[rancid] Netgear switches in 2023 (or 2024)

[on at LEFerguson.com]

Yes, Netgear seems to have odd ideas of "managed", but the fully managed switches do seem recoverable from the prior saved show command.

But I have, for example a GS728TPV2 which supports SH but is not fully managed, at least I do not think it is.  It says it has "cloud management" which I do not use, but I can ssh to it and do a show run and get something that looks pretty realistic.  I suspect though it is just one of many flavors for different switches (and software versions of switches). 

What I found though (and remember this was about 5 years ago) was I needed to tweak and change a lot of the code to handle spacing, premature end of files, special characters and such, I could not just string together modules in the rancid.types.conf file.  And maybe I just didn't know how to do it well, and upgradably (is that a word?). 

Anyway, sounds like not a lot is there out of the box, that was my main question, to make sure I wasn't missing something.

Thanks.

Linwood


-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Thompson <athompson at merlin.mb.ca> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 3:57 PM
To: heasley <heas at shrubbery.net>; on at LEFerguson.com
Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
Subject: RE: [rancid] Netgear switches in 2023 (or 2024)

I happen to know the answer to that!  The M4250 is CLI-manageable and configurable.  The key term in Netgear-ese is "Fully Managed", which means full CLI, SNMP, as well as WebUI.  Doesn't mean they didn't forget to include some feature or seventeen in the CLI, but it is supposed to be fully-manageable via SSH.

Adam Thompson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rancid-discuss <rancid-discuss-bounces at www.shrubbery.net> On
> Behalf Of heasley
> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 2:52 PM
> To: on at LEFerguson.com
> Cc: rancid-discuss at shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: [rancid] Netgear switches in 2023 (or 2024)
> 
> Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 06:00:08PM +0000, on at LEFerguson.com:
> > I have several clients for whom I use rancid and they are all cisco.
> >
> > I have one who had a horrible mixture of D-Link, Cisco, Netgear, etc.  Over
> years I modified, kludged, hacked and re-kludged rancid trying to make it
> workable.
> >
> > I'd like to bring them up to date, and honestly between legit changes from
> upstream and my mess I just want to start over.  Also, they got rid of the 'etc'
> and D-Link and now just have half Netgear and half Cisco.  The Netgear allows
> SSH and does a semi-similar show to ciscos, just... different.
> >
> > In some brief consultation with Google I found little, stumbled on where I
> had asked about this 6 years or so ago.
> >
> > Does anyone have workable configs for modern netgear stuff (the ones with
> real configs and current firmware, not all the home stuff)?   My priority is that
> it not include changes that preclude easy upgrade of rancid, otherwise I'm
> going to tell them to stay on the old, or not do change control on Netgear.
> >
> > I just did a clean install on my home system, and I see nothing new in that
> regard, though more robust filters, etc. might actually make it practical with a
> different vendor's name.
> 
> I do not have any netgear devices.  I'd make it work if I had one and I do
> need a 802.3bt switch; the (bloody expensive) M4250 supports ssh, but the
> docs talk more about the web intf than cli and it is not clear what is
> possible in the cli.  If a model supports ssh, does it support
> configuration via the cli?
> 
> Also, depending on what changes you made to the previous version, it might
> be possible to just use the module you changed as a different device type.
> 
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