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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi Alan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">See comments below <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckinnon@gmail.com] <br>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:41 AM<br>
To: Shaun Krok <Shaun.Krok@888holdings.com>; rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net<br>
Cc: Nati Danan <Nati.Danan@888holdings.com><br>
Subject: Re: [rancid] F5 Rancid | BIGIP 12.0 | missed cmd(s)</p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Shaun,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Usually setting PATH correctly is enough, but I don't think that is your
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<p class="MsoPlainText">problem. To check that I understand the problem correctly:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">All your devices work correctly except BIGIP 12. Even BIGIP 11 works
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<p class="MsoPlainText">properly. BIGIP 12 fails from a cronjob but works correctly from the
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<p class="MsoPlainText">command line as rancid user. This then excludes mistakes in router.db<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:red">Correct? Yes but only with using the TERM=vt100-w for BIGIP 11.6 in f5rancid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:red">Seems TERM=vt100-w not working in 12.0 even though the diff spits out the following in 11.6 it still works<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:red"> #<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:red">+ #Warning, can't fully initialize terminal, TERM is set to "vt100-w", status (0)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:red"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:red">This is the case for 11 and 12 of BIGIP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:red"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:red">What is important to note is that when the cluster is in SYNC meaning the prompt is shorter and rancid runs against the cluster --- no issues and no missed cmd(s) in the log !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Nothing in cron or the environment strikes me as being unique to the
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<p class="MsoPlainText">BIGIP 12. For completeness, what is in the rancid user's environment in
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<p class="MsoPlainText">a regular login shell?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">If that doesn't reveal anything useful, I'd generate .raw files for both
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<p class="MsoPlainText">device types and compare them. Then read those files directly into
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<p class="MsoPlainText">rancid; at some point a difference in behaviour must show up<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">On 12/09/2016 10:24, Shaun Krok wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Thanks Alan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Always have been running as *user* = rancid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> [rancid@Rancid bin]$ whoami<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Rancid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> # Check every 30 mins<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> */30 * * * * /usr/local/rancid/bin/rancid-run &<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> What do you suggest with regards setting up the cron environment for rancid --- never had to prior BIGIP 12.0 and all other device types: Cisco, Juniper, Riverbed , F5 working 100%<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">> -----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> From: Rancid-discuss [<a href="mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces@shrubbery.net"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces@shrubbery.net</span></a>] On Behalf Of Alan McKinnon<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:15 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> To: <a href="mailto:rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Subject: Re: [rancid] F5 Rancid | BIGIP 12.0 | missed cmd(s)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> This problem almost always comes down to the usual issues with cron:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> - cron runs from a non-interactive non-login shell, meaning that the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> environment is empty (the environment being nothing more than a handy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> *user* convenience). Make sure your cron env is set up correctly and<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> don't run ./rancid-run, specify the full correct path<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> - which user's cron is this in? It must go in rancid's crontab, not<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> root. If this is the case with your site, make sure you chown all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> relevant data files back to the rancid user as some of them will now be<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> owned by root<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> On 12/09/2016 09:17, Shaun Krok wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Hi<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> I have tried to look into forums where other users of rancid experience the same issue but could not find anything !<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Our issue as follows :<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> We have been running rancid successfully against F5 LTM clusters (HA) for a few years now.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> The issue with partitions and TMSH was resolved and we have had no issues accept with the recent upgrade to BIGIP image : BIG-IP 12.0.0<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> The issue is below.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> What we have noticed that if we use the cli command : ./rancid-run -r lon-f5-pri GLN & the collection has no issues, diff is done, entered into CVS and emails received !<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> The problem is when the general cron runs and we receive the below in the logs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Using the NOPIPE I see the .raw file and have looked into the file and do not see any issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> The f5rancid script has been working as I said for years until version 12.0 of BIGIP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> It works against several other production sites but running version 11.6 of BIGIP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> I realize the below is just the process saying there is an issue but if anyone has suggestions would be much appreciated !<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Version of rancid : ## rancid 3.2.99<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> ***************************************<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> a snip of the crontab<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> # Check every 30 mins<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> */30 * * * * /usr/local/rancid/bin/rancid-run &<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> **************************************<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> **************************************<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> A snip of the f5rancid script<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> # tmsh commands, BIGIP v11<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> @tmsh_commandtable = (<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> {'tmsh show /sys version' => 'ShowVersion'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> {'tmsh show /sys hardware' => 'ShowHardware'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> {'tmsh show /sys license' => 'ShowLicense'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> #{'cat /config/ZebOS.conf' => 'ShowZebOSconf'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> #{'lsof -i :179' => 'ShowZebOSsockets'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> {'tmsh show /net route static' => 'ShowRouteStatic'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> #{'ls --full-time --color=never /config/ssl/ssl.crt' => 'ShowSslCrt'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> #{'ls --full-time --color=never /config/ssl/ssl.key' => 'ShowSslKey'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> #{'tmsh -q list' => 'WriteTermTMSH'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> #{'tmsh -q -c /"cd /;list recursive"/' => 'WriteTermTMSH'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> {'./f5part' => 'WriteTermTMSH'},<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> **************************************<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Trying to get all of the configs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-pri: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys hardware<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-sec: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys version,tmsh show /sys hardware,tmsh show /sys license<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> =====================================<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Getting missed routers: round 1.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-sec: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys version,tmsh show /sys hardware,tmsh show /sys license<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-pri: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys hardware<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> =====================================<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Getting missed routers: round 2.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-sec: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys version,tmsh show /sys hardware,tmsh show /sys license<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-pri: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys hardware<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> =====================================<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Getting missed routers: round 3.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-pri: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys hardware<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-sec: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys version,tmsh show /sys hardware,tmsh show /sys license<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> =====================================<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Getting missed routers: round 4.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-sec: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys version,tmsh show /sys hardware,tmsh show /sys license<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> lon-f5-pri: missed cmd(s): tmsh show /net route static,tmsh show /sys hardware<o:p></o:p></p>
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