>
> I am seeing similar which happed in the early hours of the morning, I am
> not seeing the reverse,
>
> If I connect to the device and do a show run I see "no names" in the
> running config but not in the start-up config.  The show run also tells me
> that my config has not been changed since 18th November, therefore I must
> conclude that this addition in the config did not get added by the CLI or
> Web interface but by other means.  I am starting to look at bug tracker on
> cisco.com for SNMP bugs.
>
> Do a "show version" from the enabled CLI
> this will tell you the last user to modify the config and the date and time
> when this was done
> "Configuration last modified by <XXX> at 10:38:56.343 UTC Wed Nov 18 2009"
> Check this with the time and date of the rancid config, I get rancid to
> pull configs every hour and I could pin point this to a one hour window
> between 6 and 7 am
> check your stat up config
> "show startup-config | include no names"
> Its not in my start up config.
>
> However on other ASA's I am see this and it flips several times a day
>
>   !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
>   !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
>   !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
>   !
> - !BootFlash: BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> + !BootFlash: BOOT variable =
>   !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
>   !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
>   !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
>
>
>
>
> 2009/11/25 Martin Barry <marty at supine.com>
>
> Just recently configured RANCID and am having isssues with an ASA. It
>> alternates between "names" output and "no names" output. Sample
>> snippets:
>>
>> - names
>> + no names
>>
>> -  ip address Internet-Transit 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2
>> +  ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2
>>
>> An hour later I get the reverse.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> OS: OpenSUSE 11.2
>> RANCID: 2.3.2
>> Expect: 5.44.1.11
>>
>> cheers
>> Marty
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>>
>
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From marty at supine.com  Wed Nov 25 10:51:01 2009
From: marty at supine.com (Martin Barry)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:51:01 +0100
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <8cf6dff10911250206o44090882taffe998f04708e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>
	<8cf6dff10911250206o44090882taffe998f04708e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d05a5e430911250251u1fde7c9bke4e7bc57d7f19fb6@mail.gmail.com>

2009/11/25 Shane Kavanagh <shane.kavanagh at gmail.com>:
>
> However on other ASA's I am see this and it flips several times a day
>
> ? !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> ? !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !
> - !BootFlash: BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> + !BootFlash: BOOT variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> ? !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =

I am also seeing this BootFlash issue as well, but more frequently
than the "no names" one.

cheers
Marty

From abirgisson at fattoc.com  Wed Nov 25 11:39:20 2009
From: abirgisson at fattoc.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=C1rni_Birgisson?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:39:20 +0000
Subject: [rancid]  Rancid output "Binary files differ"
Message-ID: <9D5A3076-A17A-4EEC-B24C-8EDD25E710DC@fattoc.com>

Hi guys,

I'm wondering if anybody has seen this problem before.
This mail is going to be a bit long, starting with a simple description of the problem,
and then my diagnosis of it.

From time to time I'm getting a strange output from RANCID:

-----

Index: configs/router-x
===================================================================
retrieving revision 1.88
diff -U 4 -r1.88 router-x
Binary files /tmp/cvsQSyJ8S and router-x differ

-----

As I noticed that the revision number was quite high I looked around and it seems that this
does happen for more than one router - but happens very often to this one.
Most of the network equipment has had about 30-40 revisions since RANCID was installed
but this one has 88 revisions.

If I check a few versions of the config out of CVS I can see that indeed some of the files are weird.

-bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.89
--normal diff output showing config changes--
-bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.87
--normal diff output showing config changes--
-bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.88
cvs diff: Diffing pe
cvs diff: Diffing pe/configs
Index: pe/configs/router-x
===================================================================
RCS file: /var/rancid/CVS/pe/configs/router-x,v
retrieving revision 1.86
retrieving revision 1.88
diff -r1.86 -r1.88
Binary files /tmp/cvsCqpVfB and /tmp/cvsp09kv5 differ

Okay, looks like version 1.88 is the weird one.

Let's fetch 1.88 and 1.89
-bash-4.0$ cvs co -r1.88 pe/configs/router-x
U pe/configs/router-x
-bash-4.0$ cp pe/configs/router-x v1.88
-bash-4.0$ cvs co -r1.89 pe/configs/router-x
U pe/configs/router-x
-bash-4.0$ cp pe/configs/router-x v1.89

-bash-4.0$ ls -al v1.8*
-rw-r--r-x 1 rancid rancid 70556 2009-11-25 05:28 v1.88
-rw-r--r-x 1 rancid rancid 70556 2009-11-25 05:28 v1.89
-bash-4.0$ diff v1.88 v1.89
Binary files v1.88 and v1.89 differ
-bash-4.0$ 

--- same size of the files, but diff won't compare them because they are (or one of them is) a binary file.

-bash-4.0$ strings v1.88 | wc -l
1387
-bash-4.0$ strings v1.89 | wc -l
1542

Now when I have a look at the files it seems that the smaller file (v1.88 and "binary") starts with a lot of \0 bytes,
it would seem one for each character that is missing - and then continues exactly like the other one.
Or should I say the files are exactly the same - but it's as if the first (1542 - 1387) bytes of v1.88 are 0-byte instead
of the character that should be there.

Diff --text on them shows that v1.89 includes all the lines from v1.88 and more and there has been no real
change to the config.

I'm running rancid version 2.3.2, with a slight change to jrancid:
The change to jrancid is to make it backup a "show configuration | display set" version of the config as well as the
normal "show configuration" and is done by adding one function:

sub ShowConfigurationDisplaySet {
    print STDERR "    In ShowConfigurationDisplaySet: $_" if ($debug);

    s/^[a-z]+@//;
    ProcessHistory("","","","# $_");
    while (<INPUT>) {
        tr/\015//d;
        last if (/^$prompt/);
        next if (/^system (shutdown message from|going down )/i);
        next if (/^\{(master|backup)}/);

        /Unrecognized command/ && return;
        /command is not valid/ && return;
        /^\s+\^/ && return;
        /syntax error/ && return;

        ProcessHistory("","","","$_");
    }
    return(0);
}


and one item to @commandtable:
        {'show configuration | display set'     => 'ShowConfigurationDisplaySet'},

It could very well be that the errors are introduced because of my addition,
but I fail to see how.

For those that have read through all of this - thank you,
hopefully somebody can spot what's wrong!

- Arni















Arni Birgisson	
Network Engineer
FATTOC Iceland

From dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com  Wed Nov 25 17:32:36 2009
From: dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com (Schmidt, Daniel)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:32:36 -0700
Subject: [rancid]  FW:  Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
Message-ID: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A9E@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>

One solution is to set rancid to ignore these lines or to not look at the bootflash.  'names' could also easily be ignored by rancid. 

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Martin Barry
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:51 AM
To: Shane Kavanagh
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"

2009/11/25 Shane Kavanagh <shane.kavanagh at gmail.com>:
>
> However on other ASA's I am see this and it flips several times a day
>
> ? !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> ? !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !
> - !BootFlash: BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> + !BootFlash: BOOT variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> ? !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =

I am also seeing this BootFlash issue as well, but more frequently
than the "no names" one.

cheers
Marty
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From cgauthier at mapscu.com  Wed Nov 25 17:35:36 2009
From: cgauthier at mapscu.com (Chris Gauthier)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:35:36 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: FW: Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A9E@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A9E@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
Message-ID: <0A9A5A2BC1C0A94C981AF5FCF2D2F338146F0599@mshin01.mapscu.com>

While the individual "names" line could be ignored, the impact of the names/no names statement cannot.  It's not just a one-line fix.  The diff (in my case) results in a 10-page email because of all the substitutions being made.

Chris Gauthier
Network Administrator
MaPS Credit Union
v: 503.375.2445
f: 503.779.1083
http://www.mapscu.com


"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return."
-Leonardo da Vinci

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Schmidt, Daniel
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:33 AM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] FW: Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"

One solution is to set rancid to ignore these lines or to not look at the bootflash.  'names' could also easily be ignored by rancid. 

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Martin Barry
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:51 AM
To: Shane Kavanagh
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"

2009/11/25 Shane Kavanagh <shane.kavanagh at gmail.com>:
>
> However on other ASA's I am see this and it flips several times a day
>
> ? !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> ? !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !
> - !BootFlash: BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> + !BootFlash: BOOT variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> ? !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
> ? !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =

I am also seeing this BootFlash issue as well, but more frequently
than the "no names" one.

cheers
Marty
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From shane.kavanagh at gmail.com  Wed Nov 25 17:39:05 2009
From: shane.kavanagh at gmail.com (Shane Kavanagh)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:39:05 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A9E@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
References: <05CC562AFB5A9446A1BC3F66AD04A3BCC74A9E@che-exch-003.uplinkdata.com>
Message-ID: <8cf6dff10911250939o6436da1ew80820b284ca97e8f@mail.gmail.com>

How do I go about telling rancid to ignore certain details on a device
by device basis.

On 11/25/09, Schmidt, Daniel <dan.schmidt at uplinkdata.com> wrote:
> One solution is to set rancid to ignore these lines or to not look at the
> bootflash.  'names' could also easily be ignored by rancid.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Martin Barry
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:51 AM
> To: Shane Kavanagh
> Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
>
> 2009/11/25 Shane Kavanagh <shane.kavanagh at gmail.com>:
>>
>> However on other ASA's I am see this and it flips several times a day
>>
>> ? !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
>> ? !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
>> ? !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
>> ? !
>> - !BootFlash: BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
>> + !BootFlash: BOOT variable =
>> ? !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
>> ? !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
>> ? !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
>
> I am also seeing this BootFlash issue as well, but more frequently
> than the "no names" one.
>
> cheers
> Marty
> _______________________________________________
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> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
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From heas at shrubbery.net  Wed Nov 25 18:57:45 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:57:45 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d05a5e430911242344q7682a570y6c864e873cd90612@mail.gmail.com>
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Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 08:44:19AM +0100, Martin Barry:
> Just recently configured RANCID and am having isssues with an ASA. It
> alternates between "names" output and "no names" output. Sample
> snippets:
> 
> - names
> + no names
> 
> -  ip address Internet-Transit 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2
> +  ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.248 standby 192.168.0.2
> 
> An hour later I get the reverse.
> 
> Any ideas?

your IOS is broken.  call the TAC and tell them that the IOS is not
nvgen'g consistently.

> OS: OpenSUSE 11.2
> RANCID: 2.3.2
> Expect: 5.44.1.11
> 
> cheers
> Marty
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From rwest at zyedge.com  Wed Nov 25 19:05:15 2009
From: rwest at zyedge.com (Ryan West)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:05:15 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <20091125185744.GF13089@shrubbery.net>
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	<20091125185744.GF13089@shrubbery.net>
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Martin,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-
> bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of john heasley
> 
> your IOS is broken.  call the TAC and tell them that the IOS is not
> nvgen'g consistently.
> 

I thought you had mentioned you're running 8.0(4).  That code is quite old and has some nasty VPN bugs among other things.  8.0(5) was released a few weeks ago and has all the rollups included in 8.0(4)32.  Anyhow, I would agree with John that it's probably a code issue.

-ryan

From heas at shrubbery.net  Wed Nov 25 19:13:39 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:13:39 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA flapping diffs with "names" or "no names"
In-Reply-To: <8cf6dff10911250206o44090882taffe998f04708e5@mail.gmail.com>
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	<8cf6dff10911250206o44090882taffe998f04708e5@mail.gmail.com>
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Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:06:27AM +0000, Shane Kavanagh:
> All
> 
> I am seeing similar which happed in the early hours of the morning, I am not
> seeing the reverse,
> 
> If I connect to the device and do a show run I see "no names" in the running
> config but not in the start-up config.  The show run also tells me that my
> config has not been changed since 18th November, therefore I must conclude
> that this addition in the config did not get added by the CLI or Web
> interface but by other means.  I am starting to look at bug tracker on
> cisco.com for SNMP bugs.
> 
> Do a "show version" from the enabled CLI
> this will tell you the last user to modify the config and the date and time
> when this was done
> "Configuration last modified by <XXX> at 10:38:56.343 UTC Wed Nov 18 2009"
> Check this with the time and date of the rancid config, I get rancid to pull
> configs every hour and I could pin point this to a one hour window between 6
> and 7 am
> check your stat up config
> "show startup-config | include no names"
> Its not in my start up config.
> 
> However on other ASA's I am see this and it flips several times a day
> 
>   !BootFlash: Current BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
>   !BootFlash: CONFIG_FILE variable =
>   !BootFlash: Current CONFIG_FILE variable =
>   !
> - !BootFlash: BOOT variable = disk0:/asa804-k8.bin
> + !BootFlash: BOOT variable =

this is either an IOS bug or a problem with the nvram; more likely the
former.

From heas at shrubbery.net  Wed Nov 25 19:41:10 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:41:10 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid output "Binary files differ"
In-Reply-To: <9D5A3076-A17A-4EEC-B24C-8EDD25E710DC@fattoc.com>
References: <9D5A3076-A17A-4EEC-B24C-8EDD25E710DC@fattoc.com>
Message-ID: <20091125194110.GL13089@shrubbery.net>

Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:39:20AM +0000, ?rni Birgisson:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm wondering if anybody has seen this problem before.
> This mail is going to be a bit long, starting with a simple description of the problem,
> and then my diagnosis of it.
> 
> >From time to time I'm getting a strange output from RANCID:
> 
> -----
> 
> Index: configs/router-x
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.88
> diff -U 4 -r1.88 router-x
> Binary files /tmp/cvsQSyJ8S and router-x differ
> 
> -----
> 
> As I noticed that the revision number was quite high I looked around and it seems that this
> does happen for more than one router - but happens very often to this one.
> Most of the network equipment has had about 30-40 revisions since RANCID was installed
> but this one has 88 revisions.
> 
> If I check a few versions of the config out of CVS I can see that indeed some of the files are weird.
> 
> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.89
> --normal diff output showing config changes--
> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.87
> --normal diff output showing config changes--
> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.88
> cvs diff: Diffing pe
> cvs diff: Diffing pe/configs
> Index: pe/configs/router-x
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /var/rancid/CVS/pe/configs/router-x,v
> retrieving revision 1.86
> retrieving revision 1.88
> diff -r1.86 -r1.88
> Binary files /tmp/cvsCqpVfB and /tmp/cvsp09kv5 differ
> 
> Okay, looks like version 1.88 is the weird one.
> 
> Let's fetch 1.88 and 1.89
> -bash-4.0$ cvs co -r1.88 pe/configs/router-x
> U pe/configs/router-x
> -bash-4.0$ cp pe/configs/router-x v1.88
> -bash-4.0$ cvs co -r1.89 pe/configs/router-x
> U pe/configs/router-x
> -bash-4.0$ cp pe/configs/router-x v1.89
> 
> -bash-4.0$ ls -al v1.8*
> -rw-r--r-x 1 rancid rancid 70556 2009-11-25 05:28 v1.88
> -rw-r--r-x 1 rancid rancid 70556 2009-11-25 05:28 v1.89
> -bash-4.0$ diff v1.88 v1.89
> Binary files v1.88 and v1.89 differ
> -bash-4.0$ 
> 
> --- same size of the files, but diff won't compare them because they are (or one of them is) a binary file.
> 
> -bash-4.0$ strings v1.88 | wc -l
> 1387
> -bash-4.0$ strings v1.89 | wc -l
> 1542
> 
> Now when I have a look at the files it seems that the smaller file (v1.88 and "binary") starts with a lot of \0 bytes,
> it would seem one for each character that is missing - and then continues exactly like the other one.
> Or should I say the files are exactly the same - but it's as if the first (1542 - 1387) bytes of v1.88 are 0-byte instead
> of the character that should be there.
> 
> Diff --text on them shows that v1.89 includes all the lines from v1.88 and more and there has been no real
> change to the config.
> 
> I'm running rancid version 2.3.2, with a slight change to jrancid:
> The change to jrancid is to make it backup a "show configuration | display set" version of the config as well as the
> normal "show configuration" and is done by adding one function:
> 
> sub ShowConfigurationDisplaySet {
>     print STDERR "    In ShowConfigurationDisplaySet: $_" if ($debug);
> 
>     s/^[a-z]+@//;
>     ProcessHistory("","","","# $_");
>     while (<INPUT>) {
>         tr/\015//d;
>         last if (/^$prompt/);
>         next if (/^system (shutdown message from|going down )/i);
>         next if (/^\{(master|backup)}/);
> 
>         /Unrecognized command/ && return;
>         /command is not valid/ && return;
>         /^\s+\^/ && return;
>         /syntax error/ && return;
> 
>         ProcessHistory("","","","$_");
>     }
>     return(0);
> }
> 
> 
> and one item to @commandtable:
>         {'show configuration | display set'     => 'ShowConfigurationDisplaySet'},
> 
> It could very well be that the errors are introduced because of my addition,
> but I fail to see how.

not likely.  do you have a fsys or memory problem on this host?  broken
expect/tcl?  some other unintentional change to rancid?

From abirgisson at fattoc.com  Wed Nov 25 22:46:42 2009
From: abirgisson at fattoc.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=C1rni_Birgisson?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:46:42 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid output "Binary files differ"
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References: <9D5A3076-A17A-4EEC-B24C-8EDD25E710DC@fattoc.com>
	<20091125194110.GL13089@shrubbery.net>
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Hi John, thanks for your reply.

> 
> not likely.  do you have a fsys or memory problem on this host?  broken
> expect/tcl?  some other unintentional change to rancid?

I don't believe there is any problem with the server itself, no errors in dmesg concerning
hard disks or filesystems (mirrored disks), and 6GB free memory of total 8GB.
Very little load on the server, and other processes running on it are working fine.

expect and tcl are newest versions from YUM,
-- snip --
Package 1:tcl-8.5.6-6.fc11.x86_64 already installed and latest version
Package expect-5.43.0-17.fc11.x86_64 already installed and latest version
-- snip --

And this behaviour is not constant, I have seen it from time to time with other routers, but
most of the time it's this one. Still not always on this one either - usually the backups come
through correct.

- Arni


On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:41 PM, john heasley wrote:

> Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:39:20AM +0000, ?rni Birgisson:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I'm wondering if anybody has seen this problem before.
>> This mail is going to be a bit long, starting with a simple description of the problem,
>> and then my diagnosis of it.
>> 
>>> From time to time I'm getting a strange output from RANCID:
>> 
>> -----
>> 
>> Index: configs/router-x
>> ===================================================================
>> retrieving revision 1.88
>> diff -U 4 -r1.88 router-x
>> Binary files /tmp/cvsQSyJ8S and router-x differ
>> 
>> -----
>> 
>> As I noticed that the revision number was quite high I looked around and it seems that this
>> does happen for more than one router - but happens very often to this one.
>> Most of the network equipment has had about 30-40 revisions since RANCID was installed
>> but this one has 88 revisions.
>> 
>> If I check a few versions of the config out of CVS I can see that indeed some of the files are weird.
>> 
>> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.89
>> --normal diff output showing config changes--
>> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.87
>> --normal diff output showing config changes--
>> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.88
>> cvs diff: Diffing pe
>> cvs diff: Diffing pe/configs
>> Index: pe/configs/router-x
>> ===================================================================
>> RCS file: /var/rancid/CVS/pe/configs/router-x,v
>> retrieving revision 1.86
>> retrieving revision 1.88
>> diff -r1.86 -r1.88
>> Binary files /tmp/cvsCqpVfB and /tmp/cvsp09kv5 differ
>> 
>> Okay, looks like version 1.88 is the weird one.
>> 
>> Let's fetch 1.88 and 1.89
>> -bash-4.0$ cvs co -r1.88 pe/configs/router-x
>> U pe/configs/router-x
>> -bash-4.0$ cp pe/configs/router-x v1.88
>> -bash-4.0$ cvs co -r1.89 pe/configs/router-x
>> U pe/configs/router-x
>> -bash-4.0$ cp pe/configs/router-x v1.89
>> 
>> -bash-4.0$ ls -al v1.8*
>> -rw-r--r-x 1 rancid rancid 70556 2009-11-25 05:28 v1.88
>> -rw-r--r-x 1 rancid rancid 70556 2009-11-25 05:28 v1.89
>> -bash-4.0$ diff v1.88 v1.89
>> Binary files v1.88 and v1.89 differ
>> -bash-4.0$ 
>> 
>> --- same size of the files, but diff won't compare them because they are (or one of them is) a binary file.
>> 
>> -bash-4.0$ strings v1.88 | wc -l
>> 1387
>> -bash-4.0$ strings v1.89 | wc -l
>> 1542
>> 
>> Now when I have a look at the files it seems that the smaller file (v1.88 and "binary") starts with a lot of \0 bytes,
>> it would seem one for each character that is missing - and then continues exactly like the other one.
>> Or should I say the files are exactly the same - but it's as if the first (1542 - 1387) bytes of v1.88 are 0-byte instead
>> of the character that should be there.
>> 
>> Diff --text on them shows that v1.89 includes all the lines from v1.88 and more and there has been no real
>> change to the config.
>> 
>> I'm running rancid version 2.3.2, with a slight change to jrancid:
>> The change to jrancid is to make it backup a "show configuration | display set" version of the config as well as the
>> normal "show configuration" and is done by adding one function:
>> 
>> sub ShowConfigurationDisplaySet {
>>    print STDERR "    In ShowConfigurationDisplaySet: $_" if ($debug);
>> 
>>    s/^[a-z]+@//;
>>    ProcessHistory("","","","# $_");
>>    while (<INPUT>) {
>>        tr/\015//d;
>>        last if (/^$prompt/);
>>        next if (/^system (shutdown message from|going down )/i);
>>        next if (/^\{(master|backup)}/);
>> 
>>        /Unrecognized command/ && return;
>>        /command is not valid/ && return;
>>        /^\s+\^/ && return;
>>        /syntax error/ && return;
>> 
>>        ProcessHistory("","","","$_");
>>    }
>>    return(0);
>> }
>> 
>> 
>> and one item to @commandtable:
>>        {'show configuration | display set'     => 'ShowConfigurationDisplaySet'},
>> 
>> It could very well be that the errors are introduced because of my addition,
>> but I fail to see how.
> 
> not likely.  do you have a fsys or memory problem on this host?  broken
> expect/tcl?  some other unintentional change to rancid?



Arni Birgisson	
Network Engineer
FATTOC Iceland
Adalstraeti 6
101 Reykjavik
Iceland


From randy at psg.com  Thu Nov 26 06:21:47 2009
From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:21:47 +0900
Subject: [rancid]  freebsd, tcl and expect
Message-ID: <m2vdgx3ix0.wl%randy@psg.com>

freebsd am64 8-current

there is now a vulnerabilty warning for tcl-8.3.5_8, the one that is
frozen on my system as that release bypasses the good old expect hang.
is it safe to upgrade yet?

randy

From ronnij at gmail.com  Thu Nov 26 12:30:46 2009
From: ronnij at gmail.com (Ronni Jensen)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:30:46 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  Problems retrieving configs with rancid-run
Message-ID: <7a76d30f0911260430k4a9d4cd7oa2729ca09f1d13dd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I hope you can help me getting rancid to work.

When I run "bin/clogin 10.10.10.10" from rancid homedir, it logs into the
target switch and enters enable mode - autoenable is set to 1. But after a
little while, it disconnects again with message:

---
*Switch10#
Error: TIMEOUT reached*
---

When I run "bin/rancid-run switches", where switches is the group where
10.10.10.10 - and only that one switch for now - resides, I get the
following in logfile:



*starting: Thu Nov 26 12:33:19 CET 2009*
**
*Trying to get all of the configs.
10.10.10.10 clogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
10.10.10.10: missed cmd(s): admin show diag,dir /all slavedisk2:,show rsp
chassis-info,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all disk1:,
show gsr chassis,dir /all sec-nvram:,show diag chassis-info,dir /all
disk2:,dir /all sec-bootflash:,show spe version,dir /all slaves
lot2:,dir /all disk0:,show install active,show bootvar,dir /all
slaveslot0:,dir /all sec-slot1:,dir /all harddiska:,dir /all slavenv
ram:,show flash,dir /all sec-disk2:,dir /all slavesup-bootflash:,dir /all
sec-disk0:,dir /all harddiskb:,show variables boot,show bo
ot,show inventory raw,dir /all slavedisk1:,show env all,show module,admin
show env all,show controllers,admin show version,show diag
bus,more system:running-config,dir /all slavedisk0:,show debug,show idprom
backplane,dir /all bootflash:,dir /all sec-slot0:,dir /al
l sec-disk1:,write term,show vtp status,dir /all sup-bootflash:,dir /all
slot2:,dir /all harddisk:,dir /all slot0:,dir /all sup-micr
ocode:,show vlan,dir /all slavebootflash:,show controllers cbus,dir /all
slaveslot1:,dir /all nvram:,show version,show vlan-switch,a
dmin show variables boot,show redundancy secondary,show running-config,show
c7200,dir /all slot1:
10.10.10.10: End of run not found
!
=====================================
Getting missed routers: round 1.
10.10.10.10 clogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
10.10.10.10: missed cmd(s): admin show diag,dir /all slavedisk2:,show rsp
chassis-info,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all disk1:,
show gsr chassis,dir /all sec-nvram:,show diag chassis-info,dir /all
disk2:,dir /all sec-bootflash:,show spe version,dir /all slaves
lot2:,dir /all disk0:,show install active,show bootvar,dir /all
slaveslot0:,dir /all sec-slot1:,dir /all harddiska:,dir /all slavenv
ram:,show flash,dir /all sec-disk2:,dir /all slavesup-bootflash:,dir /all
sec-disk0:,dir /all harddiskb:,show variables boot,show bo
ot,show inventory raw,dir /all slavedisk1:,show env all,show module,admin
show env all,show controllers,admin show version,show diag
bus,more system:running-config,dir /all slavedisk0:,show debug,show idprom
backplane,dir /all bootflash:,dir /all sec-slot0:,dir /al
l sec-disk1:,write term,show vtp status,dir /all sup-bootflash:,dir /all
slot2:,dir /all harddisk:,dir /all slot0:,dir /all sup-micr
ocode:,show vlan,dir /all slavebootflash:,show controllers cbus,dir /all
slaveslot1:,dir /all nvram:,show version,show vlan-switch,a
dmin show variables boot,show redundancy secondary,show running-config,show
c7200,dir /all slot1:
10.10.10.10: End of run not found
!
=====================================
Getting missed routers: round 2.
10.10.10.10 clogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
10.10.10.10: missed cmd(s): admin show diag,dir /all slavedisk2:,show rsp
chassis-info,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all disk1:,
show gsr chassis,dir /all sec-nvram:,show diag chassis-info,dir /all
disk2:,dir /all sec-bootflash:,show spe version,dir /all slaves
lot2:,dir /all disk0:,show install active,show bootvar,dir /all
slaveslot0:,dir /all sec-slot1:,dir /all harddiska:,dir /all slavenv
ram:,show flash,dir /all sec-disk2:,dir /all slavesup-bootflash:,dir /all
sec-disk0:,dir /all harddiskb:,show variables boot,show bo
ot,show inventory raw,dir /all slavedisk1:,show env all,show module,admin
show env all,show controllers,admin show version,show diag
bus,more system:running-config,dir /all slavedisk0:,show debug,show idprom
backplane,dir /all bootflash:,dir /all sec-slot0:,dir /al
l sec-disk1:,write term,show vtp status,dir /all sup-bootflash:,dir /all
slot2:,dir /all harddisk:,dir /all slot0:,dir /all sup-micr
ocode:,show vlan,dir /all slavebootflash:,show controllers cbus,dir /all
slaveslot1:,dir /all nvram:,show version,show vlan-switch,a
dmin show variables boot,show redundancy secondary,show running-config,show
c7200,dir /all slot1:
10.10.10.10: End of run not found
!
=====================================
Getting missed routers: round 3.
10.10.10.10 clogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
10.10.10.10: missed cmd(s): admin show diag,dir /all slavedisk2:,show rsp
chassis-info,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all disk1:,
show gsr chassis,dir /all sec-nvram:,show diag chassis-info,dir /all
disk2:,dir /all sec-bootflash:,show spe version,dir /all slaves
lot2:,dir /all disk0:,show install active,show bootvar,dir /all
slaveslot0:,dir /all sec-slot1:,dir /all harddiska:,dir /all slavenv
ram:,show flash,dir /all sec-disk2:,dir /all slavesup-bootflash:,dir /all
sec-disk0:,dir /all harddiskb:,show variables boot,show bo
ot,show inventory raw,dir /all slavedisk1:,show env all,show module,admin
show env all,show controllers,admin show version,show diag
bus,more system:running-config,dir /all slavedisk0:,show debug,show idprom
backplane,dir /all bootflash:,dir /all sec-slot0:,dir /al
l sec-disk1:,write term,show vtp status,dir /all sup-bootflash:,dir /all
slot2:,dir /all harddisk:,dir /all slot0:,dir /all sup-micr
ocode:,show vlan,dir /all slavebootflash:,show controllers cbus,dir /all
slaveslot1:,dir /all nvram:,show version,show vlan-switch,a
dmin show variables boot,show redundancy secondary,show running-config,show
c7200,dir /all slot1:
10.10.10.10: End of run not found
!
=====================================
Getting missed routers: round 4.
10.10.10.10 clogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached
10.10.10.10: missed cmd(s): admin show diag,dir /all slavedisk2:,show rsp
chassis-info,dir /all sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all disk1:,
show gsr chassis,dir /all sec-nvram:,show diag chassis-info,dir /all
disk2:,dir /all sec-bootflash:,show spe version,dir /all slaves
lot2:,dir /all disk0:,show install active,show bootvar,dir /all
slaveslot0:,dir /all sec-slot1:,dir /all harddiska:,dir /all slavenv
ram:,show flash,dir /all sec-disk2:,dir /all slavesup-bootflash:,dir /all
sec-disk0:,dir /all harddiskb:,show variables boot,show bo
ot,show inventory raw,dir /all slavedisk1:,show env all,show module,admin
show env all,show controllers,admin show version,show diag
bus,more system:running-config,dir /all slavedisk0:,show debug,show idprom
backplane,dir /all bootflash:,dir /all sec-slot0:,dir /al
l sec-disk1:,write term,show vtp status,dir /all sup-bootflash:,dir /all
slot2:,dir /all harddisk:,dir /all slot0:,dir /all sup-micr
ocode:,show vlan,dir /all slavebootflash:,show controllers cbus,dir /all
slaveslot1:,dir /all nvram:,show version,show vlan-switch,a
dmin show variables boot,show redundancy secondary,show running-config,show
c7200,dir /all slot1:
10.10.10.10: End of run not found
!*
*cvs diff: Diffing .
cvs diff: Diffing configs
cvs commit: Examining .
cvs commit: Examining configs*
*ending: Thu Nov 26 12:40:58 CET 2009*




Any ideas how to solve the problem? I am using:

- Fedora release 12 (Constantine)
- rancid 2.3.2
- expect-5.43.0-19.fc12.i686 (installed from yum)
- tcl-8.5.7-4.fc12.i686 (installed from yum)

Best regards,
Ronni
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From froztbyte at froztbyte.net  Thu Nov 26 14:08:29 2009
From: froztbyte at froztbyte.net (JP Viljoen)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:08:29 +0200
Subject: [rancid]  RANCID sending email address
Message-ID: <200911261609.43810.froztbyte@froztbyte.net>

Hi

Is it possible to change the address from which RANCID sends out email? 
Additionally so for changes on multiple host groups.

-J

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JP Viljoen | @froztbyte
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From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Nov 27 05:39:09 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:39:09 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: RANCID sending email address
In-Reply-To: <200911261609.43810.froztbyte@froztbyte.net>
References: <200911261609.43810.froztbyte@froztbyte.net>
Message-ID: <20091127053909.GH22013@shrubbery.net>

Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 04:08:29PM +0200, JP Viljoen:
> Hi
> 
> Is it possible to change the address from which RANCID sends out email? 
> Additionally so for changes on multiple host groups.

no, though some MTAs have address mapping functions.

From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Nov 27 06:41:15 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:41:15 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: freebsd, tcl and expect
In-Reply-To: <m2vdgx3ix0.wl%randy@psg.com>
References: <m2vdgx3ix0.wl%randy@psg.com>
Message-ID: <20091127064115.GL22013@shrubbery.net>

Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:21:47PM +0900, Randy Bush:
> freebsd am64 8-current
> 
> there is now a vulnerabilty warning for tcl-8.3.5_8, the one that is
> frozen on my system as that release bypasses the good old expect hang.
> is it safe to upgrade yet?

it a tcl-freebsd bug; if its been fixed, you can upgrade.

From randy at psg.com  Fri Nov 27 13:27:05 2009
From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:27:05 +0900
Subject: [rancid] Re: freebsd, tcl and expect
In-Reply-To: <20091127064115.GL22013@shrubbery.net>
References: <m2vdgx3ix0.wl%randy@psg.com>
	<20091127064115.GL22013@shrubbery.net>
Message-ID: <m2k4xcxfme.wl%randy@psg.com>

>> freebsd am64 8-current
>> 
>> there is now a vulnerabilty warning for tcl-8.3.5_8, the one that is
>> frozen on my system as that release bypasses the good old expect
>> hang.  is it safe to upgrade yet?
> 
> it a tcl-freebsd bug; if its been fixed, you can upgrade.

even i figgerd that out :)

i was wondering if any fellow freebsd users had tried a newew tcl,
e.g. 8.4.19 or 8.5.8 or 8.6.b.1, and would be willing to declare it
usable.

randy

From hank at rem.com  Fri Nov 27 18:13:49 2009
From: hank at rem.com (Hank Kilmer)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:13:49 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: freebsd, tcl and expect
In-Reply-To: <m2k4xcxfme.wl%randy@psg.com>
References: <m2vdgx3ix0.wl%randy@psg.com>	<20091127064115.GL22013@shrubbery.net>
	<m2k4xcxfme.wl%randy@psg.com>
Message-ID: <4B1016DD.9060107@rem.com>

I'm getting ready to try it out next week.  if you can wait a few days,
I'll report back.

-Hank

Randy Bush wrote:
>>> freebsd am64 8-current
>>>
>>> there is now a vulnerabilty warning for tcl-8.3.5_8, the one that is
>>> frozen on my system as that release bypasses the good old expect
>>> hang.  is it safe to upgrade yet?
>> it a tcl-freebsd bug; if its been fixed, you can upgrade.
> 
> even i figgerd that out :)
> 
> i was wondering if any fellow freebsd users had tried a newew tcl,
> e.g. 8.4.19 or 8.5.8 or 8.6.b.1, and would be willing to declare it
> usable.
> 
> randy
> _______________________________________________
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From mv652 at softhome.net  Fri Nov 27 18:30:30 2009
From: mv652 at softhome.net (mv652 at softhome.net)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:30:30 -0700
Subject: [rancid]  Applying Expect Patch Manually
Message-ID: <courier.4B101AC6.000076E8@softhome.net>

Hello, 

Please excuse this mail if this has been answered before, but I have 
completed a new rancid install and only need to apply the expect patch 
(running on Linux). 

Could someone please provide the syntax to apply the patch manually? 

I'm running expect 5.43 on CentOS. 

 

Thank you,
Mario 


From randy at psg.com  Fri Nov 27 21:35:08 2009
From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:35:08 +0900
Subject: [rancid] Re: freebsd, tcl and expect
In-Reply-To: <4B1016DD.9060107@rem.com>
References: <m2vdgx3ix0.wl%randy@psg.com>
	<20091127064115.GL22013@shrubbery.net>
	<m2k4xcxfme.wl%randy@psg.com> <4B1016DD.9060107@rem.com>
Message-ID: <m23a3zy7lf.wl%randy@psg.com>

> I'm getting ready to try it out next week.  if you can wait a few days,
> I'll report back.

no rush at all

randy

From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Nov 27 21:41:03 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:41:03 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: freebsd, tcl and expect
In-Reply-To: <m2k4xcxfme.wl%randy@psg.com>
References: <m2vdgx3ix0.wl%randy@psg.com>
	<20091127064115.GL22013@shrubbery.net>
	<m2k4xcxfme.wl%randy@psg.com>
Message-ID: <20091127214103.GA20700@shrubbery.net>

Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:27:05PM +0900, Randy Bush:
> >> freebsd am64 8-current
> >> 
> >> there is now a vulnerabilty warning for tcl-8.3.5_8, the one that is
> >> frozen on my system as that release bypasses the good old expect
> >> hang.  is it safe to upgrade yet?
> > 
> > it a tcl-freebsd bug; if its been fixed, you can upgrade.
> 
> even i figgerd that out :)

sorry, i dont smoke fbsd.  have a look at the release notes for the
recent tcl/expects and the ports commit comments for them.

> i was wondering if any fellow freebsd users had tried a newew tcl,
> e.g. 8.4.19 or 8.5.8 or 8.6.b.1, and would be willing to declare it
> usable.
> 
> randy

From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Nov 27 21:53:57 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:53:57 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Rancid output "Binary files differ"
In-Reply-To: <59381F7E-E1AE-4D3D-B626-787C62337EF7@fattoc.com>
References: <9D5A3076-A17A-4EEC-B24C-8EDD25E710DC@fattoc.com>
	<20091125194110.GL13089@shrubbery.net>
	<59381F7E-E1AE-4D3D-B626-787C62337EF7@fattoc.com>
Message-ID: <20091127215357.GI7853@shrubbery.net>

Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:46:42PM +0000, ?rni Birgisson:
> Hi John, thanks for your reply.
> 
> > 
> > not likely.  do you have a fsys or memory problem on this host?  broken
> > expect/tcl?  some other unintentional change to rancid?
> 
> I don't believe there is any problem with the server itself, no errors in dmesg concerning
> hard disks or filesystems (mirrored disks), and 6GB free memory of total 8GB.
> Very little load on the server, and other processes running on it are working fine.
> 
> expect and tcl are newest versions from YUM,
> -- snip --
> Package 1:tcl-8.5.6-6.fc11.x86_64 already installed and latest version
> Package expect-5.43.0-17.fc11.x86_64 already installed and latest version
> -- snip --
> 
> And this behaviour is not constant, I have seen it from time to time with other routers, but
> most of the time it's this one. Still not always on this one either - usually the backups come
> through correct.

that'd lead me to believe its timing-based and most likely related to
expect reading portions of the input buffer, but thats a WAG.  could
be a number of things.

the easiest thing to try is get the lastest tcl and expect, apply the
expect patch from the rancid website and compile them yourself.

> - Arni
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:41 PM, john heasley wrote:
> 
> > Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:39:20AM +0000, ?rni Birgisson:
> >> Hi guys,
> >> 
> >> I'm wondering if anybody has seen this problem before.
> >> This mail is going to be a bit long, starting with a simple description of the problem,
> >> and then my diagnosis of it.
> >> 
> >>> From time to time I'm getting a strange output from RANCID:
> >> 
> >> -----
> >> 
> >> Index: configs/router-x
> >> ===================================================================
> >> retrieving revision 1.88
> >> diff -U 4 -r1.88 router-x
> >> Binary files /tmp/cvsQSyJ8S and router-x differ
> >> 
> >> -----
> >> 
> >> As I noticed that the revision number was quite high I looked around and it seems that this
> >> does happen for more than one router - but happens very often to this one.
> >> Most of the network equipment has had about 30-40 revisions since RANCID was installed
> >> but this one has 88 revisions.
> >> 
> >> If I check a few versions of the config out of CVS I can see that indeed some of the files are weird.
> >> 
> >> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.89
> >> --normal diff output showing config changes--
> >> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.87
> >> --normal diff output showing config changes--
> >> -bash-4.0$ cvs diff -r1.86 -r1.88
> >> cvs diff: Diffing pe
> >> cvs diff: Diffing pe/configs
> >> Index: pe/configs/router-x
> >> ===================================================================
> >> RCS file: /var/rancid/CVS/pe/configs/router-x,v
> >> retrieving revision 1.86
> >> retrieving revision 1.88
> >> diff -r1.86 -r1.88
> >> Binary files /tmp/cvsCqpVfB and /tmp/cvsp09kv5 differ
> >> 
> >> Okay, looks like version 1.88 is the weird one.
> >> 
> >> Let's fetch 1.88 and 1.89
> >> -bash-4.0$ cvs co -r1.88 pe/configs/router-x
> >> U pe/configs/router-x
> >> -bash-4.0$ cp pe/configs/router-x v1.88
> >> -bash-4.0$ cvs co -r1.89 pe/configs/router-x
> >> U pe/configs/router-x
> >> -bash-4.0$ cp pe/configs/router-x v1.89
> >> 
> >> -bash-4.0$ ls -al v1.8*
> >> -rw-r--r-x 1 rancid rancid 70556 2009-11-25 05:28 v1.88
> >> -rw-r--r-x 1 rancid rancid 70556 2009-11-25 05:28 v1.89
> >> -bash-4.0$ diff v1.88 v1.89
> >> Binary files v1.88 and v1.89 differ
> >> -bash-4.0$ 
> >> 
> >> --- same size of the files, but diff won't compare them because they are (or one of them is) a binary file.
> >> 
> >> -bash-4.0$ strings v1.88 | wc -l
> >> 1387
> >> -bash-4.0$ strings v1.89 | wc -l
> >> 1542
> >> 
> >> Now when I have a look at the files it seems that the smaller file (v1.88 and "binary") starts with a lot of \0 bytes,
> >> it would seem one for each character that is missing - and then continues exactly like the other one.
> >> Or should I say the files are exactly the same - but it's as if the first (1542 - 1387) bytes of v1.88 are 0-byte instead
> >> of the character that should be there.
> >> 
> >> Diff --text on them shows that v1.89 includes all the lines from v1.88 and more and there has been no real
> >> change to the config.
> >> 
> >> I'm running rancid version 2.3.2, with a slight change to jrancid:
> >> The change to jrancid is to make it backup a "show configuration | display set" version of the config as well as the
> >> normal "show configuration" and is done by adding one function:
> >> 
> >> sub ShowConfigurationDisplaySet {
> >>    print STDERR "    In ShowConfigurationDisplaySet: $_" if ($debug);
> >> 
> >>    s/^[a-z]+@//;
> >>    ProcessHistory("","","","# $_");
> >>    while (<INPUT>) {
> >>        tr/\015//d;
> >>        last if (/^$prompt/);
> >>        next if (/^system (shutdown message from|going down )/i);
> >>        next if (/^\{(master|backup)}/);
> >> 
> >>        /Unrecognized command/ && return;
> >>        /command is not valid/ && return;
> >>        /^\s+\^/ && return;
> >>        /syntax error/ && return;
> >> 
> >>        ProcessHistory("","","","$_");
> >>    }
> >>    return(0);
> >> }
> >> 
> >> 
> >> and one item to @commandtable:
> >>        {'show configuration | display set'     => 'ShowConfigurationDisplaySet'},
> >> 
> >> It could very well be that the errors are introduced because of my addition,
> >> but I fail to see how.
> > 
> > not likely.  do you have a fsys or memory problem on this host?  broken
> > expect/tcl?  some other unintentional change to rancid?
> 
> 
> 
> Arni Birgisson	
> Network Engineer
> FATTOC Iceland
> Adalstraeti 6
> 101 Reykjavik
> Iceland

From vishal.ud at directi.com  Mon Nov 30 11:50:06 2009
From: vishal.ud at directi.com (vishal.ud)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:20:06 +0530
Subject: [rancid]  Running rancid as a deamon
Message-ID: <4B13B16E.8080501@directi.com>

I was wondering if this is possible since the advantages wud be as below
1) instant notifications if changes made unlike waiting for the cron runs
 2) eliminates the dependency on the cron if it fails to run



From arussos at comune.modena.it  Mon Nov 30 16:07:34 2009
From: arussos at comune.modena.it (Andrea)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:07:34 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  Help on Enterasys switches
Message-ID: <4B13EDC6.2030206@comune.modena.it>

Hi all, i'm successfully using rancid to store the configs of 4 Core 
L3-Switches of Enterasys ( ER16 ); now i'm trying to use rancid against 
other enterasys switches ( secire stack B2/B3 ).
Now, the command-line commands differs a bit from that on ER16; in  that 
case i believe rancid-run  use  the perl script  rivrancid in 
conjunction  with  the expect one named rivlogin to do it'wrork.

Now, as the switches have different cli commands i got an expect script 
with which i correctly mange to login to the switch; but when i run 
rancid-run the rancid log file says:

.....
Trying to get all of the configs.
10.0.6.12: missed cmd(s): system show hardware,system show 
version,system show active-config,system show uptime
10.0.6.12: End of run not found
.....

beeing the 10.0.6.12 the IP address.

So, i suppose i need to modify the perl script rivrancid, is it right ??

Some one have ever use rancid with enterasys swithces and, if yes, could 
help me in pointing to the right direction in getting so far ??

I need to understand which is the way to use rancid also with others 
swithces like Allied Telesys ones...

Thanks a lot in advance,


--Andrea

From cgauthier at mapscu.com  Mon Nov 30 17:14:36 2009
From: cgauthier at mapscu.com (Chris Gauthier)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:14:36 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Running rancid as a deamon
In-Reply-To: <4B13B16E.8080501@directi.com>
References: <4B13B16E.8080501@directi.com>
Message-ID: <0A9A5A2BC1C0A94C981AF5FCF2D2F338146F0B05@mshin01.mapscu.com>

I don't see how it is feasible to run rancid as a daemon since that is
not how is was designed.  What I mean is rancid was designed to run on a
periodic basis and it would time out during periods of no changes.
Others have gained a more "near realtime" performance by integrating
rancid with other NMS products or invoking it based on SNMP traps.  I
don't believe it is even possible to run rancid as a daemon without it
quitting in just a short amount of time.  Do you really need the
realtime changelogs?  Is your equipment really changing that often?
When was the last time cron actually failed on you?

If you are worried about cron failure, then you might consider writing a
script invoked by cron that a) 'touch /tmp/some_dummy_filename b)
executes rancid.  Next, you would have to have a daemon that checks for
the existence of the /tmp/some_dummy_filename file and also compares its
timestamp to the current time.  If it was beyond a certain age, you
could then invoke rancid again.  This daemon would ideally run as the
rancid user.

Complicated?  Yep.  Is there a simpler way?  Probably.  Am I worried
about cron failure?  No.  I have never seen cron fail because of a
problem with cron.  My cron failures have all been self-induced.

Good luck!

Chris Gauthier

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:50 AM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Running rancid as a deamon

I was wondering if this is possible since the advantages wud be as below
1) instant notifications if changes made unlike waiting for the cron
runs
 2) eliminates the dependency on the cron if it fails to run


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From heas at shrubbery.net  Mon Nov 30 18:15:44 2009
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:15:44 -0800
Subject: [rancid] Re: Running rancid as a deamon
In-Reply-To: <4B13B16E.8080501@directi.com>
References: <4B13B16E.8080501@directi.com>
Message-ID: <20091130181544.GG12964@shrubbery.net>

Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 05:20:06PM +0530, vishal.ud:
> I was wondering if this is possible since the advantages wud be as below

i don't know what "wud" is.

> 1) instant notifications if changes made unlike waiting for the cron runs

see the faq for a way to do that.

>  2) eliminates the dependency on the cron if it fails to run

i think you far more problems if you can't even rely upon cron.  perhaps
try a more stable o/s.

From vishal.ud at directi.com  Mon Nov 30 18:34:53 2009
From: vishal.ud at directi.com (vishal.ud)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:04:53 +0530
Subject: [rancid] Re: Running rancid as a deamon
In-Reply-To: <0A9A5A2BC1C0A94C981AF5FCF2D2F338146F0B05@mshin01.mapscu.com>
References: <4B13B16E.8080501@directi.com>
	<0A9A5A2BC1C0A94C981AF5FCF2D2F338146F0B05@mshin01.mapscu.com>
Message-ID: <4B14104D.70603@directi.com>

Chris ,
Thank you for your comprehensive reply . Well i donot need the realtime 
change as such and no the configs donot change that often either Well im 
gonna look into integrating NMS with rancid(since we already have a 
local deployment)
Thanks again for your help


Chris Gauthier wrote:
> I don't see how it is feasible to run rancid as a daemon since that is
> not how is was designed.  What I mean is rancid was designed to run on a
> periodic basis and it would time out during periods of no changes.
> Others have gained a more "near realtime" performance by integrating
> rancid with other NMS products or invoking it based on SNMP traps.  I
> don't believe it is even possible to run rancid as a daemon without it
> quitting in just a short amount of time.  Do you really need the
> realtime changelogs?  Is your equipment really changing that often?
> When was the last time cron actually failed on you?
>
> If you are worried about cron failure, then you might consider writing a
> script invoked by cron that a) 'touch /tmp/some_dummy_filename b)
> executes rancid.  Next, you would have to have a daemon that checks for
> the existence of the /tmp/some_dummy_filename file and also compares its
> timestamp to the current time.  If it was beyond a certain age, you
> could then invoke rancid again.  This daemon would ideally run as the
> rancid user.
>
> Complicated?  Yep.  Is there a simpler way?  Probably.  Am I worried
> about cron failure?  No.  I have never seen cron fail because of a
> problem with cron.  My cron failures have all been self-induced.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Chris Gauthier
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of vishal.ud
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:50 AM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Running rancid as a deamon
>
> I was wondering if this is possible since the advantages wud be as below
> 1) instant notifications if changes made unlike waiting for the cron
> runs
>  2) eliminates the dependency on the cron if it fails to run
>
>
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From wbrown at qualcomm.com  Mon Nov 30 18:41:50 2009
From: wbrown at qualcomm.com (Brown IV, Bill (MFT))
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:41:50 -0800
Subject: [rancid]  Backing Up Cisco ACE Modules
Message-ID: <74A76F5DF2E5124CBE0396FD39D1718607CC33A1B2@NALASEXMB03.na.qualcomm.com>

Hello all,

I've been trying to backup the Cisco ACE but Rancid seems to time out during the connection.  I think it has to do with the pager.  On the ACE, every time I login the pager gets set back to its default.  Logging in and then setting 'term length 0' only works for the session.  After Rancid logs out, the pager gets reset.

Scenario: I can login to the device using clogin.  Issuing a 'show run' from there reveals that the pager is set, (noted by the --more-- prompt).  I set 'term length 0' and 'sho run' completes with no pager.  Logging out and then back in reveals that the pager is once again set.  Using the rancid script with -d, the last output is:

HIT COMMAND:<device>/Admin#show running-config
    In WriteTerm: <device>/Admin#show running-config
HIT COMMAND: <device>/Admin#write term
    In WriteTerm: <device>/Admin#write term
<device>: End of run not found
<device>: End of run not found

My assumption is that somehow Rancid is expecting the enable prompt but not getting it because of the pager.  I looked at the rancid script but I'm just not proficient enough to know where to hard code a 'term length 0' and I definitely don't want to change the behavior for other devices, (I don't want to "mess up").  Does anyone have a piece of code that will accomplish this?

If possible, if you have it, I would really like to backup all the contexts within the ACE as well.

Thanks,
Bill
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From NMaio at guesswho.com  Mon Nov 30 18:56:00 2009
From: NMaio at guesswho.com (NMaio at guesswho.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:56:00 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: Backing Up Cisco ACE Modules
In-Reply-To: <74A76F5DF2E5124CBE0396FD39D1718607CC33A1B2@NALASEXMB03.na.qualcomm.com>
References: <74A76F5DF2E5124CBE0396FD39D1718607CC33A1B2@NALASEXMB03.na.qualcomm.com>
Message-ID: <2AA600764E54964491083B1E0EC81A302F87497A3B@EXCLUS.nationala-1advertising.com>

Bill,
I have been backing up our ACE modules for a while now.  I had to seriously modify a script to make it work (I am not a developer so please excuse) and I am only concerned about the config and the fault tolerance info (this helps to know if one has failed over)



I will send the script off list but remember you need to add the appropriate lines to rancid-fe for the new device type:



elsif ($vendor =~ /^ace$/i)             { exec('acerancid', $router); }



and I used "add autoenable" in .cloginrc.


Let me know if you have any questions.
Nick



From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Brown IV, Bill (MFT)
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:42 PM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Backing Up Cisco ACE Modules

Hello all,

I've been trying to backup the Cisco ACE but Rancid seems to time out during the connection.  I think it has to do with the pager.  On the ACE, every time I login the pager gets set back to its default.  Logging in and then setting 'term length 0' only works for the session.  After Rancid logs out, the pager gets reset.

Scenario: I can login to the device using clogin.  Issuing a 'show run' from there reveals that the pager is set, (noted by the --more-- prompt).  I set 'term length 0' and 'sho run' completes with no pager.  Logging out and then back in reveals that the pager is once again set.  Using the rancid script with -d, the last output is:

HIT COMMAND:<device>/Admin#show running-config
    In WriteTerm: <device>/Admin#show running-config
HIT COMMAND: <device>/Admin#write term
    In WriteTerm: <device>/Admin#write term
<device>: End of run not found
<device>: End of run not found

My assumption is that somehow Rancid is expecting the enable prompt but not getting it because of the pager.  I looked at the rancid script but I'm just not proficient enough to know where to hard code a 'term length 0' and I definitely don't want to change the behavior for other devices, (I don't want to "mess up").  Does anyone have a piece of code that will accomplish this?

If possible, if you have it, I would really like to backup all the contexts within the ACE as well.

Thanks,
Bill
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