From laker_netman at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  1 19:11:36 2007
From: laker_netman at yahoo.com (Laker Netman)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:11:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <919294.44486.qm@web50511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a solution.  Is there one?

I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6


Thanks,
Laker




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From rancid at gheek.net  Wed Aug  1 19:39:20 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 12:39:20 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <20070801123920.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.0f2bbbf8e3.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to do.
Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored. If you
want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I think that
is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect the CVS repo.
So saying that I would say you either keep them or get rid of them with
an option in rancid.conf.

Opinions?

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a solution.  Is there one?
> 
> I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Laker
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From feelgravityspull at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 17:51:24 2007
From: feelgravityspull at gmail.com (feelgravityspull at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:51:24 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Re: rancid-2.3.2a6, clogin and HP Switches
In-Reply-To: <add532410708021033o5df139dbp5d3c52a5be86addc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <add532410708021033o5df139dbp5d3c52a5be86addc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <add532410708021051h54fdcb09j2926691096951aae@mail.gmail.com>

Figured it out, I removed the "\n" line I added to "enable" and removed
the "." and the end of "Press any key to continue" on line 490 of clogin.

-Mark


On 8/2/07, feelgravityspull at gmail.com <feelgravityspull at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just installed the alpha version of rancid and trying to connect to a HP
> ProCurve 5406zl switch.  Using clogin, it works 50% of the time, the other
> 50% if hangs on  the " Press any key to continue" login page.
>
> Has anyone seen this before?
>
> Thanks.
>
> fyi: I had to add a "\n" to line 544 on clogin to send the enable command,
> otherwise just "nable" was sent.
>
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From laker_netman at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  2 20:13:05 2007
From: laker_netman at yahoo.com (Laker Netman)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <405572.66280.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:

Index: configs/192.168.20.206
===================================================================
retrieving revision 1.38
diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
@@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
  set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
  set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
  set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
  set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
- set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
- set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
+ set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
+ set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
  set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
  set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
@@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
  set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
- set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
+ set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
@@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
  set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
  set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
  set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
  set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
- set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48  19
- set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47  100
+ set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
+ set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47  100
  set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
  set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
@@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
  set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
- set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
+ set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
@@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
  set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
  set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
  set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
  set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
- set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
- set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
+ set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
+ set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
  set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
  set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
@@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
  set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
- set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
+ set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
Index: configs/192.168.20.219
===================================================================
retrieving revision 1.28
diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
@@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
  set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
- set spantree portcost    3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
- set spantree portcost    3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
+ set spantree portcost    3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
+ set spantree portcost    3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
  set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
  set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
@@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
  set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
  set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
  set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
  set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
- set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
+ set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
@@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
  set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
- set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
+ set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
Index: configs/192.168.20.223
===================================================================
retrieving revision 1.37
diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
@@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
  set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
  set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
- set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
- set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
+ set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
+ set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
  set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
  set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
@@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
  set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
- set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
+ set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
@@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
  set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
  set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
- set spantree portcost    5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
- set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
+ set spantree portcost    5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
+ set spantree portcost    5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
  set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
  set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
@@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
  set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
  set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
- set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
+ set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
@@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
  set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
  set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
  set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
- set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
- set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
+ set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
+ set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
  set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
  set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
  set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
@@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
  set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
- set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
+ set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
  set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
  set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99

----- Original Message ----
From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs

Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to do.
Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored. If you
want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I think that
is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect the CVS repo.
So saying that I would say you either keep them or get rid of them with
an option in rancid.conf.

Opinions?

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a solution.  Is there one?
> 
> I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Laker
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From rancid at gheek.net  Fri Aug  3 00:12:29 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:12:29 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <20070802171229.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.943f6337f3.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Laker,

This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone turning
on/off their pc).

-Lance


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> 
> Index: configs/192.168.20.206
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.38
> diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
>   set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> - set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> + set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
>   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
>   set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
>   set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48  19
> - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47  100
> + set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
> + set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47  100
>   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
>   set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
>   set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> - set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> + set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> + set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
>   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> Index: configs/192.168.20.219
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.28
> diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
>   set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> - set spantree portcost    3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> + set spantree portcost    3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> + set spantree portcost    3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
>   set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
> @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
> - set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
> @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> Index: configs/192.168.20.223
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.37
> diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
>   set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
>   set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> - set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
> + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> + set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
>   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
>   set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
>   set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> + set spantree portcost    5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> + set spantree portcost    5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
>   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
> @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
>   set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
>   set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> - set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> + set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> + set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
>   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> 
> Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to do.
> Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored. If you
> want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I think that
> is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect the CVS repo.
> So saying that I would say you either keep them or get rid of them with
> an option in rancid.conf.
> 
> Opinions?
> 
> -Lance
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > 
> > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a solution.  Is there one?
> > 
> > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Laker
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From feelgravityspull at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 17:33:32 2007
From: feelgravityspull at gmail.com (feelgravityspull at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:33:32 -0600
Subject: [rancid]  rancid-2.3.2a6, clogin and HP Switches
Message-ID: <add532410708021033o5df139dbp5d3c52a5be86addc@mail.gmail.com>

Just installed the alpha version of rancid and trying to connect to a HP
ProCurve 5406zl switch.  Using clogin, it works 50% of the time, the other
50% if hangs on  the " Press any key to continue" login page.

Has anyone seen this before?

Thanks.

fyi: I had to add a "\n" to line 544 on clogin to send the enable command,
otherwise just "nable" was sent.
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From laker_netman at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  3 13:51:18 2007
From: laker_netman at yahoo.com (Laker Netman)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 06:51:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <787542.4339.qm@web50509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore changes to those lines.  It wouldn't affect restoring a config, because the switch would set the ports to their correct state anyway.

Laker

----- Original Message ----
From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs

Laker,

This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone turning
on/off their pc).

-Lance


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> 
> Index: configs/192.168.20.206
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.38
> diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
>   set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> - set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> + set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
>   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
>   set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
>   set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48  19
> - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47  100
> + set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
> + set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47  100
>   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
>   set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
>   set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
>   set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> - set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> + set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> + set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
>   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> Index: configs/192.168.20.219
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.28
> diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
>   set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> - set spantree portcost    3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> + set spantree portcost    3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> + set spantree portcost    3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
>   set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
> @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
> - set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
> @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> Index: configs/192.168.20.223
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.37
> diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
>   set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
>   set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> - set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
> + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> + set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
>   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
>   set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
>   set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> + set spantree portcost    5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> + set spantree portcost    5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
>   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
> + set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
> @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
>   set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
>   set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
>   set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> - set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> - set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> + set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> + set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
>   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
>   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
>   set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> 
> Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to do.
> Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored. If you
> want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I think that
> is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect the CVS repo.
> So saying that I would say you either keep them or get rid of them with
> an option in rancid.conf.
> 
> Opinions?
> 
> -Lance
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > 
> > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a solution.  Is there one?
> > 
> > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Laker
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From rancid at gheek.net  Fri Aug  3 16:15:53 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:15:53 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <20070803091553.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.daefe3e427.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Laker,

So in other words you don't want to see them even in the CVS repo
correct? Filtering them out of the email is cake. 1 change to
control_rancid and you are good to go.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 6:51 am
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore changes to those lines.  It wouldn't affect restoring a config, because the switch would set the ports to their correct state anyway.
> 
> Laker
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> 
> Laker,
> 
> This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone turning
> on/off their pc).
> 
> -Lance
> 
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > 
> > Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> > 
> > Index: configs/192.168.20.206
> > ===================================================================
> > retrieving revision 1.38
> > diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> > @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
> >   set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > - set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > + set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> > + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
> >   set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47  100
> > + set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > + set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47  100
> >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> > @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
> >   set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > - set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > + set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > + set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> > + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> > Index: configs/192.168.20.219
> > ===================================================================
> > retrieving revision 1.28
> > diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> > @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
> >   set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > - set spantree portcost    3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > + set spantree portcost    3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > + set spantree portcost    3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> >   set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
> > @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
> > - set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
> > @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> > - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> > Index: configs/192.168.20.223
> > ===================================================================
> > retrieving revision 1.37
> > diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> > @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
> >   set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> > - set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
> > + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> > + set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
> >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> > - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> > @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
> >   set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> > + set spantree portcost    5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > + set spantree portcost    5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
> > @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
> >   set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > - set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > + set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > + set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> > + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > 
> > Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to do.
> > Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored. If you
> > want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I think that
> > is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect the CVS repo.
> > So saying that I would say you either keep them or get rid of them with
> > an option in rancid.conf.
> > 
> > Opinions?
> > 
> > -Lance
> > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > 
> > > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a solution.  Is there one?
> > > 
> > > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Laker
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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From dbstewart at dswrite.com  Sat Aug  4 12:26:40 2007
From: dbstewart at dswrite.com (David B. Stewart)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 07:26:40 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
In-Reply-To: <20070803091553.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.daefe3e427.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <01f501c7d692$d2e068c0$4001a8c0@SUPERCECIL>

What I don't understand is why anyone would want "normal" network activity 1) filling up CVS and 2) causing nuisance
email notifications.  Anyone know why the feature was added in the first place?  Maybe it was intended as a poor-man's
network monitoring tool, but it's a real pain on a larger enterprise.  The sheer bulk of nuisance notifications by email
has caused my organization to ignore rancid notifications altogether.
-Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Lance
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:16 AM
To: Laker Netman
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs


Laker,

So in other words you don't want to see them even in the CVS repo correct? Filtering them out of the email is cake. 1
change to control_rancid and you are good to go.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 6:51 am
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as 
> configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore 
> changes to those lines.  It wouldn't affect restoring a config, 
> because the switch would set the ports to their correct state anyway.
> 
> Laker
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> 
> Laker,
> 
> This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone turning 
> on/off their pc).
> 
> -Lance
> 
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > 
> > Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> > 
> > Index: configs/192.168.20.206 
> > ===================================================================
> > retrieving revision 1.38
> > diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> > @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
> >   set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > - set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > + set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> > + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
> >   set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47
100
> > + set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > + set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47  100
> >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> > @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
> >   set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> >   set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > - set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > + set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > + set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> > + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> > Index: configs/192.168.20.219 
> > ===================================================================
> > retrieving revision 1.28
> > diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> > @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
> >   set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > - set spantree portcost    3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > + set spantree portcost    3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > + set spantree portcost    3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> >   set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
> > @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
> > - set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
> > @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> > - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> > Index: configs/192.168.20.223 
> > ===================================================================
> > retrieving revision 1.37
> > diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> > @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
> >   set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> > - set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
> > + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> > + set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
> >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> > - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> > @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
> >   set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> > + set spantree portcost    5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > + set spantree portcost    5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
> > + set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
> > @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
> >   set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> >   set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
> >   set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> > - set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > - set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > + set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > + set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> > - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> > + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
> >   set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > 
> > Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to 
> > do. Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored. 
> > If you want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I 
> > think that is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect 
> > the CVS repo. So saying that I would say you either keep them or get 
> > rid of them with an option in rancid.conf.
> > 
> > Opinions?
> > 
> > -Lance
> > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > 
> > > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes 
> > > creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a 
> > > solution.  Is there one?
> > > 
> > > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Laker
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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From rancid at gheek.net  Sat Aug  4 17:56:49 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:56:49 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <20070804105649.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.3543b73b79.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

All,

To kill this one once and for all I will answer some questions.

1.) Yes CVS will fill up because the Catalyst OS based switches save
changes like these in the configuration. You don't see this in the IOS
versions because they don't save this i the configuration.
2.) I completely agree. Which is why I have written changes to
cat5rancid so it will no longer see these changes. I will share these
changes .... well the simple ugly fix for these. I can not say they will
work on all OSes but I know for sure it runs just fine on Redhat 9 (yes
old, but it was an old server I had) and Suse 9.3 (yes old once again,
but it is my tools server. :( ). I will post this complete change on
Monday/maybe this weekend if I get time as I need to still add the
configuration option to turn it on/off. That is extremely simple but
would like to test it first, before telling people to use it.


Hopefully my simple but ugly fix will work you Dave an many more that
tend to do just like most everyone ignore the changes due to the sheer
number of "set spantree port" messages. Well at least to me these are
the noisy ones.

-lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: "David B. Stewart" <dbstewart at dswrite.com>
> Date: Sat, August 04, 2007 5:26 am
> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
>
> What I don't understand is why anyone would want "normal" network activity 1) filling up CVS and 2) causing nuisance
> email notifications.  Anyone know why the feature was added in the first place?  Maybe it was intended as a poor-man's
> network monitoring tool, but it's a real pain on a larger enterprise.  The sheer bulk of nuisance notifications by email
> has caused my organization to ignore rancid notifications altogether.
> -Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Lance
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:16 AM
> To: Laker Netman
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
>
>
> Laker,
>
> So in other words you don't want to see them even in the CVS repo correct? Filtering them out of the email is cake. 1
> change to control_rancid and you are good to go.
>
> -Lance
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 6:51 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as
> > configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore
> > changes to those lines.  It wouldn't affect restoring a config,
> > because the switch would set the ports to their correct state anyway.
> >
> > Laker
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> >
> > Laker,
> >
> > This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone turning
> > on/off their pc).
> >
> > -Lance
> >
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> > >
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.206
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.38
> > > diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> > > @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > > @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> > > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47
> 100
> > > + set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > > @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> > > @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > > @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.219
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.28
> > > diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> > > @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
> > > @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
> > > @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.223
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.37
> > > diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> > > @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > > @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> > > @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > > @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
> > > @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > > @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > >
> > > Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to
> > > do. Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored.
> > > If you want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I
> > > think that is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect
> > > the CVS repo. So saying that I would say you either keep them or get
> > > rid of them with an option in rancid.conf.
> > >
> > > Opinions?
> > >
> > > -Lance
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes
> > > > creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a
> > > > solution.  Is there one?
> > > >
> > > > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Laker
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From dbstewart at dswrite.com  Sat Aug  4 18:22:22 2007
From: dbstewart at dswrite.com (David B. Stewart)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 13:22:22 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
In-Reply-To: <20070804105649.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.3543b73b79.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <002a01c7d6c4$69211ba0$4001a8c0@SUPERCECIL>

Ah, but the problem isn't limited to CatOS.  Though the format and content is different, I see regular VLAN port state
changes acknowledged by all switches - IOS and CatOS.  CVS may not be affected for IOS, but the diff is run and reported
regardless.

Similar nag reports are noted for Flash changes.  They are usually 1 to 3 byte changes in the amount of memory reported
by IOS.  No significance found (and no understanding of why the sizes would fluctuate), but it is a diff and gets
reported nonetheless.

Looking forward to the changes.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Lance [mailto:rancid at gheek.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:57 PM
To: dbstewart at dswrite.com
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs


All,

To kill this one once and for all I will answer some questions.

1.) Yes CVS will fill up because the Catalyst OS based switches save changes like these in the configuration. You don't
see this in the IOS versions because they don't save this i the configuration.
2.) I completely agree. Which is why I have written changes to cat5rancid so it will no longer see these changes. I will
share these changes .... well the simple ugly fix for these. I can not say they will work on all OSes but I know for
sure it runs just fine on Redhat 9 (yes old, but it was an old server I had) and Suse 9.3 (yes old once again, but it is
my tools server. :( ). I will post this complete change on Monday/maybe this weekend if I get time as I need to still
add the configuration option to turn it on/off. That is extremely simple but would like to test it first, before telling
people to use it.


Hopefully my simple but ugly fix will work you Dave an many more that tend to do just like most everyone ignore the
changes due to the sheer number of "set spantree port" messages. Well at least to me these are the noisy ones.

-lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: "David B. Stewart" <dbstewart at dswrite.com>
> Date: Sat, August 04, 2007 5:26 am
> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
>
> What I don't understand is why anyone would want "normal" network 
> activity 1) filling up CVS and 2) causing nuisance email 
> notifications.  Anyone know why the feature was added in the first 
> place?  Maybe it was intended as a poor-man's network monitoring tool, 
> but it's a real pain on a larger enterprise.  The sheer bulk of 
> nuisance notifications by email has caused my organization to ignore 
> rancid notifications altogether. -Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net 
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Lance
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:16 AM
> To: Laker Netman
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
>
>
> Laker,
>
> So in other words you don't want to see them even in the CVS repo 
> correct? Filtering them out of the email is cake. 1 change to 
> control_rancid and you are good to go.
>
> -Lance
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 6:51 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as 
> > configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore 
> > changes to those lines.  It wouldn't affect restoring a config, 
> > because the switch would set the ports to their correct state 
> > anyway.
> >
> > Laker
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> >
> > Laker,
> >
> > This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone 
> > turning on/off their pc).
> >
> > -Lance
> >
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing 
> > > diffs
> > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> > >
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.206 
> > > ==================================================================
> > > =
> > > retrieving revision 1.38
> > > diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> > > @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > > @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> > > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > > - set spantree portcost
5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47
> 100
> > > + set spantree portcost    5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > > @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> > > @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > > @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.219 
> > > ==================================================================
> > > =
> > > retrieving revision 1.28
> > > diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> > > @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
> > > @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
> > > @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.223 
> > > ==================================================================
> > > =
> > > retrieving revision 1.37
> > > diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> > > @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48
100
> > > + set spantree portcost    4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48
100
> > >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > > @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> > > @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > > @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
> > > @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > > @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing 
> > > diffs
> > >
> > > Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard 
> > > to do. Of course if depends where you want the changes to be 
> > > ignored. If you want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the 
> > > emails then I think that is easy to do, but I would like to see 
> > > the emails reflect the CVS repo. So saying that I would say you 
> > > either keep them or get rid of them with an option in rancid.conf.
> > >
> > > Opinions?
> > >
> > > -Lance
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes 
> > > > creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a 
> > > > solution.  Is there one?
> > > >
> > > > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Laker
> > > >
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From QuastR at mail.ccsu.edu  Sun Aug  5 16:53:01 2007
From: QuastR at mail.ccsu.edu (Quast, Robert (InfoTechServ))
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 12:53:01 -0400
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
In-Reply-To: <002a01c7d6c4$69211ba0$4001a8c0@SUPERCECIL>
References: <20070804105649.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.3543b73b79.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
	<002a01c7d6c4$69211ba0$4001a8c0@SUPERCECIL>
Message-ID: <2B04C67D8EFC804F895BFA2A6AAFEDA3493D90@EXCHANGE2.facstaff.ccsu.edu>

I just saw this thread and actually have something to contribute. I had
this same problem several months ago.  After digging through the
archives, I ended up adding some lines to just ignore "set spantree
portfast" and "set spantree portinstancecost" in cat5rancid.  We have
about 20 CatOS 4006's and have been running with these changes for about
4 months.  I added the below 2 statements to line 861 in
rancid/bin/cat5rancid (you could search for "Dog gone Cool" in the
file).  I basically found the section where they ignore certain commands
and just copied the ones already there.

        # Dog gone Cool matches to process the rest of the config
        /^set spantree portcost / && next;
        /^set spantree portinstancecost / && next;

        /^#time: /              && next; # kill time:
        /^tftp-server flash /   && next; # kill any tftp remains
        /^ntp clock-period /    && next; # kill ntp clock-period
        /^ length /             && next; # kill length on serial lines
        /^ width /              && next; # kill width on serial lines

Oh and the only times I see where the memory bytes change are when
switches either reboot or someone performs a write in IOS without making
any changes, doesn't happen that often.


Rob Quast
Tech Systems
Central Connecticut State University
(860) 832-2057
quastr at ccsu.edu





-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of David B.
Stewart
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 2:22 PM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs

Ah, but the problem isn't limited to CatOS.  Though the format and
content is different, I see regular VLAN port state
changes acknowledged by all switches - IOS and CatOS.  CVS may not be
affected for IOS, but the diff is run and reported
regardless.

Similar nag reports are noted for Flash changes.  They are usually 1 to
3 byte changes in the amount of memory reported
by IOS.  No significance found (and no understanding of why the sizes
would fluctuate), but it is a diff and gets
reported nonetheless.

Looking forward to the changes.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Lance [mailto:rancid at gheek.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:57 PM
To: dbstewart at dswrite.com
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs


All,

To kill this one once and for all I will answer some questions.

1.) Yes CVS will fill up because the Catalyst OS based switches save
changes like these in the configuration. You don't
see this in the IOS versions because they don't save this i the
configuration.
2.) I completely agree. Which is why I have written changes to
cat5rancid so it will no longer see these changes. I will
share these changes .... well the simple ugly fix for these. I can not
say they will work on all OSes but I know for
sure it runs just fine on Redhat 9 (yes old, but it was an old server I
had) and Suse 9.3 (yes old once again, but it is
my tools server. :( ). I will post this complete change on Monday/maybe
this weekend if I get time as I need to still
add the configuration option to turn it on/off. That is extremely simple
but would like to test it first, before telling
people to use it.


Hopefully my simple but ugly fix will work you Dave an many more that
tend to do just like most everyone ignore the
changes due to the sheer number of "set spantree port" messages. Well at
least to me these are the noisy ones.

-lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: "David B. Stewart" <dbstewart at dswrite.com>
> Date: Sat, August 04, 2007 5:26 am
> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
>
> What I don't understand is why anyone would want "normal" network 
> activity 1) filling up CVS and 2) causing nuisance email 
> notifications.  Anyone know why the feature was added in the first 
> place?  Maybe it was intended as a poor-man's network monitoring tool,

> but it's a real pain on a larger enterprise.  The sheer bulk of 
> nuisance notifications by email has caused my organization to ignore 
> rancid notifications altogether. -Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net 
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Lance
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:16 AM
> To: Laker Netman
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
>
>
> Laker,
>
> So in other words you don't want to see them even in the CVS repo 
> correct? Filtering them out of the email is cake. 1 change to 
> control_rancid and you are good to go.
>
> -Lance
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 6:51 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as 
> > configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore 
> > changes to those lines.  It wouldn't affect restoring a config, 
> > because the switch would set the ports to their correct state 
> > anyway.
> >
> > Laker
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> >
> > Laker,
> >
> > This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone 
> > turning on/off their pc).
> >
> > -Lance
> >
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing 
> > > diffs
> > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> > >
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.206 
> > > ==================================================================
> > > =
> > > retrieving revision 1.38
> > > diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> > > @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost
4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > > - set spantree portcost
4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost
4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > > + set spantree portcost
4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > > @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> > > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost
5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/4
8  19
> > > - set spantree portcost
5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-4
0,5/42-43,5/46-47
> 100
> > > + set spantree portcost
5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost
5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-4
3,5/46-47  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > > @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> > > @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost
6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > > - set spantree portcost
6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > > + set spantree portcost
6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost
6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > > @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.219 
> > > ==================================================================
> > > =
> > > retrieving revision 1.28
> > > diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> > > @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost
3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > > - set spantree portcost
3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > > + set spantree portcost
3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > > + set spantree portcost
3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
> > > @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
> > > @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.223 
> > > ==================================================================
> > > =
> > > retrieving revision 1.37
> > > diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> > > @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost
4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44
-45  19
> > > - set spantree portcost
4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4
/43,4/46-48
100
> > > + set spantree portcost
4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45
19
> > > + set spantree portcost
4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4
/43,4/46-48
100
> > >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > > @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> > > @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost
5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > > - set spantree portcost
5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/4
4-48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost
5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > > + set spantree portcost
5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48
100
> > >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > > @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
> > > @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
> > >   set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
> > >   set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > > - set spantree portcost
6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > > + set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36
19
> > > + set spantree portcost
6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > > @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
> > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing 
> > > diffs
> > >
> > > Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard 
> > > to do. Of course if depends where you want the changes to be 
> > > ignored. If you want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the 
> > > emails then I think that is easy to do, but I would like to see 
> > > the emails reflect the CVS repo. So saying that I would say you 
> > > either keep them or get rid of them with an option in rancid.conf.
> > >
> > > Opinions?
> > >
> > > -Lance
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes 
> > > > creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a 
> > > > solution.  Is there one?
> > > >
> > > > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > > >
> > > >
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From rancid at gheek.net  Sun Aug  5 18:17:26 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:17:26 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <20070805111726.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.05e5a8ac8f.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Dave,

Robert has purposed a very simple fix just like mine. I have an option
to turn on/off the filtering of these config lines except I use the
syntax /^set spantree port.*/ because it will catch both of those
possible output lines and leaves the valid stuff.

In regard to the changes of spanning-tree stuff on IOS it will not show
up in your config thus never showing up in the CVS diff. The
differencing normally for something to show up IOS based is due to info
changes in the storage areas (flash/bootflash/etc). I personally have
ignored those commands as they serve no purpose for me. I would suggest
doing the same unless you have a very particular reason to capture the
images tha are stored on your devices.


-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: "Quast, Robert (InfoTechServ)" <QuastR at mail.ccsu.edu>
> Date: Sun, August 05, 2007 9:53 am
> To: <dbstewart at dswrite.com>,  <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
>
> I just saw this thread and actually have something to contribute. I had
> this same problem several months ago.  After digging through the
> archives, I ended up adding some lines to just ignore "set spantree
> portfast" and "set spantree portinstancecost" in cat5rancid.  We have
> about 20 CatOS 4006's and have been running with these changes for about
> 4 months.  I added the below 2 statements to line 861 in
> rancid/bin/cat5rancid (you could search for "Dog gone Cool" in the
> file).  I basically found the section where they ignore certain commands
> and just copied the ones already there.
>
>         # Dog gone Cool matches to process the rest of the config
>         /^set spantree portcost / && next;
>         /^set spantree portinstancecost / && next;
>
>         /^#time: /              && next; # kill time:
>         /^tftp-server flash /   && next; # kill any tftp remains
>         /^ntp clock-period /    && next; # kill ntp clock-period
>         /^ length /             && next; # kill length on serial lines
>         /^ width /              && next; # kill width on serial lines
>
> Oh and the only times I see where the memory bytes change are when
> switches either reboot or someone performs a write in IOS without making
> any changes, doesn't happen that often.
>
>
> Rob Quast
> Tech Systems
> Central Connecticut State University
> (860) 832-2057
> quastr at ccsu.edu
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of David B.
> Stewart
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 2:22 PM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
>
> Ah, but the problem isn't limited to CatOS.  Though the format and
> content is different, I see regular VLAN port state
> changes acknowledged by all switches - IOS and CatOS.  CVS may not be
> affected for IOS, but the diff is run and reported
> regardless.
>
> Similar nag reports are noted for Flash changes.  They are usually 1 to
> 3 byte changes in the amount of memory reported
> by IOS.  No significance found (and no understanding of why the sizes
> would fluctuate), but it is a diff and gets
> reported nonetheless.
>
> Looking forward to the changes.
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance [mailto:rancid at gheek.net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:57 PM
> To: dbstewart at dswrite.com
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: RE: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
>
>
> All,
>
> To kill this one once and for all I will answer some questions.
>
> 1.) Yes CVS will fill up because the Catalyst OS based switches save
> changes like these in the configuration. You don't
> see this in the IOS versions because they don't save this i the
> configuration.
> 2.) I completely agree. Which is why I have written changes to
> cat5rancid so it will no longer see these changes. I will
> share these changes .... well the simple ugly fix for these. I can not
> say they will work on all OSes but I know for
> sure it runs just fine on Redhat 9 (yes old, but it was an old server I
> had) and Suse 9.3 (yes old once again, but it is
> my tools server. :( ). I will post this complete change on Monday/maybe
> this weekend if I get time as I need to still
> add the configuration option to turn it on/off. That is extremely simple
> but would like to test it first, before telling
> people to use it.
>
>
> Hopefully my simple but ugly fix will work you Dave an many more that
> tend to do just like most everyone ignore the
> changes due to the sheer number of "set spantree port" messages. Well at
> least to me these are the noisy ones.
>
> -lance
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: "David B. Stewart" <dbstewart at dswrite.com>
> > Date: Sat, August 04, 2007 5:26 am
> > To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
> >
> > What I don't understand is why anyone would want "normal" network
> > activity 1) filling up CVS and 2) causing nuisance email
> > notifications.  Anyone know why the feature was added in the first
> > place?  Maybe it was intended as a poor-man's network monitoring tool,
>
> > but it's a real pain on a larger enterprise.  The sheer bulk of
> > nuisance notifications by email has caused my organization to ignore
> > rancid notifications altogether. -Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> > [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Lance
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:16 AM
> > To: Laker Netman
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> >
> >
> > Laker,
> >
> > So in other words you don't want to see them even in the CVS repo
> > correct? Filtering them out of the email is cake. 1 change to
> > control_rancid and you are good to go.
> >
> > -Lance
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 6:51 am
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as
> > > configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore
> > > changes to those lines.  It wouldn't affect restoring a config,
> > > because the switch would set the ports to their correct state
> > > anyway.
> > >
> > > Laker
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > >
> > > Laker,
> > >
> > > This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone
> > > turning on/off their pc).
> > >
> > > -Lance
> > >
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing
> > > > diffs
> > > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> > > >
> > > > Index: configs/192.168.20.206
> > > > ==================================================================
> > > > =
> > > > retrieving revision 1.38
> > > > diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> > > > @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
> > > >   set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > >   set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > >   set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > >   set spantree portfast    4/1-48 disable
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47  19
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48  100
> > > >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > > > @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> > > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> > > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> > > > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
> > > >   set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > >   set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > >   set spantree portfast    5/26 enable
> > > >   set spantree portfast    5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/4
> 8  19
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-4
> 0,5/42-43,5/46-47
> > 100
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48  19
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-4
> 3,5/46-47  100
> > > >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > > > @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> > > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> > > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> > > > @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
> > > >   set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > >   set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > >   set spantree portfast    6/2,6/37 enable
> > > >   set spantree portfast    6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48  19
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47  100
> > > >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > > > @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/9  cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> > > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> > > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> > > > Index: configs/192.168.20.219
> > > > ==================================================================
> > > > =
> > > > retrieving revision 1.28
> > > > diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> > > > @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
> > > >   set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set spantree portfast    3/1-48 disable
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48  19
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45  100
> > > >   set spantree portpri     3/1-48  32
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/1  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/2  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/3  0
> > > > @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/1  cost 18
> > > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 18
> > > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/2  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/3  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/4  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/5  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/6  cost 99
> > > > @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> > > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> > > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> > > > Index: configs/192.168.20.223
> > > > ==================================================================
> > > > =
> > > > retrieving revision 1.37
> > > > diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> > > > @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
> > > >   set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set spantree portfast    4/14 enable
> > > >   set spantree portfast    4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44
> -45  19
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4
> /43,4/46-48
> 100
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45
> 19
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4
> /43,4/46-48
> 100
> > > >   set spantree portpri     4/1-48  32
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/1  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/2  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 4/3  0
> > > > @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/7  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/8  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/9  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> > > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> > > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> > > > @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
> > > >   set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set spantree portfast    5/10 enable
> > > >   set spantree portfast    5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/4
> 4-48  100
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43  19
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48
> 100
> > > >   set spantree portpri     5/1-48  32
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/1  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/2  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/3  0
> > > > @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/1  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/2  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/3  cost 99
> > > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 18
> > > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/4  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/5  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/6  cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/7  cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 5/8  cost 99
> > > > @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
> > > >   set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > >   set spantree portfast    6/29,6/32 enable
> > > >   set spantree portfast    6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> > > > - set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36  19
> > > > - set spantree portcost
> 6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > > > + set spantree portcost    6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36
> 19
> > > > + set spantree portcost
> 6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48  100
> > > >   set spantree portpri     6/1-48  32
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/1  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/2  0
> > > >   set spantree portvlanpri 6/3  0
> > > > @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> > > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> > > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
> > > >   set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing
> > > > diffs
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard
> > > > to do. Of course if depends where you want the changes to be
> > > > ignored. If you want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the
> > > > emails then I think that is easy to do, but I would like to see
> > > > the emails reflect the CVS repo. So saying that I would say you
> > > > either keep them or get rid of them with an option in rancid.conf.
> > > >
> > > > Opinions?
> > > >
> > > > -Lance
> > > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: [rancid]  spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > > > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > >
> > > > > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes
> > > > > creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a
> > > > > solution.  Is there one?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Laker
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From regnar.lyngso at aak.com  Fri Aug  3 09:05:41 2007
From: regnar.lyngso at aak.com (Regnar Bang =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lyngs=F8?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:05:41 +0200
Subject: [rancid] Re: rancid-2.3.2a6, clogin and HP Switches
In-Reply-To: <add532410708021033o5df139dbp5d3c52a5be86addc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF1A23CA3E.845A0829-ON0025732C.0031DF6A-C125732C.0031F2A1@aak.com>

Hi,

for HP equipment use hlogin and not clogin. clogin is for Cisco equipment.

Regards,
-- 
Regnar Bang Lyngs?, Network Administrator
AarhusKarlshamn Denmark A/S
M.P. Bruuns Gade 27, DK-8000 ?rhus C, Denmark
Email: mailto:regnar.lyngso at aak.com
Phone: +45 87 30 61 65 Mobile: +45 40 45 08 89
Registered office: Aarhus Reg. no: 15672099



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03-08-2007 05:38

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Subject
[rancid]  rancid-2.3.2a6, clogin and HP Switches






Just installed the alpha version of rancid and trying to connect to a HP 
ProCurve 5406zl switch.  Using clogin, it works 50% of the time, the other 
50% if hangs on  the " Press any key to continue" login page.

Has anyone seen this before?

Thanks.

fyi: I had to add a "\n" to line 544 on clogin to send the enable command, 
otherwise just "nable" was sent. 
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From rancid at gheek.net  Mon Aug  6 16:00:25 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 09:00:25 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <20070806090025.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.dec7d133b7.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Laker,

Since you and others have been wanting this I have tried to figure out
the easiest ways of doing it.

So rather than posting a diff I will just post the couple of lines above
and below where the new code will go I hope this helps. Let me know if
it doesn't work.

John H,

Any chance getting this added to the next alpha release?

#
# bin/cat5rancid
# The 2 new lines are directly below "# Dog gone Cool matches to process
the rest of the config"
#

        # Dog gone Cool matches to process the rest of the config
        /^set spantree priority.*$/     && next if
(defined($ENV{'IGNORESPANTREE'})); # kill set spantree priority*
        /^set spantree port.*$/ && next if
(defined($ENV{'IGNORESPANTREE'})); # kill set spantree port*
        /^#time: /              && next; # kill time:
        /^tftp-server flash /   && next; # kill any tftp remains
        /^ntp clock-period /    && next; # kill ntp clock-period




#
# etc/rancid.conf
# Place this anywhere in the rancid.conf
#

# Uncomment IGNORESPANTREE to ignore "set spantree port" and set
# "spantree priority" messages in the diff email
IGNORESPANTREE=YES; export IGNORESPANTREE

-Lance


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 9:15 am
> To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> Laker,
> 
> So in other words you don't want to see them even in the CVS repo
> correct? Filtering them out of the email is cake. 1 change to
> control_rancid and you are good to go.
> 
> -Lance
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 6:51 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > 
> > I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore changes to those lines. It wouldn't affect restoring a config, because the switch would set the ports to their correct state anyway.
> > 
> > Laker
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > 
> > Laker,
> > 
> > This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone turning
> > on/off their pc).
> > 
> > -Lance
> > 
> > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > 
> > > Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> > > 
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.206
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.38
> > > diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> > > @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
> > > set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set spantree portfast 4/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48 100
> > > set spantree portpri 4/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/3 0
> > > @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> > > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
> > > set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set spantree portfast 5/26 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47 100
> > > set spantree portpri 5/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/3 0
> > > @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> > > @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
> > > set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set spantree portfast 6/2,6/37 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47 100
> > > set spantree portpri 6/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/3 0
> > > @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/9 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.219
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.28
> > > diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> > > @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
> > > set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set spantree portfast 3/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45 100
> > > set spantree portpri 3/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/3 0
> > > @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/1 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/2 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/2 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/3 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/4 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/5 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/6 cost 99
> > > @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.223
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.37
> > > diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> > > @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
> > > set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set spantree portfast 4/14 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48 100
> > > set spantree portpri 4/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/3 0
> > > @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/7 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/8 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/9 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> > > @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
> > > set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set spantree portfast 5/10 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48 100
> > > set spantree portpri 5/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/3 0
> > > @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/1 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/2 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/3 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/4 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/4 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/5 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/6 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/7 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/8 cost 99
> > > @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
> > > set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set spantree portfast 6/29,6/32 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48 100
> > > set spantree portpri 6/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/3 0
> > > @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > 
> > > Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to do.
> > > Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored. If you
> > > want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I think that
> > > is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect the CVS repo.
> > > So saying that I would say you either keep them or get rid of them with
> > > an option in rancid.conf.
> > > 
> > > Opinions?
> > > 
> > > -Lance
> > > 
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > 
> > > > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a solution. Is there one?
> > > > 
> > > > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Laker
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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From Todd at equivoice.com  Mon Aug  6 16:32:19 2007
From: Todd at equivoice.com (Todd Heide)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:32:19 -0500
Subject: [rancid]  File lock help
Message-ID: <082FEA82DC985B4F8A6B412D5AC4E2207D67F2@exchange.Equivoice.local>

I know I asked this before, but cant find the reply from a year ago. 

 

hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock exists

-rw-r-----  1 rancid netadm 0 Aug  2 14:10
/tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock

 

 

 

How do I unlock the files? Also what would have locked them in the first
place? 

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From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk  Mon Aug  6 18:23:48 2007
From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:23:48 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  clogin hanging on a Cisco router
Message-ID: <46B77524.AC0B.0006.3@ccw.gov.uk>

I started setting up RANCID for real.

The first router I added (3745 running IOS 12.4.12) went fine.

The next router I added (2811 running IOS 12.4.10a) isn't so good...
When I run clogin to test, it gets an enable prompt fine, but when I
type "q" to logout, nothing happens. I have to CTRL-C to break the
connection. This happens with both TELNET & SSH connections.

Any suggestions ? The only thing I can think of is a bug in IOS..

Thanks,

GTG

-- 

? 
Gordon Ross,
Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith
Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru


From mashcraft at omniture.com  Mon Aug  6 18:28:40 2007
From: mashcraft at omniture.com (Mike Ashcraft)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:28:40 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Re: clogin hanging on a Cisco router
In-Reply-To: <46B77524.AC0B.0006.3@ccw.gov.uk>
References: <46B77524.AC0B.0006.3@ccw.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <45EB285310B55542A513F93230F0A533013AC98F@EXCHANGE0.orm.omniture.com>

Sounds like you need to set autoenable properly in your .cloginrc file
to correctly reflect the configuration and access level of the account
rancid is using. 

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Ross
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:24 PM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] clogin hanging on a Cisco router

I started setting up RANCID for real.

The first router I added (3745 running IOS 12.4.12) went fine.

The next router I added (2811 running IOS 12.4.10a) isn't so good...
When I run clogin to test, it gets an enable prompt fine, but when I
type "q" to logout, nothing happens. I have to CTRL-C to break the
connection. This happens with both TELNET & SSH connections.

Any suggestions ? The only thing I can think of is a bug in IOS..

Thanks,

GTG

-- 

- 
Gordon Ross,
Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith
Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru

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From rancid at gheek.net  Mon Aug  6 18:37:10 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:37:10 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help
Message-ID: <20070806113710.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.e54e20acf1.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Todd,

rm /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock


-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  File lock help
> From: "Todd Heide" <Todd at equivoice.com>
> Date: Mon, August 06, 2007 9:32 am
> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
> 
> I know I asked this before, but cant find the reply from a year ago. 
> 
>  
> 
> hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock exists
> 
> -rw-r-----  1 rancid netadm 0 Aug  2 14:10
> /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> How do I unlock the files? Also what would have locked them in the first
> place?<hr>_______________________________________________
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From laker_netman at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 18:46:11 2007
From: laker_netman at yahoo.com (Laker Netman)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
Message-ID: <919613.53491.qm@web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Awesome!  My inbox and I thank you.  And yes, I think this is a great addition for the next alpha.  Ummm, any idea when this will become a beta?  I've run it for a long time now and it's pretty stable!

Thanks again,
Laker

----- Original Message ----
From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2007 11:00:25 AM
Subject: RE: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs

Laker,

Since you and others have been wanting this I have tried to figure out
the easiest ways of doing it.

So rather than posting a diff I will just post the couple of lines above
and below where the new code will go I hope this helps. Let me know if
it doesn't work.

John H,

Any chance getting this added to the next alpha release?

#
# bin/cat5rancid
# The 2 new lines are directly below "# Dog gone Cool matches to process
the rest of the config"
#

        # Dog gone Cool matches to process the rest of the config
        /^set spantree priority.*$/     && next if
(defined($ENV{'IGNORESPANTREE'})); # kill set spantree priority*
        /^set spantree port.*$/ && next if
(defined($ENV{'IGNORESPANTREE'})); # kill set spantree port*
        /^#time: /              && next; # kill time:
        /^tftp-server flash /   && next; # kill any tftp remains
        /^ntp clock-period /    && next; # kill ntp clock-period




#
# etc/rancid.conf
# Place this anywhere in the rancid.conf
#

# Uncomment IGNORESPANTREE to ignore "set spantree port" and set
# "spantree priority" messages in the diff email
IGNORESPANTREE=YES; export IGNORESPANTREE

-Lance


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 9:15 am
> To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> Laker,
> 
> So in other words you don't want to see them even in the CVS repo
> correct? Filtering them out of the email is cake. 1 change to
> control_rancid and you are good to go.
> 
> -Lance
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Fri, August 03, 2007 6:51 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > 
> > I understand that, but I'd prefer not to have them appear as configuration changes if possible, i.e., have the script ignore changes to those lines. It wouldn't affect restoring a config, because the switch would set the ports to their correct state anyway.
> > 
> > Laker
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2007 7:12:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > 
> > Laker,
> > 
> > This is directly related to ports changing state (aka someone turning
> > on/off their pc).
> > 
> > -Lance
> > 
> > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Thu, August 02, 2007 1:13 pm
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > 
> > > Here's and example of what I get in email and CVS:
> > > 
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.206
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.38
> > > diff -U4 -r1.38 192.168.20.206
> > > @@ -1072,10 +1072,10 @@
> > > set trunk 4/46 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set trunk 4/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set trunk 4/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set spantree portfast 4/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 4/1,4/5-10,4/12-13,4/21-22,4/25-26,4/28,4/31-32,4/38,4/45,4/47 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 4/2-4,4/11,4/14-20,4/23-24,4/27,4/29-30,4/33-37,4/39-44,4/46,4/48 100
> > > set spantree portpri 4/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/3 0
> > > @@ -1150,9 +1150,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/24 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/25 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/26 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/27 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/28 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/29 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/30 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/31 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/32 cost 18
> > > @@ -1270,10 +1270,10 @@
> > > set trunk 5/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set trunk 5/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set spantree portfast 5/26 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 5/1-25,5/27-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/41,5/44-45,5/48 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-40,5/42-43,5/46-47 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 5/4,5/6,5/9-12,5/14-15,5/19,5/22-24,5/28,5/33,5/35,5/38,5/44-45,5/48 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 5/1-3,5/5,5/7-8,5/13,5/16-18,5/20-21,5/25-27,5/29-32,5/34,5/36-37,5/39-43,5/46-47 100
> > > set spantree portpri 5/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/3 0
> > > @@ -1361,9 +1361,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/37 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/38 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/39 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/40 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/41 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/42 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/43 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/44 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/45 cost 18
> > > @@ -1466,10 +1466,10 @@
> > > set trunk 6/47 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set trunk 6/48 auto negotiate 1-1005,1025-4094
> > > set spantree portfast 6/2,6/37 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 6/1,6/3-36,6/38-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 6/2,6/6-8,6/10-14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 6/1,6/3-5,6/9,6/13,6/15-18,6/23,6/37-38,6/40-43,6/46,6/48 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 6/2,6/6-8,6/10-12,6/14,6/19-22,6/24-36,6/39,6/44-45,6/47 100
> > > set spantree portpri 6/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/3 0
> > > @@ -1529,9 +1529,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/9 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/10 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/11 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/12 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/13 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/14 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/15 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/16 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/17 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.219
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.28
> > > diff -U4 -r1.28 192.168.20.219
> > > @@ -668,10 +668,10 @@
> > > set trunk 3/46 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 3/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 3/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set spantree portfast 3/1-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 3/1-2,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-39,3/41,3/43,3/46-48 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 3/3-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/40,3/42,3/44-45 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 3/1,3/11-12,3/19,3/25,3/27-29,3/35,3/37-38,3/41,3/43,3/46-48 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 3/2-10,3/13-18,3/20-24,3/26,3/30-34,3/36,3/39-40,3/42,3/44-45 100
> > > set spantree portpri 3/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/3 0
> > > @@ -720,9 +720,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/46 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/47 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 3/48 0
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/1 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/2 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/2 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/3 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/4 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/5 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/6 cost 99
> > > @@ -757,9 +757,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/35 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/36 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/37 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/38 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 3/39 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/40 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/41 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/42 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 3/43 cost 18
> > > Index: configs/192.168.20.223
> > > ===================================================================
> > > retrieving revision 1.37
> > > diff -U4 -r1.37 192.168.20.223
> > > @@ -713,10 +713,10 @@
> > > set trunk 4/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 4/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set spantree portfast 4/14 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 4/1-13,4/15-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 4/1,4/10-11,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 4/2-9,4/12-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 4/1,4/10,4/17-18,4/21,4/23,4/25,4/27,4/29,4/32,4/34,4/38-39,4/42,4/44-45 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 4/2-9,4/11-16,4/19-20,4/22,4/24,4/26,4/28,4/30-31,4/33,4/35-37,4/40-41,4/43,4/46-48 100
> > > set spantree portpri 4/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 4/3 0
> > > @@ -774,9 +774,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/7 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/8 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/9 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/10 cost 18
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 4/11 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/12 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/13 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/14 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 4/15 cost 99
> > > @@ -889,10 +889,10 @@
> > > set trunk 5/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 5/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set spantree portfast 5/10 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 5/1-9,5/11-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 5/4,5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 5/1-3,5/5-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 5/7,5/11-12,5/15,5/18,5/20,5/26-27,5/33,5/35-36,5/43 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 5/1-6,5/8-10,5/13-14,5/16-17,5/19,5/21-25,5/28-32,5/34,5/37-42,5/44-48 100
> > > set spantree portpri 5/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/3 0
> > > @@ -943,9 +943,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 5/48 0
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/1 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/2 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/3 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 5/4 cost 18
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 5/4 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/5 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/6 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/7 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 5/8 cost 99
> > > @@ -1063,10 +1063,10 @@
> > > set trunk 6/47 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set trunk 6/48 auto dot1q 1-1005
> > > set spantree portfast 6/29,6/32 enable
> > > set spantree portfast 6/1-28,6/30-31,6/33-48 disable
> > > - set spantree portcost 6/9,6/17,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36 19
> > > - set spantree portcost 6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48 100
> > > + set spantree portcost 6/9,6/17,6/24,6/26-27,6/30,6/33,6/36 19
> > > + set spantree portcost 6/1-8,6/10-16,6/18-23,6/25,6/28-29,6/31-32,6/34-35,6/37-48 100
> > > set spantree portpri 6/1-48 32
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/1 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/2 0
> > > set spantree portvlanpri 6/3 0
> > > @@ -1137,9 +1137,9 @@
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/20 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/21 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/22 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/23 cost 99
> > > - set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 99
> > > + set spantree portvlancost 6/24 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/25 cost 99
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/26 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/27 cost 18
> > > set spantree portvlancost 6/28 cost 99
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > To: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 2:39:20 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > 
> > > Maybe I am a little crazy but I don't think it would be that hard to do.
> > > Of course if depends where you want the changes to be ignored. If you
> > > want them to be tracked in CVS but not in the emails then I think that
> > > is easy to do, but I would like to see the emails reflect the CVS repo.
> > > So saying that I would say you either keep them or get rid of them with
> > > an option in rancid.conf.
> > > 
> > > Opinions?
> > > 
> > > -Lance
> > > 
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: [rancid] spanning tree/portcost changes causing diffs
> > > > From: Laker Netman <laker_netman at yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Wed, August 01, 2007 12:11 pm
> > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > 
> > > > I have read several threads on the subject of portcost changes creating bogus diffs, but I haven't found one that presents a solution. Is there one?
> > > > 
> > > > I am running RANCID 2.3.2a6
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Laker
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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From Todd at equivoice.com  Mon Aug  6 19:02:29 2007
From: Todd at equivoice.com (Todd Heide)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:02:29 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help
In-Reply-To: <20070806113710.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.e54e20acf1.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <082FEA82DC985B4F8A6B412D5AC4E2207D6838@exchange.Equivoice.local>

Thanks Guys, it was a DOH moment on my part, I forgot it is a hidden
file and couldn't find it due to a lack of using the -a after issuing
ls. Its working again. 

Thanks
Todd Heide
Equivoice Inc.

CCNA CWLSS CS-CISecS
847-235-3308
 
Nothing ever goes as planned, Its a hell of a notion, 
Even pharaohs turn to sand, Like a drop in the ocean
-----Original Message-----
From: Lance [mailto:rancid at gheek.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:37 PM
To: Todd Heide
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] File lock help

Todd,

rm /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock


-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  File lock help
> From: "Todd Heide" <Todd at equivoice.com>
> Date: Mon, August 06, 2007 9:32 am
> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
> 
> I know I asked this before, but cant find the reply from a year ago. 
> 
>  
> 
> hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock exists
> 
> -rw-r-----  1 rancid netadm 0 Aug  2 14:10
> /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> How do I unlock the files? Also what would have locked them in the
first
> place?<hr>_______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss


From rancid at gheek.net  Mon Aug  6 22:31:10 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:31:10 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help
Message-ID: <20070806153110.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.012322063e.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

These lock files should never be left behind unless the scripts aren't
finishing correctly.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: File lock help
> From: Manuel Noriega <mnoriega at amnetcorp.com>
> Date: Mon, August 06, 2007 2:59 pm
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: Todd Heide <Todd at equivoice.com>,  rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> I also kept finding these lock files which would not permit RANCID to  
> run, and I would only find out a couple of days later when I noticed  
> some notifications not being sent.
> 
> Si I know it's a bit drastic, but I placed a script in cron.daily to  
> remove these files periodcally.
> 
> ================= clean-locks-rancid  =================
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> rm -rf /tmp/.*.lock
> ==================================================
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Manuel Noriega
> ISP Engineer<hr>13 CALLE 3-40, ZONA 10
> 15 NIVEL, OFICINA 15-01
> GUATEMALA CITY, C.A.
> PBX (502) 2279 0099
> FAX (502) 2279 0003
> 
> www.amnetdatos.com
> 
> 
> On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Lance wrote:
> 
> > Todd,
> >
> > rm /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
> >
> >
> > -Lance
> >
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: [rancid]  File lock help
> >> From: "Todd Heide" <Todd at equivoice.com>
> >> Date: Mon, August 06, 2007 9:32 am
> >> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
> >>
> >> I know I asked this before, but cant find the reply from a year ago.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock exists
> >>
> >> -rw-r-----  1 rancid netadm 0 Aug  2 14:10
> >> /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How do I unlock the files? Also what would have locked them in the  
> >> first
> >> place?<hr>_______________________________________________
> >> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> >> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
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From jbirdsall at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 21:11:58 2007
From: jbirdsall at gmail.com (Jack G Birdsall)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:11:58 -0500
Subject: [rancid]  cisco ips v5.x & Rancid
Message-ID: <a9a64ba20708061411l61942204xcea67ec601dc5912@mail.gmail.com>

I was reading a thread archived a few months back in regards to the Cisco
IPS and Rancid backups. The post included scripts and the relevant clogin
edit. Of the two scripts cited, only the one defined as ciscoips was
archived. A quick google yielded no good results. Anyone here using this or
a similar method? Any guidance is appreciated.
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From rancid at gheek.net  Mon Aug  6 23:29:16 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:29:16 -0700
Subject: [rancid]  [FWD:  Re: Cisco IPS V5.X & Rancid]
Message-ID: <20070806162916.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.138b699d48.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Here you go.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: Cisco IPS V5.X & Rancid
> From: "Jeremy M. Guthrie" <rancid at dangermen.com>
> Date: Mon, May 07, 2007 10:50 am
> To: john heasley <heas at shrubbery.net>
> Cc: Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> The terminal type was what 'made it angry'.
> 
> However, I did fix that and here is the diff for rancid-fe:
> diff --recursive new/ old/
> diff --recursive new/rancid-fe old/rancid-fe
> 35d34
> < elsif ($vendor =~ /^ciscoips$/i)      { exec('ciscoips', $router); }
> 
> The attached are my scripts for the IPS:  ipslogin and ciscoips.
> 
> The AGM setup did not work for me.  I'll dig into that in a bit.
> 
> On Mon, 7 May 2007, john heasley wrote:
> 
> > Mon, May 07, 2007 at 01:11:26AM +0000, rancid at dangermen.com:
> >> I am working on writing a RANCID interpretter for Cisco's IPS V5.X/6.X
> >> line.  I have a modified clogin and have writen the ciscoips subsystem.
> >> The issue I have is that I can manually run the debug file just fine.
> >> However, clogin reports 'Error: EOF received' and dumps out.  Cisco's IPS
> >> accepts the username from SSH but does not prompt again for it.  So my one
> >> modification allows my ciscoips subsystem to tell clogin not to send the
> >> username.  In any case, I'm at a loss as to why I would be getting 'Error:
> >> EOF received'.  If I run the ciscoips -d hostname, I don't see it.
> >> However, if I add it to the router.db, then I get the error message.  Any
> >> backround on the clogin EOF error would be much appreciated.
> >
> > I'd guess that it dislikes the TERM you get from the cron.  The AGM does
> > that, IIRC.
> >
> > BTW, this thing looks awefully similar to the AGM.  Have you tried that
> > rancid device type?
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From cstave at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 17:41:15 2007
From: cstave at gmail.com (Chris Stave)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 13:41:15 -0400
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help
In-Reply-To: <082FEA82DC985B4F8A6B412D5AC4E2207D67F2@exchange.Equivoice.local>
References: <082FEA82DC985B4F8A6B412D5AC4E2207D67F2@exchange.Equivoice.local>
Message-ID: <5471c93d0708061041q5698c9dbp412e162d30f6b14e@mail.gmail.com>

To unlock, you just delete the file in question,
/tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock

This file gets created during the hourly run, and sometimes doesn't get
properly removed.

Chris Stave
Computing and Network Services
Drew University

On 8/6/07, Todd Heide <Todd at equivoice.com> wrote:
>
>  I know I asked this before, but cant find the reply from a year ago.
>
>
>
> hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock exists
>
> -rw-r-----  1 rancid netadm 0 Aug  2 14:10 /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How do I unlock the files? Also what would have locked them in the first
> place?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
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From p.mahan at ucl.ac.uk  Tue Aug  7 10:43:29 2007
From: p.mahan at ucl.ac.uk (Paul Mahan)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:43:29 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  IOS Commands
Message-ID: <006701c7d8df$caef5e60$47132880@tallpaul>

Hi,

We have Cisco 1200/ 1130 Access Points running IOS. I've got RANCID up and
running and everything appears to be OK except the diff command on the
flash. For whatever reason the timestamp on the flash files changes by a
matter of seconds:

<...
===================================================================
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -U 4 -r1.4 <removed>
@@ -26,12 +26,12 @@
  !BootFlash:       buffer size:   32768
  !BootFlash:       Mode Button:    on
  !
  !Flash: Directory of flash:/
- !Flash:     2  -rwx        6642  Jul 30 2007 01:01:14 +00:00  config.txt
- !Flash:     4  -rwx        3860  Jul 30 2007 01:01:14 +00:00
private-config
+ !Flash:     2  -rwx        3860  Jul 31 2007 01:01:20 +00:00
private-config
+ !Flash:     4  -rwx        3096  Jul 31 2007 01:01:20 +00:00
private-multiple-fs
+ !Flash:     3  -rwx        6642  Jul 31 2007 01:01:20 +00:00  config.txt
  !Flash:     7  drwx         512  Jan 16 2007 23:32:55 +00:00
c1200-k9w7-mx.123-8.JEA
- !Flash:     5  -rwx        3096  Jul 30 2007 01:01:14 +00:00
private-multiple-fs
  !Flash:     6  -rwx         790  Mar 01 2002 00:00:09 +00:00  env_vars
  !Flash: 7741440 bytes total (2767872 bytes free)
  !
  !
...>

Subsequently, every time RANCID is executed a diff in the flash is found on
router.db device and a 1Mb config diff file is emailed out. I've commented
out all dir and show flash commands in the @commandtable section of the
/usr/local/rancid/bin/rancid file but it is still emailing diffs in the
flash. Anyone got any suggestions?

Paul




From yuval.ben.ari at gmail.com  Tue Aug  7 14:59:10 2007
From: yuval.ben.ari at gmail.com (Yuval Ben Ari)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:59:10 +0300
Subject: [rancid]  running rancid-run manually generates false changes
Message-ID: <def57efd0708070759y7d31b5c8l3cd81f692e0a2672@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I have a strange and annoying problem.
when rancid-run is launched from cronjob (on user "rancid" crontab) all is ok.
but if I try to run it manually on some groups or router even if I am
logged in as user rancid while doing it, it create false diffs of
router in all the groups and I get following mail:

-----------
Subject: changes in groupname routers
Routers changed to up:
        routerx:cisco

Added routers:
        routerx:cisco

Deleted routers:
        routerx:cisco
-----------

 such mail for every group I have.

also if I try to run with command like this:
/bin/su --command="/home/rancid/bin/rancid-run -r routername" - rancid

I found it is related to control_rancid which falsely detects a change
for some reason.

any idea ?

Thanks

From david+rancid at luyer.net  Tue Aug  7 16:57:20 2007
From: david+rancid at luyer.net (David Luyer)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 09:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [rancid] Re: running rancid-run manually generates false changes
In-Reply-To: <def57efd0708070759y7d31b5c8l3cd81f692e0a2672@mail.gmail.com>
References: <def57efd0708070759y7d31b5c8l3cd81f692e0a2672@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52773.208.201.244.10.1186505840.squirrel@www.luyer.net>

> Hi,
> I have a strange and annoying problem.
> when rancid-run is launched from cronjob (on user "rancid" crontab) all is
> ok.
> but if I try to run it manually on some groups or router even if I am
> logged in as user rancid while doing it, it create false diffs of
> router in all the groups and I get following mail:
>
> -----------
> Subject: changes in groupname routers
> Routers changed to up:
>         routerx:cisco
>
> Added routers:
>         routerx:cisco
>
> Deleted routers:
>         routerx:cisco
> -----------

I take it you have multiple routers in each of these sections of the email?

Some of the state files from RANCID are sorted.  Some of the tools in the
control_rancid script assume consistent sorting of the 'before' and 'after'
files.

Your cron daemon and your login session may be using different locales
(with different sort orders)?

David.


From rancid at gheek.net  Tue Aug  7 20:09:18 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:09:18 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: IOS Commands
Message-ID: <20070807130918.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.efb68fc7e3.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Paul,

I have RANCID ignore the flash as it has no real relevance to me. You
can comment it out in you bin/rancid script file where it mentions
commands. Look for ShowRun that should help you find the area I am
talking about. It is in an array toward the bottom.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  IOS Commands
> From: "Paul Mahan" <p.mahan at ucl.ac.uk>
> Date: Tue, August 07, 2007 3:43 am
> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We have Cisco 1200/ 1130 Access Points running IOS. I've got RANCID up and
> running and everything appears to be OK except the diff command on the
> flash. For whatever reason the timestamp on the flash files changes by a
> matter of seconds:
> 
> <...
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.4
> diff -U 4 -r1.4 <removed>
> @@ -26,12 +26,12 @@
>   !BootFlash:       buffer size:   32768
>   !BootFlash:       Mode Button:    on
>   !
>   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> - !Flash:     2  -rwx        6642  Jul 30 2007 01:01:14 +00:00  config.txt
> - !Flash:     4  -rwx        3860  Jul 30 2007 01:01:14 +00:00
> private-config
> + !Flash:     2  -rwx        3860  Jul 31 2007 01:01:20 +00:00
> private-config
> + !Flash:     4  -rwx        3096  Jul 31 2007 01:01:20 +00:00
> private-multiple-fs
> + !Flash:     3  -rwx        6642  Jul 31 2007 01:01:20 +00:00  config.txt
>   !Flash:     7  drwx         512  Jan 16 2007 23:32:55 +00:00
> c1200-k9w7-mx.123-8.JEA
> - !Flash:     5  -rwx        3096  Jul 30 2007 01:01:14 +00:00
> private-multiple-fs
>   !Flash:     6  -rwx         790  Mar 01 2002 00:00:09 +00:00  env_vars
>   !Flash: 7741440 bytes total (2767872 bytes free)
>   !
>   !
> ...>
> 
> Subsequently, every time RANCID is executed a diff in the flash is found on
> router.db device and a 1Mb config diff file is emailed out. I've commented
> out all dir and show flash commands in the @commandtable section of the
> /usr/local/rancid/bin/rancid file but it is still emailing diffs in the
> flash. Anyone got any suggestions?
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss


From rancid at gheek.net  Tue Aug  7 20:12:34 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:12:34 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: running rancid-run manually generates false changes
Message-ID: <20070807131234.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.4a7a9967ef.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

David/Yuval,

Make sure you source the /etc/rancid.conf file so that you have all the
same environmental variable...including TERM. Different TERMs cause
weird issues.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: running rancid-run manually generates false
> changes
> From: "David Luyer" <david+rancid at luyer.net>
> Date: Tue, August 07, 2007 9:57 am
> To: "Yuval Ben Ari" <yuval.ben.ari at gmail.com>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> > Hi,
> > I have a strange and annoying problem.
> > when rancid-run is launched from cronjob (on user "rancid" crontab) all is
> > ok.
> > but if I try to run it manually on some groups or router even if I am
> > logged in as user rancid while doing it, it create false diffs of
> > router in all the groups and I get following mail:
> >
> > -----------
> > Subject: changes in groupname routers
> > Routers changed to up:
> >         routerx:cisco
> >
> > Added routers:
> >         routerx:cisco
> >
> > Deleted routers:
> >         routerx:cisco
> > -----------
> 
> I take it you have multiple routers in each of these sections of the email?
> 
> Some of the state files from RANCID are sorted.  Some of the tools in the
> control_rancid script assume consistent sorting of the 'before' and 'after'
> files.
> 
> Your cron daemon and your login session may be using different locales
> (with different sort orders)?
> 
> David.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss


From aevans at kineto.com  Tue Aug  7 20:35:51 2007
From: aevans at kineto.com (Alan Evans)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:35:51 -0700
Subject: [rancid]   Re: File lock help
In-Reply-To: <5471c93d0708061041q5698c9dbp412e162d30f6b14e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <082FEA82DC985B4F8A6B412D5AC4E2207D67F2@exchange.Equivoice.local>
	<5471c93d0708061041q5698c9dbp412e162d30f6b14e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1D972A80F9E0646934C7595F1CCBC5E03101A1C@bluz.bluzona.com>

This maybe a coincidence but I started to get the same problem a couple of days ago.
Rancid would hang after a while and I had to "kill -9" a number of rancid processes and then remove the lock file. It would work for about 12 hours and then hang again.

I knew about the expect patch but hadn't applied it because I didn't have any problems. I applied the expect patch to see if this would fix my problem but it made things worse. After applying the patch I did not get any output in the .new files.

I fixed my problem (hopefully) by installing the ActiveState's ActiveTcl distribution (http://www.activestate.com/Products/activetcl/). 

This distribution includes expect as a package to tclsh rather than a separate executable therefore if you want to use ActiveTcl's expect you need to change the first line in the rancid login scripts:

From:
# /usr/bin/expect --

To something like this:
#! /usr/local/ActiveTcl-8.4/bin/tclsh8.4
package require Expect

cheers
AlanE

________________________________________
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Chris Stave
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:41 AM
To: Todd Heide
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help

To unlock, you just delete the file in question, /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock

This file gets created during the hourly run, and sometimes doesn't get properly removed. 

Chris Stave
Computing and Network Services
Drew University
On 8/6/07, Todd Heide <Todd at equivoice.com > wrote:
I know I asked this before, but cant find the reply from a year ago. 
?
hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock exists
-rw-r-----? 1 rancid netadm 0 Aug? 2 14:10 /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
?
?
?
How do I unlock the files? Also what would have locked them in the first place? 

_______________________________________________
Rancid-discuss mailing list
Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss


From Todd at equivoice.com  Tue Aug  7 21:02:16 2007
From: Todd at equivoice.com (Todd Heide)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 16:02:16 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help
In-Reply-To: <E1D972A80F9E0646934C7595F1CCBC5E03101A1C@bluz.bluzona.com>
Message-ID: <082FEA82DC985B4F8A6B412D5AC4E2207D6946@exchange.Equivoice.local>

My servers problem was due to it occasionally going into read only state due to a SCSI bios issue I have yet to fix. A new server is being built to replace it, slowly. I just haven't been checking on it for a while and found the locked file state when I noticed the router.db file for one group wasn't updated after I added some devices and did a rancid-run. It was a DOH moment for me because I forgot the darn file is hidden and I didn't see it to delete it. All is working fine for me. I like the Fedora Core server version that I run, other than the hardware issue, it has performed flawlessly. 


Nothing ever goes as planned, Its a hell of a notion, 
Even pharaohs turn to sand, Like a drop in the ocean

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Alan Evans
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:36 PM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help

This maybe a coincidence but I started to get the same problem a couple of days ago.
Rancid would hang after a while and I had to "kill -9" a number of rancid processes and then remove the lock file. It would work for about 12 hours and then hang again.

I knew about the expect patch but hadn't applied it because I didn't have any problems. I applied the expect patch to see if this would fix my problem but it made things worse. After applying the patch I did not get any output in the .new files.

I fixed my problem (hopefully) by installing the ActiveState's ActiveTcl distribution (http://www.activestate.com/Products/activetcl/). 

This distribution includes expect as a package to tclsh rather than a separate executable therefore if you want to use ActiveTcl's expect you need to change the first line in the rancid login scripts:

From:
# /usr/bin/expect --

To something like this:
#! /usr/local/ActiveTcl-8.4/bin/tclsh8.4
package require Expect

cheers
AlanE

________________________________________
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Chris Stave
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 10:41 AM
To: Todd Heide
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help

To unlock, you just delete the file in question, /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock

This file gets created during the hourly run, and sometimes doesn't get properly removed. 

Chris Stave
Computing and Network Services
Drew University
On 8/6/07, Todd Heide <Todd at equivoice.com > wrote:
I know I asked this before, but cant find the reply from a year ago. 
?
hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock exists
-rw-r-----? 1 rancid netadm 0 Aug? 2 14:10 /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
?
?
?
How do I unlock the files? Also what would have locked them in the first place? 

_______________________________________________
Rancid-discuss mailing list
Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss

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Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
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From mnoriega at amnetcorp.com  Mon Aug  6 21:59:33 2007
From: mnoriega at amnetcorp.com (Manuel Noriega)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:59:33 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help
In-Reply-To: <20070806113710.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.e54e20acf1.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070806113710.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.e54e20acf1.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <13F61827-01A9-472F-95F7-78A6D65DDB94@amnetcorp.com>

I also kept finding these lock files which would not permit RANCID to  
run, and I would only find out a couple of days later when I noticed  
some notifications not being sent.

Si I know it's a bit drastic, but I placed a script in cron.daily to  
remove these files periodcally.

================= clean-locks-rancid  =================
#!/bin/sh

rm -rf /tmp/.*.lock
==================================================


Sincerely,

Manuel Noriega
ISP Engineer

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On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Lance wrote:

> Todd,
>
> rm /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
>
>
> -Lance
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [rancid]  File lock help
>> From: "Todd Heide" <Todd at equivoice.com>
>> Date: Mon, August 06, 2007 9:32 am
>> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
>>
>> I know I asked this before, but cant find the reply from a year ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> hourly config diffs failed: /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock exists
>>
>> -rw-r-----  1 rancid netadm 0 Aug  2 14:10
>> /tmp/.Customer_Routers.run.lock
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How do I unlock the files? Also what would have locked them in the  
>> first
>> place?<hr>_______________________________________________
>> Rancid-discuss mailing list
>> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>
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From lance at gheek.net  Tue Aug  7 20:11:20 2007
From: lance at gheek.net (Lance Vermilion)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:11:20 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: running rancid-run manually generates false changes
Message-ID: <20070807131120.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.d377b11303.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

David/Yuval,

Make sure you source the /etc/rancid.conf file so that you have all the
same environmental variable...including TERM. Different TERMs cause
weird issues.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid] Re: running rancid-run manually generates false
> changes
> From: "David Luyer" <david+rancid at luyer.net>
> Date: Tue, August 07, 2007 9:57 am
> To: "Yuval Ben Ari" <yuval.ben.ari at gmail.com>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> > Hi,
> > I have a strange and annoying problem.
> > when rancid-run is launched from cronjob (on user "rancid" crontab) all is
> > ok.
> > but if I try to run it manually on some groups or router even if I am
> > logged in as user rancid while doing it, it create false diffs of
> > router in all the groups and I get following mail:
> >
> > -----------
> > Subject: changes in groupname routers
> > Routers changed to up:
> >         routerx:cisco
> >
> > Added routers:
> >         routerx:cisco
> >
> > Deleted routers:
> >         routerx:cisco
> > -----------
> 
> I take it you have multiple routers in each of these sections of the email?
> 
> Some of the state files from RANCID are sorted.  Some of the tools in the
> control_rancid script assume consistent sorting of the 'before' and 'after'
> files.
> 
> Your cron daemon and your login session may be using different locales
> (with different sort orders)?
> 
> David.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss


From heas at shrubbery.net  Thu Aug  9 16:50:45 2007
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:50:45 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help
In-Reply-To: <20070806153110.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.012322063e.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070806153110.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.012322063e.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <20070809165045.GJ10998@shrubbery.net>

Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 03:31:10PM -0700, Lance:
> These lock files should never be left behind unless the scripts aren't
> finishing correctly.

even if they do not finish correctly, the lock should be removed via the
signal handler.  only if the machine crashed, it received a KILL signal,
or the scripts are hung, should the lock file remain.

if a script is hung, and you're using linux or solaris, please ensure
that you have installed an expect(1) with the patch available on the
rancid site.

From heas at shrubbery.net  Thu Aug  9 16:58:41 2007
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 16:58:41 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: File lock help
In-Reply-To: <E1D972A80F9E0646934C7595F1CCBC5E03101A1C@bluz.bluzona.com>
References: <082FEA82DC985B4F8A6B412D5AC4E2207D67F2@exchange.Equivoice.local>
	<5471c93d0708061041q5698c9dbp412e162d30f6b14e@mail.gmail.com>
	<E1D972A80F9E0646934C7595F1CCBC5E03101A1C@bluz.bluzona.com>
Message-ID: <20070809165841.GK10998@shrubbery.net>

Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 01:35:51PM -0700, Alan Evans:
> I knew about the expect patch but hadn't applied it because I didn't have any problems. I applied the expect patch to see if this would fix my problem but it made things worse. After applying the patch I did not get any output in the .new files.

This would lead me to believe that the patch was not applied properly or
the problem is completely different, such as a duplex mismatch on your
network interface.  The patch is very simple and can not have the reverse
affect.

From cgauthie at pcc.edu  Thu Aug  9 21:29:23 2007
From: cgauthie at pcc.edu (Chris Gauthier)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:29:23 -0700
Subject: [rancid]  Foundry EdgeIron switches
Message-ID: <46BB8733.2020703@pcc.edu>

Our organization uses Foundry EdgeIron switches, but the OS those run is 
completely different than the rest of Foundry's offerings.  Has anyone 
used Rancid to monitor those devices?  Any help is appreciated.

The commands run by flogin work on the other devices, but not on the EIF 
line of switches (except show version works).  These are: show version, 
show chassis, show module, show flash, and write term.  I'm listing the 
equivalent commands (where possible) for the EIF2402/4802CF switch OS 
(as of v2.2.7.18):

show version = show version
show chassis (no equivalent)
show module (no equivalent)
show flash = dir
write term = show running-config

Thanks,

Chris

-- 
Chris Gauthier, CCNA, Network+, A+
Network Administration Team
Portland Community College
Portland, Oregon

"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return."
--Leonardo da Vinci


From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Aug 10 17:50:03 2007
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:50:03 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Foundry EdgeIron switches
In-Reply-To: <46BB8733.2020703@pcc.edu>
References: <46BB8733.2020703@pcc.edu>
Message-ID: <20070810175003.GE21815@shrubbery.net>

Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:29:23PM -0700, Chris Gauthier:
> Our organization uses Foundry EdgeIron switches, but the OS those run is 
> completely different than the rest of Foundry's offerings.  Has anyone 
> used Rancid to monitor those devices?  Any help is appreciated.
> 
> The commands run by flogin work on the other devices, but not on the EIF 
> line of switches (except show version works).  These are: show version, 
> show chassis, show module, show flash, and write term.  I'm listing the 
> equivalent commands (where possible) for the EIF2402/4802CF switch OS 
> (as of v2.2.7.18):
> 
> show version = show version
> show chassis (no equivalent)
> show module (no equivalent)
> show flash = dir
> write term = show running-config

I've not managed to arrange access to one of these, but it should be easy
to add support.  it should ignore the (errors from) commands that do not
work and collect the rest.  and, try adding the dir command

	{'dir /all'           => 'ShowFlash'},

or whatever they dreamt up to show all files on all filesystems.

From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Aug 10 18:25:46 2007
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:25:46 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: running rancid-run manually generates false changes
In-Reply-To: <20070807131234.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.4a7a9967ef.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070807131234.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.4a7a9967ef.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <20070810182546.GB27950@shrubbery.net>

rancid-run will source the config file itself.

I believe it was mentioned already, but you SHOULD NOT run rancid-run et al
as any user except the rancid pseudo user [unless you know what you're doing].
Only the login scripts are intended to be used outside of rancid.

Withou the proper permissions, that the rancid pseudo user would normally
have, the results are undefined.

And, David points out the subtle differences you can experience with an
interactive shell compared to one from cron.

Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 01:12:34PM -0700, Lance:
> David/Yuval,
> 
> Make sure you source the /etc/rancid.conf file so that you have all the
> same environmental variable...including TERM. Different TERMs cause
> weird issues.
> 
> -Lance
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [rancid] Re: running rancid-run manually generates false
> > changes
> > From: "David Luyer" <david+rancid at luyer.net>
> > Date: Tue, August 07, 2007 9:57 am
> > To: "Yuval Ben Ari" <yuval.ben.ari at gmail.com>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a strange and annoying problem.
> > > when rancid-run is launched from cronjob (on user "rancid" crontab) all is
> > > ok.
> > > but if I try to run it manually on some groups or router even if I am
> > > logged in as user rancid while doing it, it create false diffs of
> > > router in all the groups and I get following mail:
> > >
> > > -----------
> > > Subject: changes in groupname routers
> > > Routers changed to up:
> > >         routerx:cisco
> > >
> > > Added routers:
> > >         routerx:cisco
> > >
> > > Deleted routers:
> > >         routerx:cisco
> > > -----------
> > 
> > I take it you have multiple routers in each of these sections of the email?
> > 
> > Some of the state files from RANCID are sorted.  Some of the tools in the
> > control_rancid script assume consistent sorting of the 'before' and 'after'
> > files.
> > 
> > Your cron daemon and your login session may be using different locales
> > (with different sort orders)?
> > 
> > David.

From yraffah at gmail.com  Sun Aug 12 06:44:09 2007
From: yraffah at gmail.com (Yousef Raffah)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 09:44:09 +0300
Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
Message-ID: <c663e0800708112344h33b1b754wd4a454659225c9d9@mail.gmail.com>

Hello..

I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
a lot for creating such great tools.

One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:

@@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
  !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
  !
  !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
  !Flash: Directory of flash:/
- !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
  !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
+ !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
  !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
  !
  !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
  !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config

Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE

Thanks in advance for any help

-- 
 -------------------
|Yousef Raffah|
 --------------------------------
 http://yousef.raffah.com |
 --------------------------------

From dusle at comcast.net  Sat Aug 11 02:52:44 2007
From: dusle at comcast.net (dennis usle)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:52:44 -0000
Subject: [rancid]  Mulitple Context Cisco fwsm backups
Message-ID: <000001c7dbc0$3010a730$6402a8c0@atx.com>

Hello,

I've been reading up on a post during my research to utilize RANCID to backup a multiple context Cisco FWSM.  I've not found any verification or conclusive answer to a dynamic solution.  Here is the post I've found you were involved and reccommended a solution. Are you aware if anyone has been successfull with this task?   If this was successfull, would you be willing to share example copies of the scripts used?

http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2007-March/002146.html

Thanks in advance, your time is very much appreciated!

Dennis Usle
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From rancid at gheek.net  Sun Aug 12 17:17:14 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:17:14 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
Message-ID: <20070812101714.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.1fc09fadb8.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Yousef,

Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
comment out the command.

-Lance
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> Hello..
> 
> I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> a lot for creating such great tools.
> 
> One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> 
> @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
>   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
>   !
>   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
>   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
>   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
>   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
>   !
>   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
>   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> 
> Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help
> 
> -- 
>  -------------------
> |Yousef Raffah|
>  --------------------------------
>  http://yousef.raffah.com |
>  --------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss


From rancid at gheek.net  Sun Aug 12 17:44:52 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:44:52 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Mulitple Context Cisco fwsm backups
Message-ID: <20070812104452.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.de4278562d.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Dennis,

A few weeks back I purposed a solution for this as well. This would be
completely dynamic and would be fairly easy to do. I just have not had
the time to do as of yet. I will be looking at doing it in the near
future.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  Mulitple Context Cisco fwsm backups
> From: "dennis usle" <dusle at comcast.net>
> Date: Tue, July 24, 2007 9:16 pm
> To: <rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net>
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've been reading up on a post during my research to utilize RANCID to backup a multiple context Cisco FWSM.  I've not found any verification or conclusive answer to a dynamic solution.  Here is the post I've found you were involved and reccommended a solution. Are you aware if anyone has been successfull with this task?   If this was successfull, would you be willing to share example copies of the scripts used?
> 
> http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2007-March/002146.html
> 
> Thanks in advance, your time is very much appreciated!
> 
> Dennis Usle<hr>_______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss


From yraffah at gmail.com  Sun Aug 12 22:55:42 2007
From: yraffah at gmail.com (Yousef Raffah)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:55:42 +0300
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
In-Reply-To: <20070812101714.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.1fc09fadb8.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070812101714.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.1fc09fadb8.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <c663e0800708121555k544a0c17pbafa6040ce0c604c@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> Yousef,
>
> Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> comment out the command.
>
I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
Thanks in advance...

> -Lance
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > Hello..
> >
> > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > a lot for creating such great tools.
> >
> > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> >
> > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> >   !
> >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> >   !
> >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> >
> > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help
> >
> > --
> >  -------------------
> > |Yousef Raffah|
> >  --------------------------------
> >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> >  --------------------------------
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>
>


-- 
 -------------------
|Yousef Raffah|
 --------------------------------
 http://yousef.raffah.com |
 --------------------------------

From david at infotrek.co.uk  Mon Aug 13 14:19:26 2007
From: david at infotrek.co.uk (David Croft)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:19:26 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  ASA line indentation
Message-ID: <c28c250d0708130719h4c53b5e0he3ba39211fae1301@mail.gmail.com>

I have a weird problem with the Cisco ASA 5540. For some reason, the
indentation of various lines of the config keeps changing. This only
seems to happen when I actually change the config - I change one line
in the config, and then a load of extra bogus diffs appear that are
just indentation changes.

For example, in the config below, the only genuine change I made was
to add dns-guard, but lots of extra diffs appear.

It doesn't cause any extra mails to be sent, since it does only happen
when I do change something, but it does show a load of spurious diffs.

Has anyone else found this and is there a way to work around this in
rancid - for example by removing all leading spaces from every line
before storing it in CVS?

Regards,

David


Index: configs/fw01-active.x.x.net.uk
===================================================================
retrieving revision 1.87
diff -u -4 -r1.87 fw01-active.x.x.net.uk
@@ -67,8 +67,9 @@
 hostname fw01
 domain-name x.x.net.uk
 enable password x encrypted
 names
+ dns-guard
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/0
  description to core routers via vlan 5 on distribution switches
  speed 1000
@@ -82,10 +83,10 @@
  description to distribution switches via vlan 6
  speed 1000
  duplex full
  nameif inside
-  security-level 50
- ip address x 255.255.255.248 standby x
+ security-level 50
+  ip address x 255.255.255.248 standby x
  ospf cost 10
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/2
  speed 1000
@@ -105,10 +106,10 @@
 !
 interface Management0/0
  speed 100
  duplex full
-  nameif management
- security-level 100
+ nameif management
+  security-level 100
  ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 standby 192.168.0.199
  ospf cost 10
  ospf network point-to-point non-broadcast
  management-only
@@ -128,10 +129,10 @@
  description to noc 3560
  speed 1000
  duplex full
  nameif inside-noc
-  security-level 100
- no ip address
+ security-level 100
+  no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet1/3
  shutdown
  no nameif
@@ -221,9 +222,9 @@
  area 0
  log-adj-changes
 !
 router eigrp 1
- no auto-summary
+  no auto-summary
  neighbor x interface inside
  neighbor x interface inside
  network x 255.255.255.248
 !
@@ -266,10 +267,10 @@
 sysopt noproxyarp inside-noc
 sla monitor 1
  type echo protocol ipIcmpEcho x interface outside
  timeout 2000
-  threshold 4000
- frequency 5
+ threshold 4000
+  frequency 5
 sla monitor schedule 1 life forever start-time now
 sla monitor 2
  type echo protocol ipIcmpEcho x interface outside
  timeout 2000
@@ -357,6 +358,6 @@
 tunnel-group Remote-Staff ipsec-attributes
  pre-shared-key *
 smtp-server x x
 prompt hostname context
- Cryptochecksum:9ada600f57fb6994832ba5bcef07562b
+ Cryptochecksum:db711fa252d3a044ca708fc6099a8af2
 : end

From rancid at gheek.net  Mon Aug 13 17:35:16 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:35:16 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
Message-ID: <20070813103516.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.ab7e5f389c.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Yousef,

edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
don't want to run. 

If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
you.

-lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > Yousef,
> >
> > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > comment out the command.
> >
> I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> Thanks in advance...
> 
> > -Lance
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > Hello..
> > >
> > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > >
> > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > >
> > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > >   !
> > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > >   !
> > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > >
> > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > >
> > > --
> > >  -------------------
> > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > >  --------------------------------
> > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > >  --------------------------------
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
>  -------------------
> |Yousef Raffah|
>  --------------------------------
>  http://yousef.raffah.com |
>  --------------------------------


From rancid at gheek.net  Mon Aug 13 17:39:34 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:39:34 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA line indentation
Message-ID: <20070813103934.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.82cab026d7.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

David,

Funky I have no such issue here. try doing a cat -vet on your file and
then look back 1 revision and pipe it to cat -vet too.

If you use CVS, you can get the previous revision like so. Assuming you
are using the defaults the CVS would be in the RANCID home dir and under
var/CVS. :)

cvs diff -r $previous-revision -r $current-revision $router-switch

-Lance


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  ASA line indentation
> From: "David Croft" <david at infotrek.co.uk>
> Date: Mon, August 13, 2007 7:19 am
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> I have a weird problem with the Cisco ASA 5540. For some reason, the
> indentation of various lines of the config keeps changing. This only
> seems to happen when I actually change the config - I change one line
> in the config, and then a load of extra bogus diffs appear that are
> just indentation changes.
> 
> For example, in the config below, the only genuine change I made was
> to add dns-guard, but lots of extra diffs appear.
> 
> It doesn't cause any extra mails to be sent, since it does only happen
> when I do change something, but it does show a load of spurious diffs.
> 
> Has anyone else found this and is there a way to work around this in
> rancid - for example by removing all leading spaces from every line
> before storing it in CVS?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David
> 
> 
> Index: configs/fw01-active.x.x.net.uk
> ===================================================================
> retrieving revision 1.87
> diff -u -4 -r1.87 fw01-active.x.x.net.uk
> @@ -67,8 +67,9 @@
>  hostname fw01
>  domain-name x.x.net.uk
>  enable password x encrypted
>  names
> + dns-guard
>  !
>  interface GigabitEthernet0/0
>   description to core routers via vlan 5 on distribution switches
>   speed 1000
> @@ -82,10 +83,10 @@
>   description to distribution switches via vlan 6
>   speed 1000
>   duplex full
>   nameif inside
> -  security-level 50
> - ip address x 255.255.255.248 standby x
> + security-level 50
> +  ip address x 255.255.255.248 standby x
>   ospf cost 10
>  !
>  interface GigabitEthernet0/2
>   speed 1000
> @@ -105,10 +106,10 @@
>  !
>  interface Management0/0
>   speed 100
>   duplex full
> -  nameif management
> - security-level 100
> + nameif management
> +  security-level 100
>   ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 standby 192.168.0.199
>   ospf cost 10
>   ospf network point-to-point non-broadcast
>   management-only
> @@ -128,10 +129,10 @@
>   description to noc 3560
>   speed 1000
>   duplex full
>   nameif inside-noc
> -  security-level 100
> - no ip address
> + security-level 100
> +  no ip address
>  !
>  interface GigabitEthernet1/3
>   shutdown
>   no nameif
> @@ -221,9 +222,9 @@
>   area 0
>   log-adj-changes
>  !
>  router eigrp 1
> - no auto-summary
> +  no auto-summary
>   neighbor x interface inside
>   neighbor x interface inside
>   network x 255.255.255.248
>  !
> @@ -266,10 +267,10 @@
>  sysopt noproxyarp inside-noc
>  sla monitor 1
>   type echo protocol ipIcmpEcho x interface outside
>   timeout 2000
> -  threshold 4000
> - frequency 5
> + threshold 4000
> +  frequency 5
>  sla monitor schedule 1 life forever start-time now
>  sla monitor 2
>   type echo protocol ipIcmpEcho x interface outside
>   timeout 2000
> @@ -357,6 +358,6 @@
>  tunnel-group Remote-Staff ipsec-attributes
>   pre-shared-key *
>  smtp-server x x
>  prompt hostname context
> - Cryptochecksum:9ada600f57fb6994832ba5bcef07562b
> + Cryptochecksum:db711fa252d3a044ca708fc6099a8af2
>  : end
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss


From heas at shrubbery.net  Mon Aug 13 17:57:16 2007
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:57:16 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: ASA line indentation
In-Reply-To: <20070813103934.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.82cab026d7.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070813103934.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.82cab026d7.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <20070813175716.GB10333@shrubbery.net>

Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 10:39:34AM -0700, Lance:
> David,
> 
> Funky I have no such issue here. try doing a cat -vet on your file and
> then look back 1 revision and pipe it to cat -vet too.

agreed.  either the box is doing this, or this screen manipulation junk
or some botch with handling the box's pager.  does the pager get disabled
on this platform?

> If you use CVS, you can get the previous revision like so. Assuming you
> are using the defaults the CVS would be in the RANCID home dir and under
> var/CVS. :)
> 
> cvs diff -r $previous-revision -r $current-revision $router-switch
> 
> -Lance
> 
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [rancid]  ASA line indentation
> > From: "David Croft" <david at infotrek.co.uk>
> > Date: Mon, August 13, 2007 7:19 am
> > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > 
> > I have a weird problem with the Cisco ASA 5540. For some reason, the
> > indentation of various lines of the config keeps changing. This only
> > seems to happen when I actually change the config - I change one line
> > in the config, and then a load of extra bogus diffs appear that are
> > just indentation changes.
> > 
> > For example, in the config below, the only genuine change I made was
> > to add dns-guard, but lots of extra diffs appear.
> > 
> > It doesn't cause any extra mails to be sent, since it does only happen
> > when I do change something, but it does show a load of spurious diffs.
> > 
> > Has anyone else found this and is there a way to work around this in
> > rancid - for example by removing all leading spaces from every line
> > before storing it in CVS?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > 
> > Index: configs/fw01-active.x.x.net.uk
> > ===================================================================
> > retrieving revision 1.87
> > diff -u -4 -r1.87 fw01-active.x.x.net.uk
> > @@ -67,8 +67,9 @@
> >  hostname fw01
> >  domain-name x.x.net.uk
> >  enable password x encrypted
> >  names
> > + dns-guard
> >  !
> >  interface GigabitEthernet0/0
> >   description to core routers via vlan 5 on distribution switches
> >   speed 1000
> > @@ -82,10 +83,10 @@
> >   description to distribution switches via vlan 6
> >   speed 1000
> >   duplex full
> >   nameif inside
> > -  security-level 50
> > - ip address x 255.255.255.248 standby x
> > + security-level 50
> > +  ip address x 255.255.255.248 standby x
> >   ospf cost 10
> >  !
> >  interface GigabitEthernet0/2
> >   speed 1000
> > @@ -105,10 +106,10 @@
> >  !
> >  interface Management0/0
> >   speed 100
> >   duplex full
> > -  nameif management
> > - security-level 100
> > + nameif management
> > +  security-level 100
> >   ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 standby 192.168.0.199
> >   ospf cost 10
> >   ospf network point-to-point non-broadcast
> >   management-only
> > @@ -128,10 +129,10 @@
> >   description to noc 3560
> >   speed 1000
> >   duplex full
> >   nameif inside-noc
> > -  security-level 100
> > - no ip address
> > + security-level 100
> > +  no ip address
> >  !
> >  interface GigabitEthernet1/3
> >   shutdown
> >   no nameif
> > @@ -221,9 +222,9 @@
> >   area 0
> >   log-adj-changes
> >  !
> >  router eigrp 1
> > - no auto-summary
> > +  no auto-summary
> >   neighbor x interface inside
> >   neighbor x interface inside
> >   network x 255.255.255.248
> >  !
> > @@ -266,10 +267,10 @@
> >  sysopt noproxyarp inside-noc
> >  sla monitor 1
> >   type echo protocol ipIcmpEcho x interface outside
> >   timeout 2000
> > -  threshold 4000
> > - frequency 5
> > + threshold 4000
> > +  frequency 5
> >  sla monitor schedule 1 life forever start-time now
> >  sla monitor 2
> >   type echo protocol ipIcmpEcho x interface outside
> >   timeout 2000
> > @@ -357,6 +358,6 @@
> >  tunnel-group Remote-Staff ipsec-attributes
> >   pre-shared-key *
> >  smtp-server x x
> >  prompt hostname context
> > - Cryptochecksum:9ada600f57fb6994832ba5bcef07562b
> > + Cryptochecksum:db711fa252d3a044ca708fc6099a8af2
> >  : end
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Rancid-discuss mailing list
> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss

From yraffah at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 13:02:08 2007
From: yraffah at gmail.com (Yousef Raffah)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:02:08 +0300
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
In-Reply-To: <20070813103516.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.ab7e5f389c.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070813103516.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.ab7e5f389c.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <c663e0800708140602h5097d3c7u6fb95f4cb4b65dfa@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?

I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
help me with that?

Thanks in advance.

On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> Yousef,
>
> edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> don't want to run.
>
> If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> you.
>
> -lance
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > Yousef,
> > >
> > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > comment out the command.
> > >
> > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > Thanks in advance...
> >
> > > -Lance
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > Hello..
> > > >
> > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > >
> > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > >
> > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > >   !
> > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > >   !
> > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > >
> > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  -------------------
> > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  -------------------
> > |Yousef Raffah|
> >  --------------------------------
> >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> >  --------------------------------
>
>


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From rancid at gheek.net  Tue Aug 14 18:40:04 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:40:04 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
Message-ID: <20070814114004.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.1f1d360db5.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Yousef,

**NOTE**
In this email when I am talking about the application as a WHOLE is say
"RANCID". When I talk about files I will say something like "rancid"
"clogin" "rancid-cvs" etc. Hopefully this makes it easier to understand
what I am talking about.

If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
location for the bin files of RANCID.

/usr/local/rancid/bin/

the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> 
> I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> help me with that?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > Yousef,
> >
> > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > don't want to run.
> >
> > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > you.
> >
> > -lance
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > Yousef,
> > > >
> > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > comment out the command.
> > > >
> > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > Thanks in advance...
> > >
> > > > -Lance
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello..
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > >
> > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > >   !
> > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > >   !
> > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > >
> > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  -------------------
> > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > >  --------------------------------
> > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > >  --------------------------------
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
>  -------------------
> |Yousef Raffah|
>  --------------------------------
>  http://yousef.raffah.com |
>  --------------------------------


From yraffah at gmail.com  Wed Aug 15 07:25:15 2007
From: yraffah at gmail.com (Yousef Raffah)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:25:15 +0300
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
In-Reply-To: <20070814114004.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.1f1d360db5.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070814114004.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.1f1d360db5.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <c663e0800708150025o6af06cedo2ad3faa4dc6d4573@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/14/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> Yousef,
>
>
> If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
> location for the bin files of RANCID.
>
> /usr/local/rancid/bin/
>
I'm using FreeBSD and it installs it under /usr/local/libexec/rancind/bin

> the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
> The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
> script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
> You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
> of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
> specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.
>
I found it, but is this the right line to comment
'dir /all nvram:'       => "DirSlotN",

or is it something else?

Thanks a lot for your great help :)

> -Lance
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> >
> > I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> > help me with that?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > Yousef,
> > >
> > > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > > don't want to run.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > > you.
> > >
> > > -lance
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > Yousef,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > > comment out the command.
> > > > >
> > > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > >
> > > > > -Lance
> > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > > >   !
> > > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > > >   !
> > > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  -------------------
> > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  -------------------
> > |Yousef Raffah|
> >  --------------------------------
> >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> >  --------------------------------
>
>


-- 
 -------------------
|Yousef Raffah|
 --------------------------------
 http://yousef.raffah.com |
 --------------------------------

From tzago at timbrasil.com.br  Fri Aug 17 14:45:55 2007
From: tzago at timbrasil.com.br (Thiago Lacerda Zago)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:45:55 -0300
Subject: [rancid]  Delete( Remove) old revision cvs
Message-ID: <1EA6EF878B09DC44892FD9C2BE4D68421A263A@SNEDCPMS01.internal.timbrasil.com.br>

Hi,

 

I'm using cvsweb with rancid to control my revisions and they are growing and I wonder to know if there is a way to supress or even remove old revisions from the history tree.

 

My revisions graph tree is growing fast and the older diffs are meaningless in this occasion (startup operation).

 

I was checking in the cvs commands and found this solution (cvs admin -o allows you to "oblitereate" revisions. Read the man page. ) but have not tested yet because they don't recommend it so.

 

Is there another approach to tackle this problems?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Thiago Zago
* TIM  Rio - Gest?o de Rede/COR
* HYPERLINK "mailto:tzago at timbrasil.com.br"tzago at timbrasil.com.br 

 


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From dpz at ack.berkeley.edu  Fri Aug 17 21:26:29 2007
From: dpz at ack.berkeley.edu (David Paul Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:26:29 -0700
Subject: [rancid]  beware tcl-8.4.15_2,1
Message-ID: <D4A346F6-E98F-4BC8-AB72-47C679829ABC@ack.berkeley.edu>

In a fit of maintenance, I took one of my RANCID systems from:

	FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p3
	rancid-2.3.1_1 port
	expect-5.43.0_1 port
	tcl-8.4.13_1,1 port

to

	FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p6
	rancid-2.3.1_2 port
	expect-5.43.0_3 (-D WITHOUT_X11) port
	tcl-8.4.15_2,1 port

and immediately went from a perfectly happy RANCID installation to  
one that can't get through a group of 500 or so devices without  
getting hung randomly.  I tried taking out WITHOUT_X11, I tried all  
sorts of port deinstalls, reinstalls, you name it.  I tried the  
expect patch.  Nothing worked.  Finally I manually tweaked my ports  
tree to install the tcl-8.4.13_1,1 port instead, and my problems  
vanished (so far... 24 hours and counting).

Mind the gap....

	dp


From dpz at ack.berkeley.edu  Fri Aug 17 21:30:11 2007
From: dpz at ack.berkeley.edu (David Paul Zimmerman)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:30:11 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: beware tcl-8.4.15_2,1
In-Reply-To: <D4A346F6-E98F-4BC8-AB72-47C679829ABC@ack.berkeley.edu>
References: <D4A346F6-E98F-4BC8-AB72-47C679829ABC@ack.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <608F7C75-3717-45D5-BEA6-930B00B5D3CD@ack.berkeley.edu>

On Aug 17, 2007, at 2:26 PM, David Paul Zimmerman wrote:

> Finally I manually tweaked my ports tree to install the  
> tcl-8.4.13_1,1 port instead, and my problems
> vanished (so far... 24 hours and counting).

Sorry, I meant tcl-8.4.14_4,1.  I had to make _some_ progress.

	dp


From Shon.Hender at spservicing.com  Fri Aug 17 21:39:43 2007
From: Shon.Hender at spservicing.com (Shon Hender)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:39:43 -0600
Subject: [rancid]  rancid-run not working
Message-ID: <70262067E7786B458AF587D944A20959011F6B3B@SLEX1.fairbankscapital.com>

When I run 'rancid-run' it doesn't fail, but it also doesn't back-up any
config files.

'clogin' works with all the devices I've tested (about 7 different
devices)... but 'rancid-run' doesn't back up any config files.

Here is an example log after I run 'rancid-run':

[rancid at slnagios logs]$ less all.20070817.153007 
starting: Fri Aug 17 15:30:07 MDT 2007



ending: Fri Aug 17 15:30:07 MDT 2007

Please help.

Thank you,
-Shon


From kll at swip.net  Fri Aug 17 13:23:21 2007
From: kll at swip.net (Kristian Larsson)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:23:21 +0200
Subject: [rancid]  Automatic RedBack backup
Message-ID: <46C5A149.4040904@swip.net>

Hey all!

I'm trying to use RANCID for backing up the configuration of a few Red 
Back SE800 routers. For Cisco routers I already have a working mechanism 
in place which basically tail -f's a syslog file, when it find a 
"Configured from console by ..." message it executes rancid to log in to 
the router and pull out the configuration.
My problem with Red Back is that they just won't syslog when there has 
been a configuration change and thus I don't know when to execute the 
backup script.
Does anyone know of any secret knobs or other way for me to accomplish this?

Regards,
    Kristian.


From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Aug 17 23:52:48 2007
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:52:48 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Delete( Remove) old revision cvs
In-Reply-To: <1EA6EF878B09DC44892FD9C2BE4D68421A263A@SNEDCPMS01.internal.timbrasil.com.br>
References: <1EA6EF878B09DC44892FD9C2BE4D68421A263A@SNEDCPMS01.internal.timbrasil.com.br>
Message-ID: <20070817235248.GH3026@shrubbery.net>

Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 11:45:55AM -0300, Thiago Lacerda Zago:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using cvsweb with rancid to control my revisions and they are growing and I wonder to know if there is a way to supress or even remove old revisions from the history tree.
> 
> My revisions graph tree is growing fast and the older diffs are meaningless in this occasion (startup operation).
> 
> I was checking in the cvs commands and found this solution (cvs admin -o allows you to "oblitereate" revisions. Read the man page. ) but have not tested yet because they don't recommend it so.
> 
> Is there another approach to tackle this problems?

I've used -o to delete old revisions and have not had a problem with it,
but it is true that it could create issues if you wish to create diffs
against old revisions or re-create old revisions.

I wouldn't expect the growing number of reivisons to create a real issue,
but if you insist and wish to be 100% safe, start with new revisions or
write a script that re-creates a range of versions and commits them under
a new name.  eg:
	for 1 2 3 in ver; do
	  cvs -d ./CVS co -p $ver group/config/host > group/config/newhost
	  cvs commit -m 'updates' group/config/newhost
	done

again, I recommend that you just leave it alone or re-start with a clean
slate.

From heas at shrubbery.net  Fri Aug 17 23:56:55 2007
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:56:55 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: beware tcl-8.4.15_2,1
In-Reply-To: <608F7C75-3717-45D5-BEA6-930B00B5D3CD@ack.berkeley.edu>
References: <D4A346F6-E98F-4BC8-AB72-47C679829ABC@ack.berkeley.edu>
	<608F7C75-3717-45D5-BEA6-930B00B5D3CD@ack.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <20070817235655.GI3026@shrubbery.net>

Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 02:30:11PM -0700, David Paul Zimmerman:
> On Aug 17, 2007, at 2:26 PM, David Paul Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> > Finally I manually tweaked my ports tree to install the  
> > tcl-8.4.13_1,1 port instead, and my problems
> > vanished (so far... 24 hours and counting).
> 
> Sorry, I meant tcl-8.4.14_4,1.  I had to make _some_ progress.

My advice is that if the tcl and expect you are using works, don't change
it. [1]  You'll have more leisure time if you follow this rule. :)

[1] except for Linux and Solaris where you should apply the patch ("hack")
we've supplied.

From yraffah at gmail.com  Sat Aug 18 12:24:50 2007
From: yraffah at gmail.com (Yousef Raffah)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:24:50 +0300
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
In-Reply-To: <20070814114004.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.1f1d360db5.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070814114004.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.1f1d360db5.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <c663e0800708180524j4050fbfdt2b7b22037a14d820@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/14/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> Yousef,
>
> **NOTE**
> In this email when I am talking about the application as a WHOLE is say
> "RANCID". When I talk about files I will say something like "rancid"
> "clogin" "rancid-cvs" etc. Hopefully this makes it easier to understand
> what I am talking about.
>
> If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
> location for the bin files of RANCID.
>
> /usr/local/rancid/bin/
>
> the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
> The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
> script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
> You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
> of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
> specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.
>

Dear Lance and group members,

Once I comment/remove the line
'dir /all nvram:'       => "DirSlotN",
rancid can't connect to ANY of my devices, it sends me this E-mail

The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
more than 4 hours.
-rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  28495 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.10.6

I have attached the rancid file I have, can someone tell me what is
the correct line to comment?

Thanks in advance for your great help...



>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> >
> > I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> > help me with that?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > Yousef,
> > >
> > > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > > don't want to run.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > > you.
> > >
> > > -lance
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > Yousef,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > > comment out the command.
> > > > >
> > > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > >
> > > > > -Lance
> > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > > >   !
> > > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > > >   !
> > > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  -------------------
> > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  -------------------
> > |Yousef Raffah|
> >  --------------------------------
> >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> >  --------------------------------
>
>


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From rancid at gheek.net  Sun Aug 19 00:17:48 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:17:48 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
Message-ID: <20070818171748.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.279a410760.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Yousef,

I have attached a version of rancid that has all the dir statement
commented out. I will double check my own version when I get to work on
monday and see exactly what I have. I will let you know.

What error is in the logs? It should not effect any of the connection
scripts and if a command should fail the device will spit back and error
or wait for timeout then continue to the next command.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, August 18, 2007 5:24 am
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> On 8/14/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > Yousef,
> >
> > **NOTE**
> > In this email when I am talking about the application as a WHOLE is say
> > "RANCID". When I talk about files I will say something like "rancid"
> > "clogin" "rancid-cvs" etc. Hopefully this makes it easier to understand
> > what I am talking about.
> >
> > If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
> > location for the bin files of RANCID.
> >
> > /usr/local/rancid/bin/
> >
> > the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
> > The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
> > script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
> > You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
> > of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
> > specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.
> >
> 
> Dear Lance and group members,
> 
> Once I comment/remove the line
> 'dir /all nvram:'       => "DirSlotN",
> rancid can't connect to ANY of my devices, it sends me this E-mail
> 
> The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> more than 4 hours.
> -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  28495 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.10.6
> 
> I have attached the rancid file I have, can someone tell me what is
> the correct line to comment?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your great help...
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> > >
> > > I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> > > help me with that?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > Yousef,
> > > >
> > > > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > > > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > > > don't want to run.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > > > you.
> > > >
> > > > -lance
> > > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > > > comment out the command.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Lance
> > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  -------------------
> > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > >  --------------------------------
> > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > >  --------------------------------
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
>  -------------------
> |Yousef Raffah|
>  --------------------------------
>  http://yousef.raffah.com |
>  --------------------------------
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From yraffah at gmail.com  Sun Aug 19 08:54:45 2007
From: yraffah at gmail.com (Yousef Raffah)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:54:45 +0300
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
In-Reply-To: <20070818171748.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.279a410760.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070818171748.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.279a410760.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <c663e0800708190154j1be3b6c0s93d6dbd62fe803b0@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/19/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> Yousef,
>
> I have attached a version of rancid that has all the dir statement
> commented out. I will double check my own version when I get to work on
> monday and see exactly what I have. I will let you know.
>
Thanks a lot for your help.

> What error is in the logs? It should not effect any of the connection
> scripts and if a command should fail the device will spit back and error
> or wait for timeout then continue to the next command.
>
It gives this:
The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
more than 4 hours.
-rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.x
-rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.y
-rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.z

It seems like it is affecting the connection scripts somehow!

> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, August 18, 2007 5:24 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > On 8/14/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > Yousef,
> > >
> > > **NOTE**
> > > In this email when I am talking about the application as a WHOLE is say
> > > "RANCID". When I talk about files I will say something like "rancid"
> > > "clogin" "rancid-cvs" etc. Hopefully this makes it easier to understand
> > > what I am talking about.
> > >
> > > If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
> > > location for the bin files of RANCID.
> > >
> > > /usr/local/rancid/bin/
> > >
> > > the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
> > > The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
> > > script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
> > > You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
> > > of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
> > > specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.
> > >
> >
> > Dear Lance and group members,
> >
> > Once I comment/remove the line
> > 'dir /all nvram:'       => "DirSlotN",
> > rancid can't connect to ANY of my devices, it sends me this E-mail
> >
> > The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> > more than 4 hours.
> > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  28495 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.10.6
> >
> > I have attached the rancid file I have, can someone tell me what is
> > the correct line to comment?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your great help...
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> > > >
> > > > I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> > > > help me with that?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > Yousef,
> > > > >
> > > > > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > > > > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > > > > don't want to run.
> > > > >
> > > > > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > > > > you.
> > > > >
> > > > > -lance
> > > > >
> > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > > > > comment out the command.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Lance
> > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > > > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  -------------------
> > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  -------------------
> > |Yousef Raffah|
> >  --------------------------------
> >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> >  --------------------------------
>
>


-- 
 -------------------
|Yousef Raffah|
 --------------------------------
 http://yousef.raffah.com |
 --------------------------------

From rancid at gheek.net  Sun Aug 19 16:48:53 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:48:53 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
Message-ID: <20070819094853.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.6906b36905.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Yousef,

You need to check your log file. That would be something similar to
"<rancid path>/var/log/<group>-date"
/usr/local/rancid/var/log/network-20070919

Look in that file and see exactly what it says.

None the less I will check my script at work on monday and let you know.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, August 19, 2007 1:54 am
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>
> On 8/19/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > Yousef,
> >
> > I have attached a version of rancid that has all the dir statement
> > commented out. I will double check my own version when I get to work on
> > monday and see exactly what I have. I will let you know.
> >
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> > What error is in the logs? It should not effect any of the connection
> > scripts and if a command should fail the device will spit back and error
> > or wait for timeout then continue to the next command.
> >
> It gives this:
> The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> more than 4 hours.
> -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.x
> -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.y
> -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.z
>
> It seems like it is affecting the connection scripts somehow!
>
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sat, August 18, 2007 5:24 am
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > On 8/14/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > Yousef,
> > > >
> > > > **NOTE**
> > > > In this email when I am talking about the application as a WHOLE is say
> > > > "RANCID". When I talk about files I will say something like "rancid"
> > > > "clogin" "rancid-cvs" etc. Hopefully this makes it easier to understand
> > > > what I am talking about.
> > > >
> > > > If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
> > > > location for the bin files of RANCID.
> > > >
> > > > /usr/local/rancid/bin/
> > > >
> > > > the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
> > > > The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
> > > > script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
> > > > You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
> > > > of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
> > > > specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dear Lance and group members,
> > >
> > > Once I comment/remove the line
> > > 'dir /all nvram:'       => "DirSlotN",
> > > rancid can't connect to ANY of my devices, it sends me this E-mail
> > >
> > > The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> > > more than 4 hours.
> > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  28495 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.10.6
> > >
> > > I have attached the rancid file I have, can someone tell me what is
> > > the correct line to comment?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your great help...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> > > > > help me with that?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > > > > > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > > > > > don't want to run.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > > > > > you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -lance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > > > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > > > > > comment out the command.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Lance
> > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello..
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > > > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > > > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > > > > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >  -------------------
> > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > >  --------------------------------
> > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > >  --------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>  -------------------
> |Yousef Raffah|
>  --------------------------------
>  http://yousef.raffah.com |
>  --------------------------------


From yraffah at gmail.com  Mon Aug 20 08:03:20 2007
From: yraffah at gmail.com (Yousef Raffah)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:03:20 +0300
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
In-Reply-To: <20070819094853.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.6906b36905.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
References: <20070819094853.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.6906b36905.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
Message-ID: <c663e0800708200103t7676cb2q3595152f43221420@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/19/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> Yousef,
>
> You need to check your log file. That would be something similar to
> "<rancid path>/var/log/<group>-date"
> /usr/local/rancid/var/log/network-20070919
>
> Look in that file and see exactly what it says.
>
I found something related in one of my groups log file (/

Trying to get all of the configs.
192.168.2.6: found unexpected command - "dir /all nvram:"
write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
    while executing
"send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
    invoked from within
"expect -nobrace -re+ { exp_continue } -re {^[^
^M *]*SAVOLAPIX([^#>\r\n]+)?[#>](\([^)\r\n]+\))?} { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                } -re {^[..."
    invoked from within
"expect {
                -re "\b+"                       { exp_continue }
                -re "^\[^\n\r *]*$reprompt"     { send_user --
"$expect_out(buffer)"
                                                }
                -re "^\[^\n\r]*$reprompt."      { send..."
    invoked from within
"if [ string match "*\;*" "$command" ] {
        set commands [split $command \;]
        set num_commands [llength $commands]
        # the pager can not be turned off on ..."
    (procedure "run_commands" line 34)
    invoked from within
"run_commands $prompt $command"
    ("foreach" body line 144)
    invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
    set router [string tolower $router]
    send_user "$router\n"

    # Figure out prompt.
    # Since autoena..."
    (file "/usr/local/libexec/rancid//clogin" line 616)
192.168.2.6: missed cmd(s): dir /all slavedisk2:,dir /all
sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all disk1:,dir /all sec-nvram:,dir /all
disk2:,dir /all sec-bootflash:,s
how spe version,dir /all slaveslot2:,dir /all disk0:,dir /all
slaveslot0:,dir /all sec-slot1:,dir /all harddiska:,dir /all
slavenvram:,dir /all sec-disk2:,d
ir /all slavesup-bootflash:,dir /all sec-disk0:,dir /all
harddiskb:,dir /all slavedisk1:,show module,show controllers,show
diagbus,dir /all slavedisk0:,dir
/all bootflash:,dir /all sec-slot0:,dir /all sec-disk1:,write
term,show vtp status,dir /all sup-bootflash:,dir /all slot2:,dir /all
harddisk:,dir /all slot0
:,dir /all sup-microcode:,show vlan,dir /all slavebootflash:,show
controllers cbus,dir /all slaveslot1:,show running-config,show
c7200,dir /all slot1:
192.168.2.6: End of run not found
!
=====================================
Getting missed routers: round 1.
192.168.2.6: found unexpected command - "dir /all nvram:"
write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
    while executing
"send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
    invoked from within
.
.
.
.
and so much more.


> None the less I will check my script at work on monday and let you know.
>
> -Lance
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, August 19, 2007 1:54 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > On 8/19/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > Yousef,
> > >
> > > I have attached a version of rancid that has all the dir statement
> > > commented out. I will double check my own version when I get to work on
> > > monday and see exactly what I have. I will let you know.
> > >
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> >
> > > What error is in the logs? It should not effect any of the connection
> > > scripts and if a command should fail the device will spit back and error
> > > or wait for timeout then continue to the next command.
> > >
> > It gives this:
> > The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> > more than 4 hours.
> > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.x
> > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.y
> > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.z
> >
> > It seems like it is affecting the connection scripts somehow!
> >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Sat, August 18, 2007 5:24 am
> > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > On 8/14/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > Yousef,
> > > > >
> > > > > **NOTE**
> > > > > In this email when I am talking about the application as a WHOLE is say
> > > > > "RANCID". When I talk about files I will say something like "rancid"
> > > > > "clogin" "rancid-cvs" etc. Hopefully this makes it easier to understand
> > > > > what I am talking about.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
> > > > > location for the bin files of RANCID.
> > > > >
> > > > > /usr/local/rancid/bin/
> > > > >
> > > > > the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
> > > > > The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
> > > > > script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
> > > > > You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
> > > > > of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
> > > > > specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Lance and group members,
> > > >
> > > > Once I comment/remove the line
> > > > 'dir /all nvram:'       => "DirSlotN",
> > > > rancid can't connect to ANY of my devices, it sends me this E-mail
> > > >
> > > > The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> > > > more than 4 hours.
> > > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  28495 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.10.6
> > > >
> > > > I have attached the rancid file I have, can someone tell me what is
> > > > the correct line to comment?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for your great help...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> > > > > > help me with that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > > > > > > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > > > > > > don't want to run.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > > > > > > you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -lance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > > > > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > > > > > > comment out the command.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Lance
> > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > > > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello..
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > > > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > > > > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > > > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > > > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > > > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > > > > > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  -------------------
> > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  -------------------
> > |Yousef Raffah|
> >  --------------------------------
> >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> >  --------------------------------
>
>


-- 
 -------------------
|Yousef Raffah|
 --------------------------------
 http://yousef.raffah.com |
 --------------------------------

From rancid at gheek.net  Mon Aug 20 16:25:12 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:25:12 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
Message-ID: <20070820092512.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.d68c092863.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

Yousef,

I know why it is bitching. It is cause you are running the stable while
I run the alpha. Meaning in the alpha there not a separate Hash, it is
created from the array. So Try the file I have attached. I think this
should do the trick for you.

-Lance

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, August 20, 2007 1:03 am
> To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> On 8/19/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > Yousef,
> >
> > You need to check your log file. That would be something similar to
> > "<rancid path>/var/log/<group>-date"
> > /usr/local/rancid/var/log/network-20070919
> >
> > Look in that file and see exactly what it says.
> >
> I found something related in one of my groups log file (/
> 
> Trying to get all of the configs.
> 192.168.2.6: found unexpected command - "dir /all nvram:"
> write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
>     while executing
> "send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
>     invoked from within
> "expect -nobrace -re+ { exp_continue } -re {^[^
> ^M *]*SAVOLAPIX([^#>\r\n]+)?[#>](\([^)\r\n]+\))?} { send_user --
> "$expect_out(buffer)"
>                                                 } -re {^[..."
>     invoked from within
> "expect {
>                 -re "\b+"                       { exp_continue }
>                 -re "^\[^\n\r *]*$reprompt"     { send_user --
> "$expect_out(buffer)"
>                                                 }
>                 -re "^\[^\n\r]*$reprompt."      { send..."
>     invoked from within
> "if [ string match "*\;*" "$command" ] {
>         set commands [split $command \;]
>         set num_commands [llength $commands]
>         # the pager can not be turned off on ..."
>     (procedure "run_commands" line 34)
>     invoked from within
> "run_commands $prompt $command"
>     ("foreach" body line 144)
>     invoked from within
> "foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
>     set router [string tolower $router]
>     send_user "$router\n"
> 
>     # Figure out prompt.
>     # Since autoena..."
>     (file "/usr/local/libexec/rancid//clogin" line 616)
> 192.168.2.6: missed cmd(s): dir /all slavedisk2:,dir /all
> sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all disk1:,dir /all sec-nvram:,dir /all
> disk2:,dir /all sec-bootflash:,s
> how spe version,dir /all slaveslot2:,dir /all disk0:,dir /all
> slaveslot0:,dir /all sec-slot1:,dir /all harddiska:,dir /all
> slavenvram:,dir /all sec-disk2:,d
> ir /all slavesup-bootflash:,dir /all sec-disk0:,dir /all
> harddiskb:,dir /all slavedisk1:,show module,show controllers,show
> diagbus,dir /all slavedisk0:,dir
> /all bootflash:,dir /all sec-slot0:,dir /all sec-disk1:,write
> term,show vtp status,dir /all sup-bootflash:,dir /all slot2:,dir /all
> harddisk:,dir /all slot0
> :,dir /all sup-microcode:,show vlan,dir /all slavebootflash:,show
> controllers cbus,dir /all slaveslot1:,show running-config,show
> c7200,dir /all slot1:
> 192.168.2.6: End of run not found
> !
> =====================================
> Getting missed routers: round 1.
> 192.168.2.6: found unexpected command - "dir /all nvram:"
> write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
>     while executing
> "send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
>     invoked from within
> .
> .
> .
> .
> and so much more.
> 
> 
> > None the less I will check my script at work on monday and let you know.
> >
> > -Lance
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sun, August 19, 2007 1:54 am
> > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > >
> > > On 8/19/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > Yousef,
> > > >
> > > > I have attached a version of rancid that has all the dir statement
> > > > commented out. I will double check my own version when I get to work on
> > > > monday and see exactly what I have. I will let you know.
> > > >
> > > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > >
> > > > What error is in the logs? It should not effect any of the connection
> > > > scripts and if a command should fail the device will spit back and error
> > > > or wait for timeout then continue to the next command.
> > > >
> > > It gives this:
> > > The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> > > more than 4 hours.
> > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.x
> > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.y
> > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.z
> > >
> > > It seems like it is affecting the connection scripts somehow!
> > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > Date: Sat, August 18, 2007 5:24 am
> > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/14/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > **NOTE**
> > > > > > In this email when I am talking about the application as a WHOLE is say
> > > > > > "RANCID". When I talk about files I will say something like "rancid"
> > > > > > "clogin" "rancid-cvs" etc. Hopefully this makes it easier to understand
> > > > > > what I am talking about.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
> > > > > > location for the bin files of RANCID.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /usr/local/rancid/bin/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
> > > > > > The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
> > > > > > script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
> > > > > > You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
> > > > > > of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
> > > > > > specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Lance and group members,
> > > > >
> > > > > Once I comment/remove the line
> > > > > 'dir /all nvram:'       => "DirSlotN",
> > > > > rancid can't connect to ANY of my devices, it sends me this E-mail
> > > > >
> > > > > The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> > > > > more than 4 hours.
> > > > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  28495 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.10.6
> > > > >
> > > > > I have attached the rancid file I have, can someone tell me what is
> > > > > the correct line to comment?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance for your great help...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> > > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> > > > > > > help me with that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > > > > > > > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > > > > > > > don't want to run.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > > > > > > > you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -lance
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > > > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > > > > > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > > > > > > > comment out the command.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Lance
> > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > > > > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello..
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > > > > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > > > > > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > > > > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > > > > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
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> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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>  -------------------
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From yraffah at gmail.com  Wed Aug 22 07:20:47 2007
From: yraffah at gmail.com (Yousef Raffah)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:20:47 +0300
Subject: [rancid] Re: Recurring Diffs
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Message-ID: <c663e0800708220020w3f22284csdccd61735941151f@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you so much Lance, this solved it :)

On 8/20/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> Yousef,
>
> I know why it is bitching. It is cause you are running the stable while
> I run the alpha. Meaning in the alpha there not a separate Hash, it is
> created from the array. So Try the file I have attached. I think this
> should do the trick for you.
>
> -Lance
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, August 20, 2007 1:03 am
> > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> >
> > On 8/19/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > Yousef,
> > >
> > > You need to check your log file. That would be something similar to
> > > "<rancid path>/var/log/<group>-date"
> > > /usr/local/rancid/var/log/network-20070919
> > >
> > > Look in that file and see exactly what it says.
> > >
> > I found something related in one of my groups log file (/
> >
> > Trying to get all of the configs.
> > 192.168.2.6: found unexpected command - "dir /all nvram:"
> > write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
> >     while executing
> > "send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
> >     invoked from within
> > "expect -nobrace -re+ { exp_continue } -re {^[^
> > ^M *]*SAVOLAPIX([^#>\r\n]+)?[#>](\([^)\r\n]+\))?} { send_user --
> > "$expect_out(buffer)"
> >                                                 } -re {^[..."
> >     invoked from within
> > "expect {
> >                 -re "\b+"                       { exp_continue }
> >                 -re "^\[^\n\r *]*$reprompt"     { send_user --
> > "$expect_out(buffer)"
> >                                                 }
> >                 -re "^\[^\n\r]*$reprompt."      { send..."
> >     invoked from within
> > "if [ string match "*\;*" "$command" ] {
> >         set commands [split $command \;]
> >         set num_commands [llength $commands]
> >         # the pager can not be turned off on ..."
> >     (procedure "run_commands" line 34)
> >     invoked from within
> > "run_commands $prompt $command"
> >     ("foreach" body line 144)
> >     invoked from within
> > "foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
> >     set router [string tolower $router]
> >     send_user "$router\n"
> >
> >     # Figure out prompt.
> >     # Since autoena..."
> >     (file "/usr/local/libexec/rancid//clogin" line 616)
> > 192.168.2.6: missed cmd(s): dir /all slavedisk2:,dir /all
> > sec-slot2:,show diag,dir /all disk1:,dir /all sec-nvram:,dir /all
> > disk2:,dir /all sec-bootflash:,s
> > how spe version,dir /all slaveslot2:,dir /all disk0:,dir /all
> > slaveslot0:,dir /all sec-slot1:,dir /all harddiska:,dir /all
> > slavenvram:,dir /all sec-disk2:,d
> > ir /all slavesup-bootflash:,dir /all sec-disk0:,dir /all
> > harddiskb:,dir /all slavedisk1:,show module,show controllers,show
> > diagbus,dir /all slavedisk0:,dir
> > /all bootflash:,dir /all sec-slot0:,dir /all sec-disk1:,write
> > term,show vtp status,dir /all sup-bootflash:,dir /all slot2:,dir /all
> > harddisk:,dir /all slot0
> > :,dir /all sup-microcode:,show vlan,dir /all slavebootflash:,show
> > controllers cbus,dir /all slaveslot1:,show running-config,show
> > c7200,dir /all slot1:
> > 192.168.2.6: End of run not found
> > !
> > =====================================
> > Getting missed routers: round 1.
> > 192.168.2.6: found unexpected command - "dir /all nvram:"
> > write(spawn_id=1): broken pipe
> >     while executing
> > "send_user -- "$expect_out(buffer)""
> >     invoked from within
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > and so much more.
> >
> >
> > > None the less I will check my script at work on monday and let you know.
> > >
> > > -Lance
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Sun, August 19, 2007 1:54 am
> > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > >
> > > > On 8/19/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > Yousef,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have attached a version of rancid that has all the dir statement
> > > > > commented out. I will double check my own version when I get to work on
> > > > > monday and see exactly what I have. I will let you know.
> > > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot for your help.
> > > >
> > > > > What error is in the logs? It should not effect any of the connection
> > > > > scripts and if a command should fail the device will spit back and error
> > > > > or wait for timeout then continue to the next command.
> > > > >
> > > > It gives this:
> > > > The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> > > > more than 4 hours.
> > > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.x
> > > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.y
> > > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  16919 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.2.z
> > > >
> > > > It seems like it is affecting the connection scripts somehow!
> > > >
> > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > Date: Sat, August 18, 2007 5:24 am
> > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/14/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > **NOTE**
> > > > > > > In this email when I am talking about the application as a WHOLE is say
> > > > > > > "RANCID". When I talk about files I will say something like "rancid"
> > > > > > > "clogin" "rancid-cvs" etc. Hopefully this makes it easier to understand
> > > > > > > what I am talking about.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you have the default you will have the follow as your install
> > > > > > > location for the bin files of RANCID.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /usr/local/rancid/bin/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the file "rancid" in this directory is where you would make the changes.
> > > > > > > The "rancid" file is a perl script that makes a system call to an expect
> > > > > > > script "clogin". Open up the "rancid" file and do a search for "Main".
> > > > > > > You will find below that there is a list of commands. If you are unsure
> > > > > > > of what I am talking about send me your "rancid" file. This is a
> > > > > > > specific script file that is one of many scripts that come with RANCID.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Lance and group members,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once I comment/remove the line
> > > > > > 'dir /all nvram:'       => "DirSlotN",
> > > > > > rancid can't connect to ANY of my devices, it sends me this E-mail
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The following routers have not been successfully contacted for
> > > > > > more than 4 hours.
> > > > > > -rw-r-----  1 rancid  netteam  28495 Aug 18 09:00 192.168.10.6
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have attached the rancid file I have, can someone tell me what is
> > > > > > the correct line to comment?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for your great help...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > Date: Tue, August 14, 2007 6:02 am
> > > > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm sorry Lance, do you mean /usr/local/bin/rancid-cvs ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I couldn't figure out what to comment in that file, can you please
> > > > > > > > help me with that?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > edit your bin/rancid file. You will want to search for Main. There
> > > > > > > > > should only be one thing that matches that. Comment out the command you
> > > > > > > > > don't want to run.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If that doesn't help you send me your rancid file I will comment it for
> > > > > > > > > you.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -lance
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [rancid] Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, August 12, 2007 3:55 pm
> > > > > > > > > > To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
> > > > > > > > > > Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 8/12/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Yousef,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Just my guess but probably due to some changes that the system is
> > > > > > > > > > > tracking. I personally ignore the collection of this output. I just
> > > > > > > > > > > comment out the command.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry but which command to commend and where to comment it?
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -Lance
> > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [rancid]  Recurring Diffs
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Yousef Raffah" <yraffah at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, August 11, 2007 11:44 pm
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello..
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm a new RANCID user who got really impressed by the project. Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > a lot for creating such great tools.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > One little thing is bugging me though, one of my routers (6500) is
> > > > > > > > > > > > giving me recurring diffs almost every hour. This is what it shows:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > @@ -28,10 +28,10 @@
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !BootFlash: Configuration register is 0x2102
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: 65536K bytes of Flash internal SIMM (Sector size 512K).
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: Directory of flash:/
> > > > > > > > > > > > - !Flash:     2  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 22:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash:     3  -rwx        5804   Aug 08 2007 13:07:31  config.text
> > > > > > > > > > > > + !Flash:     4  -rwx          36   Aug 11 2007 23:26:27  nv_hdr
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: 1792000 bytes total (1784320 bytes free)
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
> > > > > > > > > > > >   !Flash: nvram:   513  -rw-        5804              <no date>  startup-config
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why does nv_hdr change every hour? Any idea?
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using rancind 2.3.1_2 on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > Rancid-discuss mailing list
> > > > > > > > > > > > Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >  -------------------
> > > > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > > > >  --------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >  -------------------
> > > > |Yousef Raffah|
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > > >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> > > >  --------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >  -------------------
> > |Yousef Raffah|
> >  --------------------------------
> >  http://yousef.raffah.com |
> >  --------------------------------
>
>


-- 
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|Yousef Raffah|
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From G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk  Thu Aug 23 08:23:32 2007
From: G.Ross at ccw.gov.uk (Gordon Ross)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:23:32 +0100
Subject: [rancid]  Sending Summary E-Mails
Message-ID: <46CD5225.AC0B.0006.3@ccw.gov.uk>

Rancid, as I see at the moment, sends an e-mail with the full text of
changes in it. Is it possible to configure rancid to also send a summary
e-mail saying "Device X configuration has changed", without the actual
diffs in it (and still send the e-mails with the fill diffs to elsewhere
?)

GTG
-- 

? 
Gordon Ross,
Network Manager/Rheolwr Rhydwaith
Countryside Council for Wales/Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru


From tex at off.org  Thu Aug 23 08:22:02 2007
From: tex at off.org (Austin Schutz)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:22:02 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: Sending Summary E-Mails
In-Reply-To: <46CD5225.AC0B.0006.3@ccw.gov.uk>
References: <46CD5225.AC0B.0006.3@ccw.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <20070823082202.GD4405@gblx.net>

On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:23:32AM +0100, Gordon Ross wrote:
> Rancid, as I see at the moment, sends an e-mail with the full text of
> changes in it. Is it possible to configure rancid to also send a summary
> e-mail saying "Device X configuration has changed", without the actual
> diffs in it (and still send the e-mails with the fill diffs to elsewhere
> ?)
> 

	You could run cvs stat right before or after the email is sent in
control_rancid. You would have to do a little extra work to format it the way
you want.

	Rancid won't do anything like that out of the box, but it would not
be a monstrous task to do if you have any experience with shell or perl
programming.

	Austin


From heas at shrubbery.net  Thu Aug 23 15:49:10 2007
From: heas at shrubbery.net (john heasley)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:49:10 +0000
Subject: [rancid] Re: Sending Summary E-Mails
In-Reply-To: <20070823082202.GD4405@gblx.net>
References: <46CD5225.AC0B.0006.3@ccw.gov.uk> <20070823082202.GD4405@gblx.net>
Message-ID: <20070823154910.GA14783@shrubbery.net>

Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 01:22:02AM -0700, Austin Schutz:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 09:23:32AM +0100, Gordon Ross wrote:
> > Rancid, as I see at the moment, sends an e-mail with the full text of
> > changes in it. Is it possible to configure rancid to also send a summary
> > e-mail saying "Device X configuration has changed", without the actual
> > diffs in it (and still send the e-mails with the fill diffs to elsewhere
> > ?)
> > 
> 
> 	You could run cvs stat right before or after the email is sent in
> control_rancid. You would have to do a little extra work to format it the way
> you want.
> 
> 	Rancid won't do anything like that out of the box, but it would not
> be a monstrous task to do if you have any experience with shell or perl
> programming.

also see share/rtrfilter

From ecables at gmail.com  Thu Aug 23 17:55:14 2007
From: ecables at gmail.com (Eric Cables)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:55:14 -0700
Subject: [rancid]  Archiving Cisco MDS switches..
Message-ID: <d5c7ccac0708231055p12439198y49f2c2b226f484e8@mail.gmail.com>

I was wondering if anyone has gotten RANCID to work with the Cisco line of
MDS switches.

-- 
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From smunzani at comcast.net  Wed Aug 29 18:03:49 2007
From: smunzani at comcast.net (Sam Munzani)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:03:49 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
In-Reply-To: <45EB285310B55542A513F93230F0A5330115DB4F@EXCHANGE0.orm.omniture.com>
References: <20070716173200.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.b34fb90ffd.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
	<469C200F.4020909@munzani.com>
	<45EB285310B55542A513F93230F0A5330115DB4F@EXCHANGE0.orm.omniture.com>
Message-ID: <46D5B505.1050603@comcast.net>

Team,

I am sorry to reopen this old thread but the question I have relates to 
this old thread.
Attached 2 rancid login files work fine on newer F5 boxes. However on 
old boxes, it prompts for "term type" at the ssh login. I need to insert 
logic in the script to answer to this "term type" question. What's best 
way to handle it?

Pass it as an argument like
f5login -t vt100 device-name

and then catch the variable and add necessary logic for the expect?

The interaction I am seeing is as below.
<< Some junk MOTB and Banner trimmed here >>
Terminal type? [xterm]

I just need to pass "vt100" at this prompt.

Thanks,
Sam
> I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks or I would have 
> posted this sooner and possibly saved some of you a bit of effort. 
>  
> It sounds like Lance and Sam have put together a working f5rancid 
> with basic functionality which Sam posted last night.  I have attached 
> my f5rancid which I have been running for a few months.  Installation 
> instructions are included as comments in the file.  This version uses 
> clogin so that a separate f5login script is not required.
>  
> This version formats and processes the output to make it more 
> usable.  As far as what is captured, I based this on the F5 equivalent 
> of a tech out.  It grabs a copy of all the configuration files, 
> hardware configuration and software version as well as the timestamps 
> and file sizes for SSL certs hosted on the device.  This facilitates 
> rebuilding from scratch as quickly as possible if this is ever needed.  
>  
> I was able to resolve the bug I mentioned yesterday by increasing the 
> clogin timeout.  On a small number of devices it failed to process the 
> last few commands when running from cron but always worked properly 
> from the command line on all devices [making it difficult to track 
> down].   I mention this because it may be an appropriate fix for other 
> intermittent problems sometimes discussed on this list.
>  
> Any feedback is appreciated.  I hope to get f5 support added to future 
> releases of rancid. 
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Mike
>  
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2007 7:49 PM
> *To:* Lance
> *Cc:* Mike Ashcraft; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> *Subject:* Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>
> Lance,
>
> Thanks a lot for all your help. Pretty much you did all the work while 
> I watched what you are doing :-)..
>
> Attached are cleaned up files. In f5rancid file, I have left some 
> basic functions(non platform specific) just in case we expand this 
> script to do a lot more than just "b list" output. In rancid-fe, we 
> defined a new device type "f5", f5login was copied from clogin and 
> remarked some "term length" statements we don't need on F5.
>
> All 3 files are attached and working great. Please be aware, we are 
> not parsing anything at all. All its doing is basic function of 
> running "b list" command and capturing its output. As I expand more on 
> this, I will be sure to share with the audience here.
>
> Again, thanks a lot for all your help today.
>
> Regards,
> Sam
>> I have helped Sam get a working f5rancid which requires a f5login (only
>> because it doesn't recognize the prompt with a space and exit, unless
>> you enter a return before the exit). He is cleaning up all the unused
>> functions and will post it.
>>
>> Once John H. sends out his script I will look at it and see how it
>> differs from the one I did with Sam. I will even help Sam get it working
>> for his setup. We will let you know when it is all working.
>>
>> -lance
>>
>>   
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>> From: "Mike Ashcraft" <mashcraft at omniture.com>
>>> Date: Mon, July 16, 2007 11:48 am
>>> To: <sam at munzani.com>
>>> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>
>>> Sam,
>>>  
>>> I have a working f5rancid that I have been using for a number of months
>>> now.   I have one minor bug related to tracking installed SSL certs
>>> which you probably don't care about.  Other than that, it works great.
>>>  
>>> I did encounter and solve all the problems you have been discussing on
>>> the list.
>>>  
>>> Let me know if you are interested in trying what I have.  I have tested
>>> it with Big-IP 9.1.2.  
>>>  
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
>>> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Sam Munzani
>>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:58 AM
>>> To: smunzani at comcast.net
>>> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, this is what I see in the log when I do rancid-run now. That means
>>> the f5rancid file(hacked copy of rancid) is still missing something.
>>>
>>> more nfl.20070716.114842
>>> starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trying to get all of the configs.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 1.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 2.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 3.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 4.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>
>>> cvs diff: Diffing .
>>> cvs diff: Diffing configs
>>> nfl.20070716.114842 71%starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trying to get all of the configs.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 1.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 2.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 3.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 4.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>
>>> cvs diff: Diffing .
>>> cvs diff: Diffing configs
>>> cvs diff: cannot find configs/test-f5-01
>>> cvs commit: Examining .
>>> cvs commit: Examining configs
>>> cvs commit: Up-to-date check failed for `configs/test-f5-01'
>>> cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first!
>>> ls: test-f5-01: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> ending: Mon Jul 16 11:49:41 CDT 2007
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> 	David,
>>> 	
>>> 	Thanks a lot for the tip. This worked well. Now f5login goes
>>> much more 
>>> 	cleaner and the "root" doesn't set sent again. I still have
>>> other issues 
>>> 	where rancid-run is backing up config properly but I am still 
>>> 	troubleshooting it.
>>> 	
>>> 	Now here is a question. What does "bldshgalsjd" mean and how
>>> does it do 
>>> 	this miracle?
>>> 	
>>> 	Thanks,
>>> 	Sam
>>> 	  
>>>
>>> 		Thanks for this tip, turns out that this is also the
>>> reason the
>>> 		username gets entered at a prompt on the cisco IPS
>>> devices. Since it's
>>> 		using SSH and therefore doesn't need a username prompt,
>>> solution was
>>> 		to simply add in .cloginrc:
>>> 		
>>> 		add userprompt ids* bldshgalsjd  (<- something that
>>> won't get sent 
>>> 		during login)
>>> 		
>>> 		Regards,
>>> 		
>>> 		David
>>> 		
>>> 		On 14/07/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
>>> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net>  wrote:
>>> 		    
>>>
>>> 			Sam,
>>> 			
>>> 			Have you tried using telnet to login, if the f5
>>> has it enabled.
>>> 			You may also want to set auto enable in your
>>> .cloginrc for this device
>>> 			as it looks to clogin as you are already in a
>>> cisco equivalent equal to
>>> 			enable since your prompt has a # sign in it.
>>> 			
>>> 			Looking at your next email along with this one
>>> it looks like you are
>>> 			already in a cisco equivalent of enable after
>>> you login. f5login seems
>>> 			to be sending your username of root as a command
>>> after you get connected
>>> 			because it sees this line "Last login: Fri Jul
>>> 13 14:38:03 2007 from
>>> 			172.24.100.12" and it matches on the word
>>> "Login". See below.
>>> 			
>>> 			"(Username|Login|login|user name):"? yes
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: set expect_out(0,string) "login:"
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: set expect_out(1,string) "login"
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: set expect_out(buffer) " \r\nLast
>>> login:"
>>> 			
>>> 			send: sending "root\r" to { exp4 }
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: continuing expect
>>> 			
>>> 			You are just using a Cisco login/parsing script
>>> so it expects prompts
>>> 			from a Cisco device and in this case you have a
>>> *nix SSH banner that
>>> 			gets interrupted. I know you can use RANCID to
>>> backup *nix systems. So
>>> 			it knows how to understand connecting to a *nix
>>> system. You might want
>>> 			to try this email thread which asks about
>>> backing up Linux conifgs.
>>> 	
>>> "http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
>>> ml"
>>> <http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
>>> ml>  
>>> 			
>>> 			Or you could modify the existing f5login like
>>> so.
>>> 			
>>> 			I think you have to use the carrot before the ()
>>> to work. I haven't
>>> 			checked this as I am at home and not on a UNIX
>>> system right now. Sorry
>>> 			to lazy to check it out right now. You might
>>> want to uncomment the line
>>> 			below 3. and comment out the line below 2. and
>>> see if that works. This
>>> 			is the only point in the code that I see it look
>>> for login in any line.
>>> 			If that doesn't work send me back the debug and
>>> I will see what I can
>>> 			do. I am sure some people that use expect more
>>> often then I can probably
>>> 			quickly tell you what to use as syntax there.
>>> 			
>>> 			# Figure out prompts
>>> 			   set u_prompt [find userprompt $router
>>> 			if { "$u_prompt" == "" } {
>>> 			       #1. ORIGINAL
>>> 			       #set u_prompt
>>> "^(Username|Login|login|user name):"
>>> 			       #2. Modified to read for a line beginning
>>> with 
>>> 			Username,Login,login, or
>>> 			user name.
>>> 			       set u_prompt "^(Username|Login|login|user
>>> name):"
>>> 			       #3. Modified to read for a line beginning
>>> with Login or login. 
>>> 			but I
>>> 			may be wrong
>>> 			       #set u_prompt
>>> "^(Username|^Login|^login|user name):"
>>> 			   } else {
>>> 			       set u_prompt [join [lindex $u_prompt 0]
>>> ""]
>>> 			
>>> 			
>>> 			Let me know if this works for you.
>>> 			
>>> 			-Lance
>>> 			
>>> 			      
>>>
>>> 				-------- Original Message --------
>>> 				Subject: Re: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
>>> support
>>> 				From: Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net>
>>> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
>>> 				Date: Fri, July 13, 2007 2:30 pm
>>> 				To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
>>> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net> 
>>> 				Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> 				
>>> 				Lance,
>>> 				
>>> 				F5 login works fine with a minor error.
>>> 				
>>> 				$ f5login test-f5-01
>>> 				test-f5-01
>>> 				spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l root test-f5-01
>>> 				Password:
>>> 				Last login: Fri Jul 13 14:26:28 2007
>>> from 172.24.100.12
>>> 				root
>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config # root
>>> 				-bash: root: command not found
>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>> 				
>>> 				I don't know how to debug otherwise I
>>> would turn on debug too. If you
>>> 				can provide some hints on debug, I would
>>> appreciate it.
>>> 				
>>> 				Thanks,
>>> 				Sam
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				What error(s) do you get when you try to
>>> run your f5rancid?
>>> 				
>>> 				Where does it fail if you debug your
>>> f5login?
>>> 				
>>> 				
>>> 				-lance
>>> 				
>>> 				
>>> 				          
>>>
>>> 				-------- Original Message --------
>>> 				Subject: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
>>> support
>>> 				From: Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net>
>>> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
>>> 				Date: Fri, July 13, 2007 12:45 pm
>>> 				To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> 				
>>> 				Hi,
>>> 				
>>> 				Did anybody happened to hack one of
>>> Cisco scripts to support 
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 			BigIP F5
>>> 			      
>>>
>>> 				boxes? It should be pretty simple. All I
>>> want to do is login and
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				type "b
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				list" which is equivalent of "show run"
>>> on cisco.
>>> 				
>>> 				However for some reason things not
>>> working. All I did was copied
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				clogin
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				to f5login, copied rancid to f5rancid
>>> and added following to
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				rancid-fe.
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				elsif ($vendor =~ /^f5$/i)
>>> { exec('f5rancid', 
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 			$router); }
>>> 			      
>>>
>>> 				Then modified f5 rancid file and kept
>>> only one command in list of
>>> 				commands "b list".
>>> 				
>>> 				For some reason its not working. I can
>>> post my configs here if
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				somebody
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				like to see them.
>>> 				
>>> 				Thanks,
>>> 				Sam
>>> 	
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 				Rancid-discuss mailing list
>>> 				Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> 	
>>> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>>> 				
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				
>>> 				          
>>>
>>> 			_______________________________________________
>>> 			Rancid-discuss mailing list
>>> 			Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> 	
>>> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>>> 			
>>> 			      
>>>
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From mashcraft at omniture.com  Wed Aug 29 19:14:55 2007
From: mashcraft at omniture.com (Mike Ashcraft)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:14:55 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
In-Reply-To: <46D5B1DC.9000207@munzani.com>
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Sam,
 
What version is on your old boxes?  4.x?  I don't know how well f5rancid
will work on BIG-IP 4.x as I do not have it to test. 
 
That said, along with all disclaimers of fitness for any purpose or any
liability for anything that might happen, I gave it a quick attempt.  
 
Here is a diff for f5login that you can test.  This tries to send the
TERM type from your environment and defaults to vt100 if it is not set.
It replaces a chunk of Cisco related code that is not needed.
 
418,421c418,424
<       -re "Enter Selection: " {
<                                 # Catalyst 1900s have some lame menu.
Enter
<                                 # K to reach a command-line.
<                                 send "K\r"
---
>       -re "Terminal type\?" {
>                                 # v4.x asks for term type
>                                   if {[info exists env(TERM)]} {
>                                       send "$env(TERM)\r"
>                                 } else {
>                                 send "vt100\r"
>                                   }

If that does not work,  adjust the regex to match the actual prompt and
hardcode vt100 if necessary.  If that fails, send a screen capture of
the normal login process and the results of an f5login for comparison. 
 
Mike  

________________________________

From: Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:50 AM
To: Mike Ashcraft
Cc: Lance; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support


Team,

I am sorry to reopen this old thread but the question I have relates to
this old thread.
Attached 2 rancid login files work fine on newer F5 boxes. However on
old boxes, it prompts for "term type" at the ssh login. I need to insert
logic in the script to answer to this "term type" question. What's best
way to handle it?

Pass it as an argument like
f5login -t vt100 device-name

and then catch the variable and add necessary logic for the expect?

Thanks,
Sam


	I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks or I would
have posted this sooner and possibly saved some of you a bit of effort. 
	 
	It sounds like Lance and Sam have put together a working
f5rancid with basic functionality which Sam posted last night.  I have
attached my f5rancid which I have been running for a few months.
Installation instructions are included as comments in the file.  This
version uses clogin so that a separate f5login script is not required.
	 
	This version formats and processes the output to make it more
usable.  As far as what is captured, I based this on the F5 equivalent
of a tech out.  It grabs a copy of all the configuration files, hardware
configuration and software version as well as the timestamps and file
sizes for SSL certs hosted on the device.  This facilitates rebuilding
from scratch as quickly as possible if this is ever needed.  
	 
	I was able to resolve the bug I mentioned yesterday by
increasing the clogin timeout.  On a small number of devices it failed
to process the last few commands when running from cron but always
worked properly from the command line on all devices [making it
difficult to track down].   I mention this because it may be an
appropriate fix for other intermittent problems sometimes discussed on
this list.
	 
	Any feedback is appreciated.  I hope to get f5 support added to
future releases of rancid.  
	 
	Thanks,
	 
	Mike
	 
	 

________________________________

	From: Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com] 
	Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:49 PM
	To: Lance
	Cc: Mike Ashcraft; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
	Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
	
	
	Lance,
	
	Thanks a lot for all your help. Pretty much you did all the work
while I watched what you are doing :-)..
	
	Attached are cleaned up files. In f5rancid file, I have left
some basic functions(non platform specific) just in case we expand this
script to do a lot more than just "b list" output. In rancid-fe, we
defined a new device type "f5", f5login was copied from clogin and
remarked some "term length" statements we don't need on F5.
	
	All 3 files are attached and working great. Please be aware, we
are not parsing anything at all. All its doing is basic function of
running "b list" command and capturing its output. As I expand more on
this, I will be sure to share with the audience here.
	
	Again, thanks a lot for all your help today.
	
	Regards,
	Sam
	

		I have helped Sam get a working f5rancid which requires
a f5login (only
		because it doesn't recognize the prompt with a space and
exit, unless
		you enter a return before the exit). He is cleaning up
all the unused
		functions and will post it.
		
		Once John H. sends out his script I will look at it and
see how it
		differs from the one I did with Sam. I will even help
Sam get it working
		for his setup. We will let you know when it is all
working.
		
		-lance
		
		  

			-------- Original Message --------
			Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
			From: "Mike Ashcraft" <mashcraft at omniture.com>
<mailto:mashcraft at omniture.com> 
			Date: Mon, July 16, 2007 11:48 am
			To: <sam at munzani.com> <mailto:sam at munzani.com> 
			Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
			
			Sam,
			 
			I have a working f5rancid that I have been using
for a number of months
			now.   I have one minor bug related to tracking
installed SSL certs
			which you probably don't care about.  Other than
that, it works great.
			 
			I did encounter and solve all the problems you
have been discussing on
			the list.
			 
			Let me know if you are interested in trying what
I have.  I have tested
			it with Big-IP 9.1.2.  
			 
			Mike
			
			________________________________
			
			From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
			[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On
Behalf Of Sam Munzani
			Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:58 AM
			To: smunzani at comcast.net
			Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
			Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
			
			
			BTW, this is what I see in the log when I do
rancid-run now. That means
			the f5rancid file(hacked copy of rancid) is
still missing something.
			
			more nfl.20070716.114842
			starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
			
			
			
			Trying to get all of the configs.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			=====================================
			Getting missed routers: round 1.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			=====================================
			Getting missed routers: round 2.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			=====================================
			Getting missed routers: round 3.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			=====================================
			Getting missed routers: round 4.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			
			cvs diff: Diffing .
			cvs diff: Diffing configs
			nfl.20070716.114842 71%starting: Mon Jul 16
11:48:42 CDT 2007
			
			
			
			Trying to get all of the configs.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			=====================================
			Getting missed routers: round 1.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			=====================================
			Getting missed routers: round 2.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			=====================================
			Getting missed routers: round 3.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			=====================================
			Getting missed routers: round 4.
			test-f5-01: End of run not found
			-bash: write: command not found
			
			cvs diff: Diffing .
			cvs diff: Diffing configs
			cvs diff: cannot find configs/test-f5-01
			cvs commit: Examining .
			cvs commit: Examining configs
			cvs commit: Up-to-date check failed for
`configs/test-f5-01'
			cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors
first!
			ls: test-f5-01: No such file or directory
			
			ending: Mon Jul 16 11:49:41 CDT 2007
			
			Thanks,
			Sam
			
			
				David,
				
				Thanks a lot for the tip. This worked
well. Now f5login goes
			much more 
				cleaner and the "root" doesn't set sent
again. I still have
			other issues 
				where rancid-run is backing up config
properly but I am still 
				troubleshooting it.
				
				Now here is a question. What does
"bldshgalsjd" mean and how
			does it do 
				this miracle?
				
				Thanks,
				Sam
				  
			
					Thanks for this tip, turns out
that this is also the
			reason the
					username gets entered at a
prompt on the cisco IPS
			devices. Since it's
					using SSH and therefore doesn't
need a username prompt,
			solution was
					to simply add in .cloginrc:
					
					add userprompt ids* bldshgalsjd
(<- something that
			won't get sent 
					during login)
					
					Regards,
					
					David
					
					On 14/07/07, Lance
<rancid at gheek.net> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net> 
			<mailto:rancid at gheek.net>
<mailto:rancid at gheek.net>   wrote:
					    
			
						Sam,
						
						Have you tried using
telnet to login, if the f5
			has it enabled.
						You may also want to set
auto enable in your
			.cloginrc for this device
						as it looks to clogin as
you are already in a
			cisco equivalent equal to
						enable since your prompt
has a # sign in it.
						
						Looking at your next
email along with this one
			it looks like you are
						already in a cisco
equivalent of enable after
			you login. f5login seems
						to be sending your
username of root as a command
			after you get connected
						because it sees this
line "Last login: Fri Jul
			13 14:38:03 2007 from
						172.24.100.12" and it
matches on the word
			"Login". See below.
						
	
"(Username|Login|login|user name):"? yes
						
						expect: set
expect_out(0,string) "login:"
						
						expect: set
expect_out(1,string) "login"
						
						expect: set
expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
						
						expect: set
expect_out(buffer) " \r\nLast
			login:"
						
						send: sending "root\r"
to { exp4 }
						
						expect: continuing
expect
						
						You are just using a
Cisco login/parsing script
			so it expects prompts
						from a Cisco device and
in this case you have a
			*nix SSH banner that
						gets interrupted. I know
you can use RANCID to
			backup *nix systems. So
						it knows how to
understand connecting to a *nix
			system. You might want
						to try this email thread
which asks about
			backing up Linux conifgs.
				
	
"http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
			ml"
<http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
ml> 
	
<http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
			ml>
<http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
ml>   
						
						Or you could modify the
existing f5login like
			so.
						
						I think you have to use
the carrot before the ()
			to work. I haven't
						checked this as I am at
home and not on a UNIX
			system right now. Sorry
						to lazy to check it out
right now. You might
			want to uncomment the line
						below 3. and comment out
the line below 2. and
			see if that works. This
						is the only point in the
code that I see it look
			for login in any line.
						If that doesn't work
send me back the debug and
			I will see what I can
						do. I am sure some
people that use expect more
			often then I can probably
						quickly tell you what to
use as syntax there.
						
						# Figure out prompts
						   set u_prompt [find
userprompt $router
						if { "$u_prompt" == "" }
{
						       #1. ORIGINAL
						       #set u_prompt
			"^(Username|Login|login|user name):"
						       #2. Modified to
read for a line beginning
			with 
						Username,Login,login, or
						user name.
						       set u_prompt
"^(Username|Login|login|user
			name):"
						       #3. Modified to
read for a line beginning
			with Login or login. 
						but I
						may be wrong
						       #set u_prompt
			"^(Username|^Login|^login|user name):"
						   } else {
						       set u_prompt
[join [lindex $u_prompt 0]
			""]
						
						
						Let me know if this
works for you.
						
						-Lance
						
						      
			
							--------
Original Message --------
							Subject: Re:
[rancid]  F5 load balancer
			support
							From: Sam
Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
			<mailto:smunzani at comcast.net>
<mailto:smunzani at comcast.net>  
							Date: Fri, July
13, 2007 2:30 pm
							To: Lance
<rancid at gheek.net> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net> 
			<mailto:rancid at gheek.net>
<mailto:rancid at gheek.net>  
							Cc:
rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
							
							Lance,
							
							F5 login works
fine with a minor error.
							
							$ f5login
test-f5-01
							test-f5-01
							spawn ssh -c
3des -x -l root test-f5-01
							Password:
							Last login: Fri
Jul 13 14:26:28 2007
			from 172.24.100.12
							root
	
[root at test-f5-01:Active] config # root
							-bash: root:
command not found
	
[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
	
[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
	
[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
							
							I don't know how
to debug otherwise I
			would turn on debug too. If you
							can provide some
hints on debug, I would
			appreciate it.
							
							Thanks,
							Sam
							        
			
							What error(s) do
you get when you try to
			run your f5rancid?
							
							Where does it
fail if you debug your
			f5login?
							
							
							-lance
							
							
							          
			
							--------
Original Message --------
							Subject:
[rancid]  F5 load balancer
			support
							From: Sam
Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
			<mailto:smunzani at comcast.net>
<mailto:smunzani at comcast.net>  
							Date: Fri, July
13, 2007 12:45 pm
							To:
rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
							
							Hi,
							
							Did anybody
happened to hack one of
			Cisco scripts to support 
							            
			
						BigIP F5
						      
			
							boxes? It should
be pretty simple. All I
			want to do is login and
							            
			
							type "b
							        
			
							list" which is
equivalent of "show run"
			on cisco.
							
							However for some
reason things not
			working. All I did was copied
							            
			
							clogin
							        
			
							to f5login,
copied rancid to f5rancid
			and added following to
							            
			
							rancid-fe.
							        
			
							elsif ($vendor
=~ /^f5$/i)
			{ exec('f5rancid', 
							            
			
						$router); }
						      
			
							Then modified f5
rancid file and kept
			only one command in list of
							commands "b
list".
							
							For some reason
its not working. I can
			post my configs here if
							            
			
							somebody
							        
			
							like to see
them.
							
							Thanks,
							Sam
				
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From smunzani at comcast.net  Wed Aug 29 21:06:21 2007
From: smunzani at comcast.net (Sam Munzani)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:06:21 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
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Mike,

Yes. The code was 4.x. I ended up hard coding the term with vt100. The 
look gave me an error for some reason. Below is the code I added below 
Cat1900 code.
When I added following code, I got error.
        -re "Terminal type\?"   {
                                if {[info exists env(TERM)]} {
                                        send "$env(TERM)\r"
                                        }
                                else { 
                                        send "vt100\r"
                                        }
                                }
########## error output ########
Terminal type? [xterm] invalid command name "else"
    while executing
"else {
                                        send "vt100\r"
                                        }"
    invoked from within
"expect -nobrace -re {(Connection refused|Secure connection [^
]+ refused)} {
            catch {close}; wait
            if !$progs {
                send_user "\nError: Connect..."
    invoked from within
"expect {
        -re "(Connection refused|Secure connection \[^\n\r]+ refused)" {
            catch {close}; wait
            if !$progs {
                send_user "\nError: Connection..."
    (procedure "login" line 73)
    invoked from within
"login $router $ruser $userpswd $passwd $enapasswd $cmethod $cyphertype"
    ("foreach" body line 111)
    invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
    set router [string tolower $router]
    send_user "$router\n"

################################

So I hard coded to vt100 like below

        -re "Terminal type\?"   {
                                send "vt100\r"
                                }

and things are working fine.

Thanks,
Sam
> Sam,
>  
> What version is on your old boxes?  4.x?  I don't know how well 
> f5rancid will work on BIG-IP 4.x as I do not have it to test. 
>  
> That said, along with all disclaimers of fitness for any purpose or 
> any liability for anything that might happen, I gave it a quick attempt. 
>  
> Here is a diff for f5login that you can test.  This tries to send the 
> TERM type from your environment and defaults to vt100 if it is not 
> set.  It replaces a chunk of Cisco related code that is not needed.
>  
> 418,421c418,424
> <       -re "Enter Selection: " {
> <                                 # Catalyst 1900s have some lame 
> menu.  Enter
> <                                 # K to reach a command-line.
> <                                 send "K\r"
> ---
> >       -re "Terminal type\?" {
> >                                 # v4.x asks for term type
> >                                   if {[info exists env(TERM)]} {
> >                                       send "$env(TERM)\r"
> >                                 } else {
> >                                 send "vt100\r"
> >                                   }
> If that does not work,  adjust the regex to match the actual prompt 
> and hardcode vt100 if necessary.  If that fails, send a screen capture 
> of the normal login process and the results of an f5login for comparison.
>  
> Mike 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:50 AM
> *To:* Mike Ashcraft
> *Cc:* Lance; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> *Subject:* Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>
> Team,
>
> I am sorry to reopen this old thread but the question I have relates 
> to this old thread.
> Attached 2 rancid login files work fine on newer F5 boxes. However on 
> old boxes, it prompts for "term type" at the ssh login. I need to 
> insert logic in the script to answer to this "term type" question. 
> What's best way to handle it?
>
> Pass it as an argument like
> f5login -t vt100 device-name
>
> and then catch the variable and add necessary logic for the expect?
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>> I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks or I would have 
>> posted this sooner and possibly saved some of you a bit of effort. 
>>  
>> It sounds like Lance and Sam have put together a working f5rancid 
>> with basic functionality which Sam posted last night.  I have 
>> attached my f5rancid which I have been running for a few months. 
>>  Installation instructions are included as comments in the file.  
>> This version uses clogin so that a separate f5login script is not 
>> required.
>>  
>> This version formats and processes the output to make it more 
>> usable.  As far as what is captured, I based this on the F5 
>> equivalent of a tech out.  It grabs a copy of all the configuration 
>> files, hardware configuration and software version as well as the 
>> timestamps and file sizes for SSL certs hosted on the device.  This 
>> facilitates rebuilding from scratch as quickly as possible if this is 
>> ever needed.  
>>  
>> I was able to resolve the bug I mentioned yesterday by increasing the 
>> clogin timeout.  On a small number of devices it failed to process 
>> the last few commands when running from cron but always worked 
>> properly from the command line on all devices [making it difficult to 
>> track down].   I mention this because it may be an appropriate fix 
>> for other intermittent problems sometimes discussed on this list.
>>  
>> Any feedback is appreciated.  I hope to get f5 support added to 
>> future releases of rancid. 
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Mike
>>  
>>  
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2007 7:49 PM
>> *To:* Lance
>> *Cc:* Mike Ashcraft; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>
>> Lance,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for all your help. Pretty much you did all the work 
>> while I watched what you are doing :-)..
>>
>> Attached are cleaned up files. In f5rancid file, I have left some 
>> basic functions(non platform specific) just in case we expand this 
>> script to do a lot more than just "b list" output. In rancid-fe, we 
>> defined a new device type "f5", f5login was copied from clogin and 
>> remarked some "term length" statements we don't need on F5.
>>
>> All 3 files are attached and working great. Please be aware, we are 
>> not parsing anything at all. All its doing is basic function of 
>> running "b list" command and capturing its output. As I expand more 
>> on this, I will be sure to share with the audience here.
>>
>> Again, thanks a lot for all your help today.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sam
>>> I have helped Sam get a working f5rancid which requires a f5login (only
>>> because it doesn't recognize the prompt with a space and exit, unless
>>> you enter a return before the exit). He is cleaning up all the unused
>>> functions and will post it.
>>>
>>> Once John H. sends out his script I will look at it and see how it
>>> differs from the one I did with Sam. I will even help Sam get it working
>>> for his setup. We will let you know when it is all working.
>>>
>>> -lance
>>>
>>>   
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>>> From: "Mike Ashcraft" <mashcraft at omniture.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, July 16, 2007 11:48 am
>>>> To: <sam at munzani.com>
>>>> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>>
>>>> Sam,
>>>>  
>>>> I have a working f5rancid that I have been using for a number of months
>>>> now.   I have one minor bug related to tracking installed SSL certs
>>>> which you probably don't care about.  Other than that, it works great.
>>>>  
>>>> I did encounter and solve all the problems you have been discussing on
>>>> the list.
>>>>  
>>>> Let me know if you are interested in trying what I have.  I have tested
>>>> it with Big-IP 9.1.2.  
>>>>  
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
>>>> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Sam Munzani
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:58 AM
>>>> To: smunzani at comcast.net
>>>> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>> Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BTW, this is what I see in the log when I do rancid-run now. That means
>>>> the f5rancid file(hacked copy of rancid) is still missing something.
>>>>
>>>> more nfl.20070716.114842
>>>> starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trying to get all of the configs.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Getting missed routers: round 1.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Getting missed routers: round 2.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Getting missed routers: round 3.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Getting missed routers: round 4.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>
>>>> cvs diff: Diffing .
>>>> cvs diff: Diffing configs
>>>> nfl.20070716.114842 71%starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trying to get all of the configs.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Getting missed routers: round 1.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Getting missed routers: round 2.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Getting missed routers: round 3.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Getting missed routers: round 4.
>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>
>>>> cvs diff: Diffing .
>>>> cvs diff: Diffing configs
>>>> cvs diff: cannot find configs/test-f5-01
>>>> cvs commit: Examining .
>>>> cvs commit: Examining configs
>>>> cvs commit: Up-to-date check failed for `configs/test-f5-01'
>>>> cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first!
>>>> ls: test-f5-01: No such file or directory
>>>>
>>>> ending: Mon Jul 16 11:49:41 CDT 2007
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 	David,
>>>> 	
>>>> 	Thanks a lot for the tip. This worked well. Now f5login goes
>>>> much more 
>>>> 	cleaner and the "root" doesn't set sent again. I still have
>>>> other issues 
>>>> 	where rancid-run is backing up config properly but I am still 
>>>> 	troubleshooting it.
>>>> 	
>>>> 	Now here is a question. What does "bldshgalsjd" mean and how
>>>> does it do 
>>>> 	this miracle?
>>>> 	
>>>> 	Thanks,
>>>> 	Sam
>>>> 	  
>>>>
>>>> 		Thanks for this tip, turns out that this is also the
>>>> reason the
>>>> 		username gets entered at a prompt on the cisco IPS
>>>> devices. Since it's
>>>> 		using SSH and therefore doesn't need a username prompt,
>>>> solution was
>>>> 		to simply add in .cloginrc:
>>>> 		
>>>> 		add userprompt ids* bldshgalsjd  (<- something that
>>>> won't get sent 
>>>> 		during login)
>>>> 		
>>>> 		Regards,
>>>> 		
>>>> 		David
>>>> 		
>>>> 		On 14/07/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
>>>> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net>  wrote:
>>>> 		    
>>>>
>>>> 			Sam,
>>>> 			
>>>> 			Have you tried using telnet to login, if the f5
>>>> has it enabled.
>>>> 			You may also want to set auto enable in your
>>>> .cloginrc for this device
>>>> 			as it looks to clogin as you are already in a
>>>> cisco equivalent equal to
>>>> 			enable since your prompt has a # sign in it.
>>>> 			
>>>> 			Looking at your next email along with this one
>>>> it looks like you are
>>>> 			already in a cisco equivalent of enable after
>>>> you login. f5login seems
>>>> 			to be sending your username of root as a command
>>>> after you get connected
>>>> 			because it sees this line "Last login: Fri Jul
>>>> 13 14:38:03 2007 from
>>>> 			172.24.100.12" and it matches on the word
>>>> "Login". See below.
>>>> 			
>>>> 			"(Username|Login|login|user name):"? yes
>>>> 			
>>>> 			expect: set expect_out(0,string) "login:"
>>>> 			
>>>> 			expect: set expect_out(1,string) "login"
>>>> 			
>>>> 			expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
>>>> 			
>>>> 			expect: set expect_out(buffer) " \r\nLast
>>>> login:"
>>>> 			
>>>> 			send: sending "root\r" to { exp4 }
>>>> 			
>>>> 			expect: continuing expect
>>>> 			
>>>> 			You are just using a Cisco login/parsing script
>>>> so it expects prompts
>>>> 			from a Cisco device and in this case you have a
>>>> *nix SSH banner that
>>>> 			gets interrupted. I know you can use RANCID to
>>>> backup *nix systems. So
>>>> 			it knows how to understand connecting to a *nix
>>>> system. You might want
>>>> 			to try this email thread which asks about
>>>> backing up Linux conifgs.
>>>> 	
>>>> "http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
>>>> ml"
>>>> <http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
>>>> ml>  
>>>> 			
>>>> 			Or you could modify the existing f5login like
>>>> so.
>>>> 			
>>>> 			I think you have to use the carrot before the ()
>>>> to work. I haven't
>>>> 			checked this as I am at home and not on a UNIX
>>>> system right now. Sorry
>>>> 			to lazy to check it out right now. You might
>>>> want to uncomment the line
>>>> 			below 3. and comment out the line below 2. and
>>>> see if that works. This
>>>> 			is the only point in the code that I see it look
>>>> for login in any line.
>>>> 			If that doesn't work send me back the debug and
>>>> I will see what I can
>>>> 			do. I am sure some people that use expect more
>>>> often then I can probably
>>>> 			quickly tell you what to use as syntax there.
>>>> 			
>>>> 			# Figure out prompts
>>>> 			   set u_prompt [find userprompt $router
>>>> 			if { "$u_prompt" == "" } {
>>>> 			       #1. ORIGINAL
>>>> 			       #set u_prompt
>>>> "^(Username|Login|login|user name):"
>>>> 			       #2. Modified to read for a line beginning
>>>> with 
>>>> 			Username,Login,login, or
>>>> 			user name.
>>>> 			       set u_prompt "^(Username|Login|login|user
>>>> name):"
>>>> 			       #3. Modified to read for a line beginning
>>>> with Login or login. 
>>>> 			but I
>>>> 			may be wrong
>>>> 			       #set u_prompt
>>>> "^(Username|^Login|^login|user name):"
>>>> 			   } else {
>>>> 			       set u_prompt [join [lindex $u_prompt 0]
>>>> ""]
>>>> 			
>>>> 			
>>>> 			Let me know if this works for you.
>>>> 			
>>>> 			-Lance
>>>> 			
>>>> 			      
>>>>
>>>> 				-------- Original Message --------
>>>> 				Subject: Re: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
>>>> support
>>>> 				From: Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net>
>>>> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
>>>> 				Date: Fri, July 13, 2007 2:30 pm
>>>> 				To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
>>>> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net> 
>>>> 				Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>> 				
>>>> 				Lance,
>>>> 				
>>>> 				F5 login works fine with a minor error.
>>>> 				
>>>> 				$ f5login test-f5-01
>>>> 				test-f5-01
>>>> 				spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l root test-f5-01
>>>> 				Password:
>>>> 				Last login: Fri Jul 13 14:26:28 2007
>>>> from 172.24.100.12
>>>> 				root
>>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config # root
>>>> 				-bash: root: command not found
>>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>>> 				
>>>> 				I don't know how to debug otherwise I
>>>> would turn on debug too. If you
>>>> 				can provide some hints on debug, I would
>>>> appreciate it.
>>>> 				
>>>> 				Thanks,
>>>> 				Sam
>>>> 				        
>>>>
>>>> 				What error(s) do you get when you try to
>>>> run your f5rancid?
>>>> 				
>>>> 				Where does it fail if you debug your
>>>> f5login?
>>>> 				
>>>> 				
>>>> 				-lance
>>>> 				
>>>> 				
>>>> 				          
>>>>
>>>> 				-------- Original Message --------
>>>> 				Subject: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
>>>> support
>>>> 				From: Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net>
>>>> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
>>>> 				Date: Fri, July 13, 2007 12:45 pm
>>>> 				To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>> 				
>>>> 				Hi,
>>>> 				
>>>> 				Did anybody happened to hack one of
>>>> Cisco scripts to support 
>>>> 				            
>>>>
>>>> 			BigIP F5
>>>> 			      
>>>>
>>>> 				boxes? It should be pretty simple. All I
>>>> want to do is login and
>>>> 				            
>>>>
>>>> 				type "b
>>>> 				        
>>>>
>>>> 				list" which is equivalent of "show run"
>>>> on cisco.
>>>> 				
>>>> 				However for some reason things not
>>>> working. All I did was copied
>>>> 				            
>>>>
>>>> 				clogin
>>>> 				        
>>>>
>>>> 				to f5login, copied rancid to f5rancid
>>>> and added following to
>>>> 				            
>>>>
>>>> 				rancid-fe.
>>>> 				        
>>>>
>>>> 				elsif ($vendor =~ /^f5$/i)
>>>> { exec('f5rancid', 
>>>> 				            
>>>>
>>>> 			$router); }
>>>> 			      
>>>>
>>>> 				Then modified f5 rancid file and kept
>>>> only one command in list of
>>>> 				commands "b list".
>>>> 				
>>>> 				For some reason its not working. I can
>>>> post my configs here if
>>>> 				            
>>>>
>>>> 				somebody
>>>> 				        
>>>>
>>>> 				like to see them.
>>>> 				
>>>> 				Thanks,
>>>> 				Sam
>>>> 	
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From mashcraft at omniture.com  Wed Aug 29 21:32:43 2007
From: mashcraft at omniture.com (Mike Ashcraft)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:32:43 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
In-Reply-To: <46D5DFCD.8030305@comcast.net>
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Sam,
 
Glad you got it working.  
 
Your problem was that you inserted my patch manually and accidentally
made a syntax error.
 
In expect, you can not start a line with else, it has to be:
 
    } else {
 
If you have a chance to make this change and try it out, please let me
know.  
 
 
Mike

________________________________

From: Sam Munzani [mailto:smunzani at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:06 PM
To: Mike Ashcraft
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support


Mike,

Yes. The code was 4.x. I ended up hard coding the term with vt100. The
look gave me an error for some reason. Below is the code I added below
Cat1900 code.
When I added following code, I got error.
        -re "Terminal type\?"   {
                                if {[info exists env(TERM)]} {
                                        send "$env(TERM)\r"
                                        }
                                else {  
                                        send "vt100\r"
                                        }
                                }
########## error output ########
Terminal type? [xterm] invalid command name "else"
    while executing
"else {
                                        send "vt100\r"
                                        }"
    invoked from within
"expect -nobrace -re {(Connection refused|Secure connection [^
]+ refused)} {
            catch {close}; wait
            if !$progs {
                send_user "\nError: Connect..."
    invoked from within
"expect {
        -re "(Connection refused|Secure connection \[^\n\r]+ refused)" {
            catch {close}; wait
            if !$progs {
                send_user "\nError: Connection..."
    (procedure "login" line 73)
    invoked from within
"login $router $ruser $userpswd $passwd $enapasswd $cmethod $cyphertype"
    ("foreach" body line 111)
    invoked from within
"foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
    set router [string tolower $router]
    send_user "$router\n"

################################

So I hard coded to vt100 like below

        -re "Terminal type\?"   {
                                send "vt100\r"
                                }

and things are working fine.

Thanks,
Sam


	Sam,
	 
	What version is on your old boxes?  4.x?  I don't know how well
f5rancid will work on BIG-IP 4.x as I do not have it to test. 
	 
	That said, along with all disclaimers of fitness for any purpose
or any liability for anything that might happen, I gave it a quick
attempt.  
	 
	Here is a diff for f5login that you can test.  This tries to
send the TERM type from your environment and defaults to vt100 if it is
not set.  It replaces a chunk of Cisco related code that is not needed.
	 
	418,421c418,424
	<       -re "Enter Selection: " {
	<                                 # Catalyst 1900s have some
lame menu.  Enter
	<                                 # K to reach a command-line.
	<                                 send "K\r"
	---
	>       -re "Terminal type\?" {
	>                                 # v4.x asks for term type
	>                                   if {[info exists env(TERM)]}
{
	>                                       send "$env(TERM)\r"
	>                                 } else {
	>                                 send "vt100\r"
	>                                   }
	
	If that does not work,  adjust the regex to match the actual
prompt and hardcode vt100 if necessary.  If that fails, send a screen
capture of the normal login process and the results of an f5login for
comparison. 
	 
	Mike  
	
________________________________

	From: Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com] 
	Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:50 AM
	To: Mike Ashcraft
	Cc: Lance; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
	Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
	
	
	Team,
	
	I am sorry to reopen this old thread but the question I have
relates to this old thread.
	Attached 2 rancid login files work fine on newer F5 boxes.
However on old boxes, it prompts for "term type" at the ssh login. I
need to insert logic in the script to answer to this "term type"
question. What's best way to handle it?
	
	Pass it as an argument like
	f5login -t vt100 device-name
	
	and then catch the variable and add necessary logic for the
expect?
	
	Thanks,
	Sam
	

		I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks or
I would have posted this sooner and possibly saved some of you a bit of
effort. 
		 
		It sounds like Lance and Sam have put together a working
f5rancid with basic functionality which Sam posted last night.  I have
attached my f5rancid which I have been running for a few months.
Installation instructions are included as comments in the file.  This
version uses clogin so that a separate f5login script is not required.
		 
		This version formats and processes the output to make it
more usable.  As far as what is captured, I based this on the F5
equivalent of a tech out.  It grabs a copy of all the configuration
files, hardware configuration and software version as well as the
timestamps and file sizes for SSL certs hosted on the device.  This
facilitates rebuilding from scratch as quickly as possible if this is
ever needed.  
		 
		I was able to resolve the bug I mentioned yesterday by
increasing the clogin timeout.  On a small number of devices it failed
to process the last few commands when running from cron but always
worked properly from the command line on all devices [making it
difficult to track down].   I mention this because it may be an
appropriate fix for other intermittent problems sometimes discussed on
this list.
		 
		Any feedback is appreciated.  I hope to get f5 support
added to future releases of rancid.  
		 
		Thanks,
		 
		Mike
		 
		 

________________________________

		From: Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com] 
		Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:49 PM
		To: Lance
		Cc: Mike Ashcraft; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
		Subject: Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
		
		
		Lance,
		
		Thanks a lot for all your help. Pretty much you did all
the work while I watched what you are doing :-)..
		
		Attached are cleaned up files. In f5rancid file, I have
left some basic functions(non platform specific) just in case we expand
this script to do a lot more than just "b list" output. In rancid-fe, we
defined a new device type "f5", f5login was copied from clogin and
remarked some "term length" statements we don't need on F5.
		
		All 3 files are attached and working great. Please be
aware, we are not parsing anything at all. All its doing is basic
function of running "b list" command and capturing its output. As I
expand more on this, I will be sure to share with the audience here.
		
		Again, thanks a lot for all your help today.
		
		Regards,
		Sam
		

			I have helped Sam get a working f5rancid which
requires a f5login (only
			because it doesn't recognize the prompt with a
space and exit, unless
			you enter a return before the exit). He is
cleaning up all the unused
			functions and will post it.
			
			Once John H. sends out his script I will look at
it and see how it
			differs from the one I did with Sam. I will even
help Sam get it working
			for his setup. We will let you know when it is
all working.
			
			-lance
			
			  

				-------- Original Message --------
				Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer
support
				From: "Mike Ashcraft"
<mashcraft at omniture.com> <mailto:mashcraft at omniture.com> 
				Date: Mon, July 16, 2007 11:48 am
				To: <sam at munzani.com>
<mailto:sam at munzani.com> 
				Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
				
				Sam,
				 
				I have a working f5rancid that I have
been using for a number of months
				now.   I have one minor bug related to
tracking installed SSL certs
				which you probably don't care about.
Other than that, it works great.
				 
				I did encounter and solve all the
problems you have been discussing on
				the list.
				 
				Let me know if you are interested in
trying what I have.  I have tested
				it with Big-IP 9.1.2.  
				 
				Mike
				
				________________________________
				
				From:
rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
	
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Sam Munzani
				Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:58 AM
				To: smunzani at comcast.net
				Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
				Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer
support
				
				
				BTW, this is what I see in the log when
I do rancid-run now. That means
				the f5rancid file(hacked copy of rancid)
is still missing something.
				
				more nfl.20070716.114842
				starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
				
				
				
				Trying to get all of the configs.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				=====================================
				Getting missed routers: round 1.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				=====================================
				Getting missed routers: round 2.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				=====================================
				Getting missed routers: round 3.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				=====================================
				Getting missed routers: round 4.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				
				cvs diff: Diffing .
				cvs diff: Diffing configs
				nfl.20070716.114842 71%starting: Mon Jul
16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
				
				
				
				Trying to get all of the configs.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				=====================================
				Getting missed routers: round 1.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				=====================================
				Getting missed routers: round 2.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				=====================================
				Getting missed routers: round 3.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				=====================================
				Getting missed routers: round 4.
				test-f5-01: End of run not found
				-bash: write: command not found
				
				cvs diff: Diffing .
				cvs diff: Diffing configs
				cvs diff: cannot find configs/test-f5-01
				cvs commit: Examining .
				cvs commit: Examining configs
				cvs commit: Up-to-date check failed for
`configs/test-f5-01'
				cvs [commit aborted]: correct above
errors first!
				ls: test-f5-01: No such file or
directory
				
				ending: Mon Jul 16 11:49:41 CDT 2007
				
				Thanks,
				Sam
				
				
					David,
					
					Thanks a lot for the tip. This
worked well. Now f5login goes
				much more 
					cleaner and the "root" doesn't
set sent again. I still have
				other issues 
					where rancid-run is backing up
config properly but I am still 
					troubleshooting it.
					
					Now here is a question. What
does "bldshgalsjd" mean and how
				does it do 
					this miracle?
					
					Thanks,
					Sam
					  
				
						Thanks for this tip,
turns out that this is also the
				reason the
						username gets entered at
a prompt on the cisco IPS
				devices. Since it's
						using SSH and therefore
doesn't need a username prompt,
				solution was
						to simply add in
.cloginrc:
						
						add userprompt ids*
bldshgalsjd  (<- something that
				won't get sent 
						during login)
						
						Regards,
						
						David
						
						On 14/07/07, Lance
<rancid at gheek.net> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net> 
				<mailto:rancid at gheek.net>
<mailto:rancid at gheek.net>   wrote:
						    
				
							Sam,
							
							Have you tried
using telnet to login, if the f5
				has it enabled.
							You may also
want to set auto enable in your
				.cloginrc for this device
							as it looks to
clogin as you are already in a
				cisco equivalent equal to
							enable since
your prompt has a # sign in it.
							
							Looking at your
next email along with this one
				it looks like you are
							already in a
cisco equivalent of enable after
				you login. f5login seems
							to be sending
your username of root as a command
				after you get connected
							because it sees
this line "Last login: Fri Jul
				13 14:38:03 2007 from
							172.24.100.12"
and it matches on the word
				"Login". See below.
							
	
"(Username|Login|login|user name):"? yes
							
							expect: set
expect_out(0,string) "login:"
							
							expect: set
expect_out(1,string) "login"
							
							expect: set
expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
							
							expect: set
expect_out(buffer) " \r\nLast
				login:"
							
							send: sending
"root\r" to { exp4 }
							
							expect:
continuing expect
							
							You are just
using a Cisco login/parsing script
				so it expects prompts
							from a Cisco
device and in this case you have a
				*nix SSH banner that
							gets
interrupted. I know you can use RANCID to
				backup *nix systems. So
							it knows how to
understand connecting to a *nix
				system. You might want
							to try this
email thread which asks about
				backing up Linux conifgs.
					
	
"http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
				ml"
<http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
ml> 
	
<http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
				ml>
<http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
ml>   
							
							Or you could
modify the existing f5login like
				so.
							
							I think you have
to use the carrot before the ()
				to work. I haven't
							checked this as
I am at home and not on a UNIX
				system right now. Sorry
							to lazy to check
it out right now. You might
				want to uncomment the line
							below 3. and
comment out the line below 2. and
				see if that works. This
							is the only
point in the code that I see it look
				for login in any line.
							If that doesn't
work send me back the debug and
				I will see what I can
							do. I am sure
some people that use expect more
				often then I can probably
							quickly tell you
what to use as syntax there.
							
							# Figure out
prompts
							   set u_prompt
[find userprompt $router
							if { "$u_prompt"
== "" } {
							       #1.
ORIGINAL
							       #set
u_prompt
				"^(Username|Login|login|user name):"
							       #2.
Modified to read for a line beginning
				with 
	
Username,Login,login, or
							user name.
							       set
u_prompt "^(Username|Login|login|user
				name):"
							       #3.
Modified to read for a line beginning
				with Login or login. 
							but I
							may be wrong
							       #set
u_prompt
				"^(Username|^Login|^login|user name):"
							   } else {
							       set
u_prompt [join [lindex $u_prompt 0]
				""]
							
							
							Let me know if
this works for you.
							
							-Lance
							
							      
				
								--------
Original Message --------
								Subject:
Re: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
				support
								From:
Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
				<mailto:smunzani at comcast.net>
<mailto:smunzani at comcast.net>  
								Date:
Fri, July 13, 2007 2:30 pm
								To:
Lance <rancid at gheek.net> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net> 
				<mailto:rancid at gheek.net>
<mailto:rancid at gheek.net>  
								Cc:
rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
								
								Lance,
								
								F5 login
works fine with a minor error.
								
								$
f5login test-f5-01
	
test-f5-01
								spawn
ssh -c 3des -x -l root test-f5-01
	
Password:
								Last
login: Fri Jul 13 14:26:28 2007
				from 172.24.100.12
								root
	
[root at test-f5-01:Active] config # root
								-bash:
root: command not found
	
[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
	
[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
	
[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
								
								I don't
know how to debug otherwise I
				would turn on debug too. If you
								can
provide some hints on debug, I would
				appreciate it.
								
								Thanks,
								Sam
								        
				
								What
error(s) do you get when you try to
				run your f5rancid?
								
								Where
does it fail if you debug your
				f5login?
								
								
								-lance
								
								
	

				
								--------
Original Message --------
								Subject:
[rancid]  F5 load balancer
				support
								From:
Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
				<mailto:smunzani at comcast.net>
<mailto:smunzani at comcast.net>  
								Date:
Fri, July 13, 2007 12:45 pm
								To:
rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
								
								Hi,
								
								Did
anybody happened to hack one of
				Cisco scripts to support 
	

				
							BigIP F5
							      
				
								boxes?
It should be pretty simple. All I
				want to do is login and
	

				
								type "b
								        
				
								list"
which is equivalent of "show run"
				on cisco.
								
								However
for some reason things not
				working. All I did was copied
	

				
								clogin
								        
				
								to
f5login, copied rancid to f5rancid
				and added following to
	

				
	
rancid-fe.
								        
				
								elsif
($vendor =~ /^f5$/i)
				{ exec('f5rancid', 
	

				
							$router); }
							      
				
								Then
modified f5 rancid file and kept
				only one command in list of
								commands
"b list".
								
								For some
reason its not working. I can
				post my configs here if
	

				
								somebody
								        
				
								like to
see them.
								
								Thanks,
								Sam
					
	
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From smunzani at comcast.net  Wed Aug 29 21:45:58 2007
From: smunzani at comcast.net (Sam Munzani)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:45:58 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
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Mike,

You are absolutely correct. My manual typing and ignoring expect syntax 
rules had issues. This time I cut-pasted your code and it worked fine.

Thanks a lot,
Sam
> Sam,
>  
> Glad you got it working. 
>  
> Your problem was that you inserted my patch manually and accidentally 
> made a syntax error.
>  
> In expect, you can not start a line with else, it has to be:
>  
>     } else {
>  
> If you have a chance to make this change and try it out, please let me 
> know. 
>  
>  
> Mike
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Sam Munzani [mailto:smunzani at comcast.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:06 PM
> *To:* Mike Ashcraft
> *Cc:* rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> *Subject:* Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>
> Mike,
>
> Yes. The code was 4.x. I ended up hard coding the term with vt100. The 
> look gave me an error for some reason. Below is the code I added below 
> Cat1900 code.
> When I added following code, I got error.
>         -re "Terminal type\?"   {
>                                 if {[info exists env(TERM)]} {
>                                         send "$env(TERM)\r"
>                                         }
>                                 else { 
>                                         send "vt100\r"
>                                         }
>                                 }
> ########## error output ########
> Terminal type? [xterm] invalid command name "else"
>     while executing
> "else {
>                                         send "vt100\r"
>                                         }"
>     invoked from within
> "expect -nobrace -re {(Connection refused|Secure connection [^
> ]+ refused)} {
>             catch {close}; wait
>             if !$progs {
>                 send_user "\nError: Connect..."
>     invoked from within
> "expect {
>         -re "(Connection refused|Secure connection \[^\n\r]+ refused)" {
>             catch {close}; wait
>             if !$progs {
>                 send_user "\nError: Connection..."
>     (procedure "login" line 73)
>     invoked from within
> "login $router $ruser $userpswd $passwd $enapasswd $cmethod $cyphertype"
>     ("foreach" body line 111)
>     invoked from within
> "foreach router [lrange $argv $i end] {
>     set router [string tolower $router]
>     send_user "$router\n"
>
> ################################
>
> So I hard coded to vt100 like below
>
>         -re "Terminal type\?"   {
>                                 send "vt100\r"
>                                 }
>
> and things are working fine.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>> Sam,
>>  
>> What version is on your old boxes?  4.x?  I don't know how well 
>> f5rancid will work on BIG-IP 4.x as I do not have it to test. 
>>  
>> That said, along with all disclaimers of fitness for any purpose or 
>> any liability for anything that might happen, I gave it a 
>> quick attempt. 
>>  
>> Here is a diff for f5login that you can test.  This tries to send the 
>> TERM type from your environment and defaults to vt100 if it is not 
>> set.  It replaces a chunk of Cisco related code that is not needed.
>>  
>> 418,421c418,424
>> <       -re "Enter Selection: " {
>> <                                 # Catalyst 1900s have some lame 
>> menu.  Enter
>> <                                 # K to reach a command-line.
>> <                                 send "K\r"
>> ---
>> >       -re "Terminal type\?" {
>> >                                 # v4.x asks for term type
>> >                                   if {[info exists env(TERM)]} {
>> >                                       send "$env(TERM)\r"
>> >                                 } else {
>> >                                 send "vt100\r"
>> >                                   }
>> If that does not work,  adjust the regex to match the actual prompt 
>> and hardcode vt100 if necessary.  If that fails, send a screen 
>> capture of the normal login process and the results of an f5login for 
>> comparison.
>>  
>> Mike 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:50 AM
>> *To:* Mike Ashcraft
>> *Cc:* Lance; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>
>> Team,
>>
>> I am sorry to reopen this old thread but the question I have relates 
>> to this old thread.
>> Attached 2 rancid login files work fine on newer F5 boxes. However on 
>> old boxes, it prompts for "term type" at the ssh login. I need to 
>> insert logic in the script to answer to this "term type" question. 
>> What's best way to handle it?
>>
>> Pass it as an argument like
>> f5login -t vt100 device-name
>>
>> and then catch the variable and add necessary logic for the expect?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sam
>>> I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks or I would have 
>>> posted this sooner and possibly saved some of you a bit of effort. 
>>>  
>>> It sounds like Lance and Sam have put together a working f5rancid 
>>> with basic functionality which Sam posted last night.  I have 
>>> attached my f5rancid which I have been running for a few months. 
>>>  Installation instructions are included as comments in the file.  
>>> This version uses clogin so that a separate f5login script is not 
>>> required.
>>>  
>>> This version formats and processes the output to make it more 
>>> usable.  As far as what is captured, I based this on the F5 
>>> equivalent of a tech out.  It grabs a copy of all the configuration 
>>> files, hardware configuration and software version as well as the 
>>> timestamps and file sizes for SSL certs hosted on the device.  This 
>>> facilitates rebuilding from scratch as quickly as possible if this 
>>> is ever needed.  
>>>  
>>> I was able to resolve the bug I mentioned yesterday by increasing 
>>> the clogin timeout.  On a small number of devices it failed to 
>>> process the last few commands when running from cron but always 
>>> worked properly from the command line on all devices [making it 
>>> difficult to track down].   I mention this because it may be an 
>>> appropriate fix for other intermittent problems sometimes discussed 
>>> on this list.
>>>  
>>> Any feedback is appreciated.  I hope to get f5 support added to 
>>> future releases of rancid. 
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>>  
>>> Mike
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2007 7:49 PM
>>> *To:* Lance
>>> *Cc:* Mike Ashcraft; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>>
>>> Lance,
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for all your help. Pretty much you did all the work 
>>> while I watched what you are doing :-)..
>>>
>>> Attached are cleaned up files. In f5rancid file, I have left some 
>>> basic functions(non platform specific) just in case we expand this 
>>> script to do a lot more than just "b list" output. In rancid-fe, we 
>>> defined a new device type "f5", f5login was copied from clogin and 
>>> remarked some "term length" statements we don't need on F5.
>>>
>>> All 3 files are attached and working great. Please be aware, we are 
>>> not parsing anything at all. All its doing is basic function of 
>>> running "b list" command and capturing its output. As I expand more 
>>> on this, I will be sure to share with the audience here.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks a lot for all your help today.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sam
>>>> I have helped Sam get a working f5rancid which requires a f5login (only
>>>> because it doesn't recognize the prompt with a space and exit, unless
>>>> you enter a return before the exit). He is cleaning up all the unused
>>>> functions and will post it.
>>>>
>>>> Once John H. sends out his script I will look at it and see how it
>>>> differs from the one I did with Sam. I will even help Sam get it working
>>>> for his setup. We will let you know when it is all working.
>>>>
>>>> -lance
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>>>> From: "Mike Ashcraft" <mashcraft at omniture.com>
>>>>> Date: Mon, July 16, 2007 11:48 am
>>>>> To: <sam at munzani.com>
>>>>> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam,
>>>>>  
>>>>> I have a working f5rancid that I have been using for a number of months
>>>>> now.   I have one minor bug related to tracking installed SSL certs
>>>>> which you probably don't care about.  Other than that, it works great.
>>>>>  
>>>>> I did encounter and solve all the problems you have been discussing on
>>>>> the list.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Let me know if you are interested in trying what I have.  I have tested
>>>>> it with Big-IP 9.1.2.  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
>>>>> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Sam Munzani
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:58 AM
>>>>> To: smunzani at comcast.net
>>>>> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>>> Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, this is what I see in the log when I do rancid-run now. That means
>>>>> the f5rancid file(hacked copy of rancid) is still missing something.
>>>>>
>>>>> more nfl.20070716.114842
>>>>> starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to get all of the configs.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Getting missed routers: round 1.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Getting missed routers: round 2.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Getting missed routers: round 3.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Getting missed routers: round 4.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>>
>>>>> cvs diff: Diffing .
>>>>> cvs diff: Diffing configs
>>>>> nfl.20070716.114842 71%starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to get all of the configs.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Getting missed routers: round 1.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Getting missed routers: round 2.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Getting missed routers: round 3.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Getting missed routers: round 4.
>>>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>>>
>>>>> cvs diff: Diffing .
>>>>> cvs diff: Diffing configs
>>>>> cvs diff: cannot find configs/test-f5-01
>>>>> cvs commit: Examining .
>>>>> cvs commit: Examining configs
>>>>> cvs commit: Up-to-date check failed for `configs/test-f5-01'
>>>>> cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first!
>>>>> ls: test-f5-01: No such file or directory
>>>>>
>>>>> ending: Mon Jul 16 11:49:41 CDT 2007
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Sam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 	David,
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	Thanks a lot for the tip. This worked well. Now f5login goes
>>>>> much more 
>>>>> 	cleaner and the "root" doesn't set sent again. I still have
>>>>> other issues 
>>>>> 	where rancid-run is backing up config properly but I am still 
>>>>> 	troubleshooting it.
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	Now here is a question. What does "bldshgalsjd" mean and how
>>>>> does it do 
>>>>> 	this miracle?
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 	Thanks,
>>>>> 	Sam
>>>>> 	  
>>>>>
>>>>> 		Thanks for this tip, turns out that this is also the
>>>>> reason the
>>>>> 		username gets entered at a prompt on the cisco IPS
>>>>> devices. Since it's
>>>>> 		using SSH and therefore doesn't need a username prompt,
>>>>> solution was
>>>>> 		to simply add in .cloginrc:
>>>>> 		
>>>>> 		add userprompt ids* bldshgalsjd  (<- something that
>>>>> won't get sent 
>>>>> 		during login)
>>>>> 		
>>>>> 		Regards,
>>>>> 		
>>>>> 		David
>>>>> 		
>>>>> 		On 14/07/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
>>>>> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net>  wrote:
>>>>> 		    
>>>>>
>>>>> 			Sam,
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			Have you tried using telnet to login, if the f5
>>>>> has it enabled.
>>>>> 			You may also want to set auto enable in your
>>>>> .cloginrc for this device
>>>>> 			as it looks to clogin as you are already in a
>>>>> cisco equivalent equal to
>>>>> 			enable since your prompt has a # sign in it.
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			Looking at your next email along with this one
>>>>> it looks like you are
>>>>> 			already in a cisco equivalent of enable after
>>>>> you login. f5login seems
>>>>> 			to be sending your username of root as a command
>>>>> after you get connected
>>>>> 			because it sees this line "Last login: Fri Jul
>>>>> 13 14:38:03 2007 from
>>>>> 			172.24.100.12" and it matches on the word
>>>>> "Login". See below.
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			"(Username|Login|login|user name):"? yes
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			expect: set expect_out(0,string) "login:"
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			expect: set expect_out(1,string) "login"
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			expect: set expect_out(buffer) " \r\nLast
>>>>> login:"
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			send: sending "root\r" to { exp4 }
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			expect: continuing expect
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			You are just using a Cisco login/parsing script
>>>>> so it expects prompts
>>>>> 			from a Cisco device and in this case you have a
>>>>> *nix SSH banner that
>>>>> 			gets interrupted. I know you can use RANCID to
>>>>> backup *nix systems. So
>>>>> 			it knows how to understand connecting to a *nix
>>>>> system. You might want
>>>>> 			to try this email thread which asks about
>>>>> backing up Linux conifgs.
>>>>> 	
>>>>> "http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
>>>>> ml"
>>>>> <http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
>>>>> ml>  
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			Or you could modify the existing f5login like
>>>>> so.
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			I think you have to use the carrot before the ()
>>>>> to work. I haven't
>>>>> 			checked this as I am at home and not on a UNIX
>>>>> system right now. Sorry
>>>>> 			to lazy to check it out right now. You might
>>>>> want to uncomment the line
>>>>> 			below 3. and comment out the line below 2. and
>>>>> see if that works. This
>>>>> 			is the only point in the code that I see it look
>>>>> for login in any line.
>>>>> 			If that doesn't work send me back the debug and
>>>>> I will see what I can
>>>>> 			do. I am sure some people that use expect more
>>>>> often then I can probably
>>>>> 			quickly tell you what to use as syntax there.
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			# Figure out prompts
>>>>> 			   set u_prompt [find userprompt $router
>>>>> 			if { "$u_prompt" == "" } {
>>>>> 			       #1. ORIGINAL
>>>>> 			       #set u_prompt
>>>>> "^(Username|Login|login|user name):"
>>>>> 			       #2. Modified to read for a line beginning
>>>>> with 
>>>>> 			Username,Login,login, or
>>>>> 			user name.
>>>>> 			       set u_prompt "^(Username|Login|login|user
>>>>> name):"
>>>>> 			       #3. Modified to read for a line beginning
>>>>> with Login or login. 
>>>>> 			but I
>>>>> 			may be wrong
>>>>> 			       #set u_prompt
>>>>> "^(Username|^Login|^login|user name):"
>>>>> 			   } else {
>>>>> 			       set u_prompt [join [lindex $u_prompt 0]
>>>>> ""]
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			Let me know if this works for you.
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			-Lance
>>>>> 			
>>>>> 			      
>>>>>
>>>>> 				-------- Original Message --------
>>>>> 				Subject: Re: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
>>>>> support
>>>>> 				From: Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net>
>>>>> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
>>>>> 				Date: Fri, July 13, 2007 2:30 pm
>>>>> 				To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
>>>>> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net> 
>>>>> 				Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				Lance,
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				F5 login works fine with a minor error.
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				$ f5login test-f5-01
>>>>> 				test-f5-01
>>>>> 				spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l root test-f5-01
>>>>> 				Password:
>>>>> 				Last login: Fri Jul 13 14:26:28 2007
>>>>> from 172.24.100.12
>>>>> 				root
>>>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config # root
>>>>> 				-bash: root: command not found
>>>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				I don't know how to debug otherwise I
>>>>> would turn on debug too. If you
>>>>> 				can provide some hints on debug, I would
>>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				Thanks,
>>>>> 				Sam
>>>>> 				        
>>>>>
>>>>> 				What error(s) do you get when you try to
>>>>> run your f5rancid?
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				Where does it fail if you debug your
>>>>> f5login?
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				-lance
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				          
>>>>>
>>>>> 				-------- Original Message --------
>>>>> 				Subject: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
>>>>> support
>>>>> 				From: Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net>
>>>>> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
>>>>> 				Date: Fri, July 13, 2007 12:45 pm
>>>>> 				To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				Hi,
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				Did anybody happened to hack one of
>>>>> Cisco scripts to support 
>>>>> 				            
>>>>>
>>>>> 			BigIP F5
>>>>> 			      
>>>>>
>>>>> 				boxes? It should be pretty simple. All I
>>>>> want to do is login and
>>>>> 				            
>>>>>
>>>>> 				type "b
>>>>> 				        
>>>>>
>>>>> 				list" which is equivalent of "show run"
>>>>> on cisco.
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				However for some reason things not
>>>>> working. All I did was copied
>>>>> 				            
>>>>>
>>>>> 				clogin
>>>>> 				        
>>>>>
>>>>> 				to f5login, copied rancid to f5rancid
>>>>> and added following to
>>>>> 				            
>>>>>
>>>>> 				rancid-fe.
>>>>> 				        
>>>>>
>>>>> 				elsif ($vendor =~ /^f5$/i)
>>>>> { exec('f5rancid', 
>>>>> 				            
>>>>>
>>>>> 			$router); }
>>>>> 			      
>>>>>
>>>>> 				Then modified f5 rancid file and kept
>>>>> only one command in list of
>>>>> 				commands "b list".
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				For some reason its not working. I can
>>>>> post my configs here if
>>>>> 				            
>>>>>
>>>>> 				somebody
>>>>> 				        
>>>>>
>>>>> 				like to see them.
>>>>> 				
>>>>> 				Thanks,
>>>>> 				Sam
>>>>> 	
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From nocph at aim.com  Thu Aug 30 10:41:25 2007
From: nocph at aim.com (nocph at aim.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:41:25 -0400
Subject: [rancid]  clogin tail logs
Message-ID: <8C9B90972DC83D1-FB8-78EB@FWM-M02.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Guys,

How can I see the log of clogin? Something like tail logs.

Thanks,
Phi

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From sam at munzani.com  Wed Aug 29 17:50:20 2007
From: sam at munzani.com (Sam Munzani)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:50:20 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
In-Reply-To: <45EB285310B55542A513F93230F0A5330115DB4F@EXCHANGE0.orm.omniture.com>
References: <20070716173200.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.b34fb90ffd.wbe@email.secureserver.net>
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Team,

I am sorry to reopen this old thread but the question I have relates to 
this old thread.
Attached 2 rancid login files work fine on newer F5 boxes. However on 
old boxes, it prompts for "term type" at the ssh login. I need to insert 
logic in the script to answer to this "term type" question. What's best 
way to handle it?

Pass it as an argument like
f5login -t vt100 device-name

and then catch the variable and add necessary logic for the expect?

Thanks,
Sam
> I have been on vacation for the last couple of weeks or I would have 
> posted this sooner and possibly saved some of you a bit of effort. 
>  
> It sounds like Lance and Sam have put together a working f5rancid 
> with basic functionality which Sam posted last night.  I have attached 
> my f5rancid which I have been running for a few months.  Installation 
> instructions are included as comments in the file.  This version uses 
> clogin so that a separate f5login script is not required.
>  
> This version formats and processes the output to make it more 
> usable.  As far as what is captured, I based this on the F5 equivalent 
> of a tech out.  It grabs a copy of all the configuration files, 
> hardware configuration and software version as well as the timestamps 
> and file sizes for SSL certs hosted on the device.  This facilitates 
> rebuilding from scratch as quickly as possible if this is ever needed.  
>  
> I was able to resolve the bug I mentioned yesterday by increasing the 
> clogin timeout.  On a small number of devices it failed to process the 
> last few commands when running from cron but always worked properly 
> from the command line on all devices [making it difficult to track 
> down].   I mention this because it may be an appropriate fix for other 
> intermittent problems sometimes discussed on this list.
>  
> Any feedback is appreciated.  I hope to get f5 support added to future 
> releases of rancid. 
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Mike
>  
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Sam Munzani [mailto:sam at munzani.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2007 7:49 PM
> *To:* Lance
> *Cc:* Mike Ashcraft; rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> *Subject:* Re: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>
> Lance,
>
> Thanks a lot for all your help. Pretty much you did all the work while 
> I watched what you are doing :-)..
>
> Attached are cleaned up files. In f5rancid file, I have left some 
> basic functions(non platform specific) just in case we expand this 
> script to do a lot more than just "b list" output. In rancid-fe, we 
> defined a new device type "f5", f5login was copied from clogin and 
> remarked some "term length" statements we don't need on F5.
>
> All 3 files are attached and working great. Please be aware, we are 
> not parsing anything at all. All its doing is basic function of 
> running "b list" command and capturing its output. As I expand more on 
> this, I will be sure to share with the audience here.
>
> Again, thanks a lot for all your help today.
>
> Regards,
> Sam
>> I have helped Sam get a working f5rancid which requires a f5login (only
>> because it doesn't recognize the prompt with a space and exit, unless
>> you enter a return before the exit). He is cleaning up all the unused
>> functions and will post it.
>>
>> Once John H. sends out his script I will look at it and see how it
>> differs from the one I did with Sam. I will even help Sam get it working
>> for his setup. We will let you know when it is all working.
>>
>> -lance
>>
>>   
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>> From: "Mike Ashcraft" <mashcraft at omniture.com>
>>> Date: Mon, July 16, 2007 11:48 am
>>> To: <sam at munzani.com>
>>> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>>
>>> Sam,
>>>  
>>> I have a working f5rancid that I have been using for a number of months
>>> now.   I have one minor bug related to tracking installed SSL certs
>>> which you probably don't care about.  Other than that, it works great.
>>>  
>>> I did encounter and solve all the problems you have been discussing on
>>> the list.
>>>  
>>> Let me know if you are interested in trying what I have.  I have tested
>>> it with Big-IP 9.1.2.  
>>>  
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
>>> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Sam Munzani
>>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:58 AM
>>> To: smunzani at comcast.net
>>> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, this is what I see in the log when I do rancid-run now. That means
>>> the f5rancid file(hacked copy of rancid) is still missing something.
>>>
>>> more nfl.20070716.114842
>>> starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trying to get all of the configs.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 1.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 2.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 3.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 4.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>
>>> cvs diff: Diffing .
>>> cvs diff: Diffing configs
>>> nfl.20070716.114842 71%starting: Mon Jul 16 11:48:42 CDT 2007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trying to get all of the configs.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 1.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 2.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 3.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>> =====================================
>>> Getting missed routers: round 4.
>>> test-f5-01: End of run not found
>>> -bash: write: command not found
>>>
>>> cvs diff: Diffing .
>>> cvs diff: Diffing configs
>>> cvs diff: cannot find configs/test-f5-01
>>> cvs commit: Examining .
>>> cvs commit: Examining configs
>>> cvs commit: Up-to-date check failed for `configs/test-f5-01'
>>> cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first!
>>> ls: test-f5-01: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> ending: Mon Jul 16 11:49:41 CDT 2007
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> 	David,
>>> 	
>>> 	Thanks a lot for the tip. This worked well. Now f5login goes
>>> much more 
>>> 	cleaner and the "root" doesn't set sent again. I still have
>>> other issues 
>>> 	where rancid-run is backing up config properly but I am still 
>>> 	troubleshooting it.
>>> 	
>>> 	Now here is a question. What does "bldshgalsjd" mean and how
>>> does it do 
>>> 	this miracle?
>>> 	
>>> 	Thanks,
>>> 	Sam
>>> 	  
>>>
>>> 		Thanks for this tip, turns out that this is also the
>>> reason the
>>> 		username gets entered at a prompt on the cisco IPS
>>> devices. Since it's
>>> 		using SSH and therefore doesn't need a username prompt,
>>> solution was
>>> 		to simply add in .cloginrc:
>>> 		
>>> 		add userprompt ids* bldshgalsjd  (<- something that
>>> won't get sent 
>>> 		during login)
>>> 		
>>> 		Regards,
>>> 		
>>> 		David
>>> 		
>>> 		On 14/07/07, Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
>>> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net>  wrote:
>>> 		    
>>>
>>> 			Sam,
>>> 			
>>> 			Have you tried using telnet to login, if the f5
>>> has it enabled.
>>> 			You may also want to set auto enable in your
>>> .cloginrc for this device
>>> 			as it looks to clogin as you are already in a
>>> cisco equivalent equal to
>>> 			enable since your prompt has a # sign in it.
>>> 			
>>> 			Looking at your next email along with this one
>>> it looks like you are
>>> 			already in a cisco equivalent of enable after
>>> you login. f5login seems
>>> 			to be sending your username of root as a command
>>> after you get connected
>>> 			because it sees this line "Last login: Fri Jul
>>> 13 14:38:03 2007 from
>>> 			172.24.100.12" and it matches on the word
>>> "Login". See below.
>>> 			
>>> 			"(Username|Login|login|user name):"? yes
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: set expect_out(0,string) "login:"
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: set expect_out(1,string) "login"
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: set expect_out(spawn_id) "exp4"
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: set expect_out(buffer) " \r\nLast
>>> login:"
>>> 			
>>> 			send: sending "root\r" to { exp4 }
>>> 			
>>> 			expect: continuing expect
>>> 			
>>> 			You are just using a Cisco login/parsing script
>>> so it expects prompts
>>> 			from a Cisco device and in this case you have a
>>> *nix SSH banner that
>>> 			gets interrupted. I know you can use RANCID to
>>> backup *nix systems. So
>>> 			it knows how to understand connecting to a *nix
>>> system. You might want
>>> 			to try this email thread which asks about
>>> backing up Linux conifgs.
>>> 	
>>> "http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
>>> ml"
>>> <http://www.shrubbery.net/pipermail/rancid-discuss/2006-August/001649.ht
>>> ml>  
>>> 			
>>> 			Or you could modify the existing f5login like
>>> so.
>>> 			
>>> 			I think you have to use the carrot before the ()
>>> to work. I haven't
>>> 			checked this as I am at home and not on a UNIX
>>> system right now. Sorry
>>> 			to lazy to check it out right now. You might
>>> want to uncomment the line
>>> 			below 3. and comment out the line below 2. and
>>> see if that works. This
>>> 			is the only point in the code that I see it look
>>> for login in any line.
>>> 			If that doesn't work send me back the debug and
>>> I will see what I can
>>> 			do. I am sure some people that use expect more
>>> often then I can probably
>>> 			quickly tell you what to use as syntax there.
>>> 			
>>> 			# Figure out prompts
>>> 			   set u_prompt [find userprompt $router
>>> 			if { "$u_prompt" == "" } {
>>> 			       #1. ORIGINAL
>>> 			       #set u_prompt
>>> "^(Username|Login|login|user name):"
>>> 			       #2. Modified to read for a line beginning
>>> with 
>>> 			Username,Login,login, or
>>> 			user name.
>>> 			       set u_prompt "^(Username|Login|login|user
>>> name):"
>>> 			       #3. Modified to read for a line beginning
>>> with Login or login. 
>>> 			but I
>>> 			may be wrong
>>> 			       #set u_prompt
>>> "^(Username|^Login|^login|user name):"
>>> 			   } else {
>>> 			       set u_prompt [join [lindex $u_prompt 0]
>>> ""]
>>> 			
>>> 			
>>> 			Let me know if this works for you.
>>> 			
>>> 			-Lance
>>> 			
>>> 			      
>>>
>>> 				-------- Original Message --------
>>> 				Subject: Re: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
>>> support
>>> 				From: Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net>
>>> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
>>> 				Date: Fri, July 13, 2007 2:30 pm
>>> 				To: Lance <rancid at gheek.net>
>>> <mailto:rancid at gheek.net> 
>>> 				Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> 				
>>> 				Lance,
>>> 				
>>> 				F5 login works fine with a minor error.
>>> 				
>>> 				$ f5login test-f5-01
>>> 				test-f5-01
>>> 				spawn ssh -c 3des -x -l root test-f5-01
>>> 				Password:
>>> 				Last login: Fri Jul 13 14:26:28 2007
>>> from 172.24.100.12
>>> 				root
>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config # root
>>> 				-bash: root: command not found
>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>> 				[root at test-f5-01:Active] config #
>>> 				
>>> 				I don't know how to debug otherwise I
>>> would turn on debug too. If you
>>> 				can provide some hints on debug, I would
>>> appreciate it.
>>> 				
>>> 				Thanks,
>>> 				Sam
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				What error(s) do you get when you try to
>>> run your f5rancid?
>>> 				
>>> 				Where does it fail if you debug your
>>> f5login?
>>> 				
>>> 				
>>> 				-lance
>>> 				
>>> 				
>>> 				          
>>>
>>> 				-------- Original Message --------
>>> 				Subject: [rancid]  F5 load balancer
>>> support
>>> 				From: Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net>
>>> <mailto:smunzani at comcast.net> 
>>> 				Date: Fri, July 13, 2007 12:45 pm
>>> 				To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
>>> 				
>>> 				Hi,
>>> 				
>>> 				Did anybody happened to hack one of
>>> Cisco scripts to support 
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 			BigIP F5
>>> 			      
>>>
>>> 				boxes? It should be pretty simple. All I
>>> want to do is login and
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				type "b
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				list" which is equivalent of "show run"
>>> on cisco.
>>> 				
>>> 				However for some reason things not
>>> working. All I did was copied
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				clogin
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				to f5login, copied rancid to f5rancid
>>> and added following to
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				rancid-fe.
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				elsif ($vendor =~ /^f5$/i)
>>> { exec('f5rancid', 
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 			$router); }
>>> 			      
>>>
>>> 				Then modified f5 rancid file and kept
>>> only one command in list of
>>> 				commands "b list".
>>> 				
>>> 				For some reason its not working. I can
>>> post my configs here if
>>> 				            
>>>
>>> 				somebody
>>> 				        
>>>
>>> 				like to see them.
>>> 				
>>> 				Thanks,
>>> 				Sam
>>> 	
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 	
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From rancid at gheek.net  Thu Aug 30 17:30:32 2007
From: rancid at gheek.net (Lance)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:30:32 -0700
Subject: [rancid] Re: clogin tail logs
Message-ID: <20070830103032.8e114e4890519e5179c192e02d6bca26.3456e125e9.wbe@email.secureserver.net>

New files are created for each device and are placed in the config
directory with a .new extension. OTher than that you would need to do a
debug.

-Lance


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [rancid]  clogin tail logs
> From: nocph at aim.com
> Date: Thu, August 30, 2007 3:41 am
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> How can I see the log of clogin? Something like tail logs.
> 
> Thanks,
> Phi
> 
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From smunzani at comcast.net  Thu Aug 30 20:35:30 2007
From: smunzani at comcast.net (Sam Munzani)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:35:30 -0500
Subject: [rancid]  CVS errors
Message-ID: <46D72A12.1060800@comcast.net>

Team,

I am getting this error for almost all of my config files on one of the 
rancid deployment. It started happening after somebody played with 
directory permissions. I think the permission is now set the way it was 
but I still have the errors.

cvs status: move away `router-name1'; it is in the way
cvs status: move away `router-name2'; it is in the way
cvs status: move away `router-name3'; it is in the way
cvs status: move away `router-name4'; it is in the way

What does it really mean and what's best approach fixing them?

Thanks,
Sam

From mashcraft at omniture.com  Thu Aug 30 21:55:24 2007
From: mashcraft at omniture.com (Mike Ashcraft)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:55:24 -0600
Subject: [rancid] Re: CVS errors
In-Reply-To: <46D72A12.1060800@comcast.net>
References: <46D72A12.1060800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <45EB285310B55542A513F93230F0A53301A39E1D@EXCHANGE0.orm.omniture.com>

Have you fixed perms on all the hidden files? 

-----Original Message-----
From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
[mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Sam Munzani
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:36 PM
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] CVS errors

Team,

I am getting this error for almost all of my config files on one of the 
rancid deployment. It started happening after somebody played with 
directory permissions. I think the permission is now set the way it was 
but I still have the errors.

cvs status: move away `router-name1'; it is in the way
cvs status: move away `router-name2'; it is in the way
cvs status: move away `router-name3'; it is in the way
cvs status: move away `router-name4'; it is in the way

What does it really mean and what's best approach fixing them?

Thanks,
Sam
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From mark.meijerink at sara.nl  Thu Aug 30 22:02:36 2007
From: mark.meijerink at sara.nl (Mark Meijerink)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:02:36 +0200
Subject: [rancid] Re: clogin tail logs
In-Reply-To: <8C9B90972DC83D1-FB8-78EB@FWM-M02.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C9B90972DC83D1-FB8-78EB@FWM-M02.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <AEF0B53B5325184380481DDB22C8E79B3E362EFDE1@planck.ka.sara.nl>

Hi there,

You can check the logfiles in the ~rancid/var/log/ directory. When rancid-run runs it will create an logfile for every groep. Someting like testgroup.20070830.131022, where 20070830 is the date and 131022 is the time. I hope this is what you were looking for.

Regards,
  Mark

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From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of nocph at aim.com
Sent: donderdag 30 augustus 2007 12:41
To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] clogin tail logs

Hi Guys,

How can I see the log of clogin? Something like tail logs.

Thanks,
Phi
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From smunzani at comcast.net  Thu Aug 30 22:09:57 2007
From: smunzani at comcast.net (Sam Munzani)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:09:57 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: CVS errors
In-Reply-To: <45EB285310B55542A513F93230F0A53301A39E1D@EXCHANGE0.orm.omniture.com>
References: <46D72A12.1060800@comcast.net>
	<45EB285310B55542A513F93230F0A53301A39E1D@EXCHANGE0.orm.omniture.com>
Message-ID: <46D74035.9070900@comcast.net>

I fixed my issue. I deleted all config files in my repository and did 
cvs update. Then run rancid-run fresh and it created new version entry 
and things are well now.

Answer to your question, yes. That's 1st thing I did is ls -la in each 
rancid dir and ensured it had proper permission.

Thanks,
Sam
> Have you fixed perms on all the hidden files? 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net
> [mailto:rancid-discuss-bounces at shrubbery.net] On Behalf Of Sam Munzani
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:36 PM
> To: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: [rancid] CVS errors
>
> Team,
>
> I am getting this error for almost all of my config files on one of the 
> rancid deployment. It started happening after somebody played with 
> directory permissions. I think the permission is now set the way it was 
> but I still have the errors.
>
> cvs status: move away `router-name1'; it is in the way
> cvs status: move away `router-name2'; it is in the way
> cvs status: move away `router-name3'; it is in the way
> cvs status: move away `router-name4'; it is in the way
>
> What does it really mean and what's best approach fixing them?
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
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> Rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> http://www.shrubbery.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rancid-discuss
>
>   


From rc.harrison at gmail.com  Fri Aug 31 19:29:39 2007
From: rc.harrison at gmail.com (Russell Harrison)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:29:39 -0500
Subject: [rancid] Re: F5 load balancer support
In-Reply-To: <4697D659.7050006@comcast.net>
References: <4697D659.7050006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <d8f1b3500708311229hb99e0c5g7e876af3e8a1c8de@mail.gmail.com>

I've modified clogin/rancid to work with F5 gear.  See the attached patches.

Unfortunately there is a lot more to a functional BigIP configuration
than what resides in bigip.conf; your best bet is to move ucs backups
off the box (in 4.x code these live in /usr/local/ucs).

Please note that this has only been run against 4.x BigIP systems; it
has not been tested to work with 9.x (and from the looks of your
output, you are dealing with a 9.x box).

Regards,

Russell

On 7/13/07, Sam Munzani <smunzani at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Did anybody happened to hack one of Cisco scripts to support BigIP F5
> boxes? It should be pretty simple. All I want to do is login and type "b
> list" which is equivalent of "show run" on cisco.
>
> However for some reason things not working. All I did was copied clogin
> to f5login, copied rancid to f5rancid and added following to rancid-fe.
> elsif ($vendor =~ /^f5$/i)              { exec('f5rancid', $router); }
>
> Then modified f5 rancid file and kept only one command in list of
> commands "b list".
>
> For some reason its not working. I can post my configs here if somebody
> like to see them.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
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