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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">OK, that is solved too, I think, but still getting a series of errors:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.14.250 clogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.14.250: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show version,show system-information,write term,show system information<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.14.250: End of run not found<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.11.218: missed cmd(s): show configuration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.11.218: End of run not found<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Getting missed routers: round 4.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Received signal - ending run (1).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">/usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: 461: /usr/lib/rancid/bin/control_rancid: cannot create /tmp/tmp.EACqI3Q2IP/rancid.MVSNetwork.14801.diff: Directory nonexistent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">cvs diff: Diffing .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">cvs diff: Diffing configs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">cvs commit: Examining .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">cvs commit: Examining configs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Ryan Milton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">MVS Network Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">o: 201-447-1505 x124<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">c: 862-249-5230<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [mailto:willie.s.hinote@nasa.gov]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 10:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek<br>
<b>Cc:</b> rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [rancid] Permissions errors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You can set autoenable X.X.X.X 1 in your cloginrc stanzas. Or you can specify your enable password on the same line as your password as password X.X.X.X {password}
{enable_password}.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan Milton [<a href="mailto:rmilton@mvsusa.com">mailto:rmilton@mvsusa.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 9:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]; Aaron Dudek<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net">rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [rancid] Permissions errors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I’m wondering, if the issue may have to do with the login procedure. Typically we login directly into enable mode, not into operator mode. If the script is looking to do it the traditional way, would that cause
the error too?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Because, I can login via ssh to the HP switch in question from the rancid sever.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">When I run this script (vs an ssh –v login that works):
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">/usr/lib/rancid/bin/hlogin -f /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc 94.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.11.92<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Error: no enable password for 94.229.11.92 in /var/lib/rancid/.cloginrc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Ryan Milton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">MVS Network Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">o: 201-447-1505 x124<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">c: 862-249-5230<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://www.mvsusa.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.mvsusa.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><img border="0" width="192" height="76" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image005.jpg@01CEB077.B4D8B1A0" alt="MVS final logo GOOD very small"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] [<a href="mailto:willie.s.hinote@nasa.gov">mailto:willie.s.hinote@nasa.gov</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 10:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Milton; Aaron Dudek<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net">rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [rancid] Permissions errors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Timeout reached usually indicates that the server is not able to establish a connection to the device due to routing, firewall, etc. Try SSHing from the rancid
server to the device eg. ssh rancid_user@device. Do not use the login scripts. You can also increase the verbose output of SSH by specifying the -v flag. If you cannot SSH to the device then the rancid scripts will not work either but it rules out rancid as
the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan Milton [<a href="mailto:rmilton@mvsusa.com">mailto:rmilton@mvsusa.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 9:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Aaron Dudek; Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net">rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [rancid] Permissions errors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Ok, I attempted this a few times:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Trying to get all of the configs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.11.92 clogin error: Error: TIMEOUT reached<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.11.92: missed cmd(s): show stack,show module,show flash,show version,show system-information,write term,show system information<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">94.229.11.92: End of run not found<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">And then the /.MVSNetwork.run.lock happens again<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Ryan Milton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">MVS Network Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">o: 201-447-1505 x124<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">c: 862-249-5230<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://www.mvsusa.com/"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.mvsusa.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><img border="0" width="192" height="76" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image005.jpg@01CEB077.B4D8B1A0" alt="MVS final logo GOOD very small"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Aaron Dudek [<a href="mailto:adudek16@gmail.com">mailto:adudek16@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 9:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS]<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ryan Milton; <a href="mailto:rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net">rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rancid] Permissions errors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Hinote, Scotty (MSFC-IS40)[NICS] <<a href="mailto:willie.s.hinote@nasa.gov" target="_blank">willie.s.hinote@nasa.gov</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would try removing the lock file and execute rancid-run again.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces@shrubbery.net" target="_blank">rancid-discuss-bounces@shrubbery.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces@shrubbery.net" target="_blank">rancid-discuss-bounces@shrubbery.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Milton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 8:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net" target="_blank">rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [rancid] Permissions errors</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">What is the possible solution to this:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is this yet another permissions issue?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.MVSNetwork.run.lock exists<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">-rw-r----- 1 rancid rancid 0 Sep 12 17:08 /tmp/.MVSNetwork.run.lock<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Ryan Milton</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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