Newbie install question

[Brett O'Hara]

I worked it out.  create_cvs does NOT cope with manually creating the
directory.  I've adopted Andrew's user stuff which works like a dream, and
now I finally have notification when somone makes changes to our Cisco's (no
more finding out 2 weeks later that something's been messed with and
broken).

Regards,
    Brett

----- Original Message -----
From: "john heasley" <heas at shrubbery.net>
To: "Andrew Fort" <afort at staff.webcentral.com.au>
Cc: "'Brett O'Hara'" <brett at fj.com.au>; <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Newbie install question


> Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:33:47PM +1000, Andrew Fort:
> > >[root at mel1:/usr/local/rancid/logs]$ cat core.20010905.150101
> > >starting: Wed Sep 5 15:01:01 EST 2001
> > >
> > >Trying to get all of the configs.
> > >All routers sucessfully completed.
> > >
> > >cvs diff: in directory .:
> > >cvs [diff aborted]: there is no version here; run 'cvs checkout' first
> > >cvs [commit aborted]: cannot commit files as 'root'
> > >
> > >ending: Wed Sep 5 15:01:12 EST 2001
> > >
> > >Obviously I need to run the scripts as other than root, but
> > >knowing nothing
> > >about cvd, I'm wondering what the cvs checkout stuff is?
> >
> > Brett, it looks like you possibly didn't run
> > /usr/local/rancid/bin/create_cvs once you'd set up the groups you want
(such
> > as 'core') in the /usr/local/rancid/bin/env file (LIST_OF_GROUPS
variable).
> > create_cvs can handle if your directories have already been manually
created
> > (e.g., you manually created /usr/local/rancid/core/), but the
recommended
> > method is to just add to the LIST_OF_GROUPS, then run create_cvs.
> >
> > The way I setup permissions was to create a rancid user (and group),
then
> > set the permissions as (from memory):
> >
> > chgrp -r rancid /usr/local/rancid/
> > chmod g+ws /usr/local/rancid/
> >
> > Then put your admins in the rancid group.
> >
> > The rancid user has its own ~/.cloginrc naturally, and this user is the
one
> > which 'cleans up' after the admins who forget to 'do-diffs' after they
make
> > changes, i.e., from cron (we do it once an hour, if you run less
regularly
> > than that, be aware of the value of OLDTIME in the
/usr/local/rancid/bin/env
> > should be greater than the number of hours between your 'rancid'
cronjobs.
>
> thats a good point!  thanks, i'll be sure to add a note.
>
> > If you're still stuck, try going through the quickstart guide again, I
found
> > it made much more sense the second time...
>
> hmm, if thats the case (as it seems so), please tell us how we might
improve
> the install instructions.  thanks.  also, see the rancid_intro man page.
>
> > -afort
>