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From: Fergus Roche <fergus.roche@loudeye.com>
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On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 15:18, john heasley wrote:
> Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 10:12:34PM +0000, john heasley:
> > 
> > please try attached.  set for rancid-2.2.1 maint rel RSN.
> 
> actually, scratch that comment.  you probably want this version; but,
> i think the problem is really the case of "Login".  the user prompt
> its looking for is the regex "(Username|login|user name):".  if you
> add to .cloginrc:
> 
> add userprompt bay-nr1 {Login:}
> 
> i think this will work.
> 
> i'm interested to know if the case has changed or if we've made a mistake
> somewhere along the line and inadvertently changed the regex.
> 

Arrgh..Thanks for the help.I was using add userprompt bay-nr1 {"Login:"}
{Login:} works. I also had to add autoenable bay-nr1 1  
Once logged in, the older software version on my Accelar does not
support most of the commands used in blogin and brancid - I substituted
send "config cli more false\r" for send "more off\r" in blogin, and in
brancid, bcc is not available and "show config -all" becomes "show
config verbose"
Unfortunately my troubles do not end there and I am experiencing the
premature session termination described by Andrew Partan on 
Tue, 12 Mar 2002. The .raw file produced by brancid -d shows the output
being terminated within 10-20 lines of where it should end. If there is
a solution for this I'd love to hear about it.

Thanks again,

Fergus Roche
Loudeye Technlogies




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I'd also be interested in knowing if anyone has gotten this to work on a
Nortel Passport (Accelar) 8600, with firmware 3.0.2. I can use blogin to
run commands, but even after updating brancid to use the correct commands
to turn off cli paging and to dump the config, I don't seem to be able to
retrieve the config automatically.

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andrew.reynolds@nspower.ca
(902)428-6508





I'm having problems logging into a Nortel (Accelar 1200) - blogin hangs
and times out. I have had the same problem with 2.2b8 and 2.2 on 2
different machines. I am using expect-5.32.2-65, tcl/tk-8.3.3-65 on
RH7.2 (2.4.9-31), but have also tried expect-5.24 on mandrake
(2.2.14-15)
I have tried various combinations of entries in .cloginrc, but always
with the same result. Any help would be much appreciated.





Thanks,
Fergus Roche
Loudeye Technologies




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thanks.  i'll add this bug to the todo list.  hlogin should be able to
login to the switch and/or enable when the switch does not require a
password.  in the mean time, you have a workaround.

Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:40:33PM +0200, Juan José Muñoz Martinez:
> Hello, sorry for the delay.
> 
> the teo commands are typed in CLI mode through telnet or console, but you
> can set the password for operator and administrator through menu options
> through (first typing 'menu' command).
> 
> the configuration loks like a cisco device, if you are in menu mode you must
> go to CLI mode, if you enter with telnet and the prompt is '>' you must type
> enable and enter password if defined to get privileged prompt '#'.
> Then to start configuration you must enter comand 'config terminal', now you
> get the configuration prompt (config)# and can enter configuration commands.
> 
>  password operator<CR>
>  
> Here is the sequence of commands and inputs:
> 
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524> en
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524# alhambra.
> Invalid input: alhambra.
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524# pass
> Invalid input: pass
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524# conf term
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524(config)# password operator
> New password: ********
> Please retype new password: *********
> Retyped password differs from initially typed password.
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524(config)# password manager
> New password: *********
> Please retype new password: *********
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524(config)# exit
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524# write mem
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524# exit
> HP ProCurve Switch 2524> exit
> Do you want to log out (Y/N)?Y
> 
> 
> For polling of the switch with rancid add the followin lines to .cloginrc
> and router.db:
> 
> .cloginrc
> =============
> ...
> add password 192.168.1.78 login-pass enable-pass
> ...
> 
> router.db
> =============
> ...
> 192.168.1.78:hp:up
> ...
> 
> I expect to learn more about procurve switches command line, I provide you
> more information as I get it.
> 
> Best Regards.
> 
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: john heasley [mailto:heas@shrubbery.net]
> > Enviado el: viernes, 05 de abril de 2002 20:17
> > Para: Juan José Muñoz Martinez
> > CC: rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net
> > Asunto: Re: rancid & Procurve 2524
> > 
> > 
> > Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:53:07PM +0200, Juan José Muñoz Martinez:
> > > I've got it.
> > > 
> > > I've configured login password with "password operator" 
> > command and enable
> > > password with "password manager", and then with the line 
> > "add password
> > 
> > are those part of the configuration?  what is their 
> > significance (so, i
> > may make a note in the FAQ/manpage)?
> > 
> > 

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Wed, May 01, 2002 at 09:13:04AM -0700, Fergus Roche:
> 
> On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 15:18, john heasley wrote:
> > Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 10:12:34PM +0000, john heasley:
> > > 
> > > please try attached.  set for rancid-2.2.1 maint rel RSN.
> > 
> > actually, scratch that comment.  you probably want this version; but,
> > i think the problem is really the case of "Login".  the user prompt
> > its looking for is the regex "(Username|login|user name):".  if you
> > add to .cloginrc:
> > 
> > add userprompt bay-nr1 {Login:}
> > 
> > i think this will work.
> > 
> > i'm interested to know if the case has changed or if we've made a mistake
> > somewhere along the line and inadvertently changed the regex.
> > 
> 
> Arrgh..Thanks for the help.I was using add userprompt bay-nr1 {"Login:"}
> {Login:} works. I also had to add autoenable bay-nr1 1  
> Once logged in, the older software version on my Accelar does not
> support most of the commands used in blogin and brancid - I substituted
> send "config cli more false\r" for send "more off\r" in blogin, and in
> brancid, bcc is not available and "show config -all" becomes "show
> config verbose"
> Unfortunately my troubles do not end there and I am experiencing the
> premature session termination described by Andrew Partan on 
> Tue, 12 Mar 2002. The .raw file produced by brancid -d shows the output
> being terminated within 10-20 lines of where it should end. If there is
> a solution for this I'd love to hear about it.

afraid i can't find the discussion you mention.  can you provide an
example collection from the router?  like
	setenv NOPIPE=YES
	brancid -d router
there should be a router.raw file left behind.

> Thanks again,
> 
> Fergus Roche
> Loudeye Technlogies
> 
> 

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Wed, May 01, 2002 at 03:30:23PM -0300, andrew.reynolds@nspower.ca:
> 
> I'd also be interested in knowing if anyone has gotten this to work on a
> Nortel Passport (Accelar) 8600, with firmware 3.0.2. I can use blogin to
> run commands, but even after updating brancid to use the correct commands
> to turn off cli paging and to dump the config, I don't seem to be able to
> retrieve the config automatically.

are these differences between the platforms or just the newer software?
brancid currently runs

        'bcc'                   => "RunCommand",
        'show config'           => "ShowConfig",
        'show config -all'      => "ShowConfig",

what are the new equivalents?  does the bay produce a consistent error
for unknown commands like the cisco's "Invalid input detected" such
that we could send both sets of commands?

does blogin -c 'bcc;show config;show config -all' router work?  where
does it fail?

> --
> Andrew Reynolds, CCNA
> Senior Network Analyst
> Nova Scotia Power
> andrew.reynolds@nspower.ca
> (902)428-6508
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm having problems logging into a Nortel (Accelar 1200) - blogin hangs
> and times out. I have had the same problem with 2.2b8 and 2.2 on 2
> different machines. I am using expect-5.32.2-65, tcl/tk-8.3.3-65 on
> RH7.2 (2.4.9-31), but have also tried expect-5.24 on mandrake
> (2.2.14-15)
> I have tried various combinations of entries in .cloginrc, but always
> with the same result. Any help would be much appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Fergus Roche
> Loudeye Technologies
> 
> 

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On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 14:54, john heasley wrote:

> 
> afraid i can't find the discussion you mention.  can you provide an
> example collection from the router?  like
> 	setenv NOPIPE=YES
> 	brancid -d router
> there should be a router.raw file left behind.
> 

Using these commands in brancid:

%commands=(
        'show config'           => "ShowConfig",
        'show config verbose'   => "ShowConfig",
        'exit'                  => "RunCommand"


$ brancid -d bay-nr1
executing blogin -t 90 -c"show config;show config verbose;exit" bay-nr1
bay-nr1: missed cmd(s): show config,show config verbose,exit
bay-nr1: missed cmd(s): show config,show config verbose,exit
bay-nr1: End of run not found
bay-nr1: End of run not found
!
$ 


The .raw file contains the full output of show config and show config
verbose, but ends approximately 22 lines prematurely:

$ tail -20 bay-nr1.raw 
        default-supply disable 
        listen enable 
        poison disable 
        supply enable 
        trigger disable 
        back
        traffic-filter
        back
        back
        stg 1
        faststart disable 
        pathcost 10 
        priority 128 
        stp enable 
        back
        unknown-mac-discard
        activation disable 
        autolearn disable 
    
Connection closed by foreign host.
$ 


$ cat bay-nr1.new 
!RANCID-CONTENT-TYPE: bay
!
$

Let me know if you need the whole .raw file, just the last part seemed
relevant.
The discussion I was referring to goes as follows:


Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:57:13 -0500
From: Andrew Partan <asp@partan.com>
To: Robert Klingsten <bladex@engin.umich.edu>
Cc: rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: Newbie: Problems with Catalyst
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 03:32:27PM -0500, Robert Klingsten wrote:
> ummu-cis6513-mr> (enable)Connection to ummu-cis6513-mr.ummu.umich.edu
>closed
> by remote host.
> Connection to ummu-cis6513-mr.ummu.umich.edu closed.

Looks like it could be another case of a router being too eager to
drop the tcp session and not echoing back the 'quit' rancid sends
it first.

Rancid sends a 'quit' and then the router should echo that back &
then close the tcp session (it should wait for the output to drain
before doing the final tcp close).  Some routers have bugs and
don't do this.

I know we had to do a fair amount of expect goo to work around this
for the extreme (in xrancid).
        -asp

Thanks,

Fergus Roche





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>Wed, May 01, 2002 at 03:30:23PM -0300, andrew.reynolds@nspower.ca:
>>
>> I'd also be interested in knowing if anyone has gotten this to work on a
>> Nortel Passport (Accelar) 8600, with firmware 3.0.2. I can use blogin to
>> run commands, but even after updating brancid to use the correct
commands
>> to turn off cli paging and to dump the config, I don't seem to be able
to
>> retrieve the config automatically.
>
>are these differences between the platforms or just the newer software?
>brancid currently runs
>
>        'bcc'                   => "RunCommand",
>       'show config'           => "ShowConfig",
>        'show config -all'      => "ShowConfig",
>
>what are the new equivalents?  does the bay produce a consistent error
>for unknown commands like the cisco's "Invalid input detected" such
>that we could send both sets of commands?
>
>does blogin -c 'bcc;show config;show config -all' router work?  where
>does it fail?

I had to modify brancid to

'show config'           => "ShowConfig",
'show config verbose'      => "ShowConfig",

In order to get it to sort of run. If I set NOPIP=YES, and run brancid -d
router, the .raw output file is complete, but the .new file only has the
following text:

!RANCID-CONTENT-TYPE: bay
!


--
Andrew Reynolds, CCNA
Senior Network Analyst
Nova Scotia Power
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Hello all,
 
I have recently taken the rancid system at my employment and have a question
for the group.
We are going to be changing the names of a few of our routers that have been
monitored with rancid for about 2 months.
What I would like to do is to change the name but retain the previous 2
month history for the routers.
Has anyone attempted this or is they some easy way to do this that I am
missing?
 
The only thought I have had thus far is to rename the old routers base
config and the routers cvs ,v file, then add the new
router to .cloginrc and rerun rancid.
 
Thanks for any help.
 
Chris Poetzel
Argonne National Labratory
Network Engineer
CCNA
 
630-252-7431
cpoetzel@anl.gov
 

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employment and
have a question for the group.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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our
routers that have been monitored with rancid for about 2 =
months.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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retain the
previous 2 month history for the routers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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to do
this that I am missing?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<font
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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From: john heasley <heas@shrubbery.net>
To: "Poetzel, Christopher J." <cpoetzel@anl.gov>
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Subject: Re: Changing a router name
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Fri, May 03, 2002 at 03:01:21PM -0500, Poetzel, Christopher J.:
> Hello all,
>  
> I have recently taken the rancid system at my employment and have a question
> for the group.
> We are going to be changing the names of a few of our routers that have been
> monitored with rancid for about 2 months.
> What I would like to do is to change the name but retain the previous 2
> month history for the routers.
> Has anyone attempted this or is they some easy way to do this that I am
> missing?
>  
> The only thought I have had thus far is to rename the old routers base
> config and the routers cvs ,v file, then add the new
> router to .cloginrc and rerun rancid.

this is the _only_ way i know of to retain the history.  afaik, cvs
provides no way to rename a file or remove/rename a directory.  something
like

% echo "newname:type:up" >> <GROUP>/router.db
% cp -p <BASEDIR>/CVS/<GROUP>/configs/oldname,v \
	 <BASEDIR>/CVS/<GROUP>/configs/newname,v

rancid should do a cvs update before running, which will get the newname
file fromt he respository.  when the name change is complete, remove the
old name from <GROUP>/router.db and let rancid clean-up.

> Thanks for any help.
>  
> Chris Poetzel
> Argonne National Labratory
> Network Engineer
> CCNA
>  
> 630-252-7431
> cpoetzel@anl.gov
>  

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Thu, May 02, 2002 at 04:02:11PM -0700, Fergus Roche:
> On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 14:54, john heasley wrote:
> 
> > 
> > afraid i can't find the discussion you mention.  can you provide an
> > example collection from the router?  like
> > 	setenv NOPIPE=YES
> > 	brancid -d router
> > there should be a router.raw file left behind.
> > 
> 
> Using these commands in brancid:
> 
> %commands=(
>         'show config'           => "ShowConfig",
>         'show config verbose'   => "ShowConfig",
>         'exit'                  => "RunCommand"
> 
> 
> $ brancid -d bay-nr1
> executing blogin -t 90 -c"show config;show config verbose;exit" bay-nr1
> bay-nr1: missed cmd(s): show config,show config verbose,exit
> bay-nr1: missed cmd(s): show config,show config verbose,exit
> bay-nr1: End of run not found
> bay-nr1: End of run not found
> !
> $ 
> 
> 
> The .raw file contains the full output of show config and show config
> verbose, but ends approximately 22 lines prematurely:
> 
> $ tail -20 bay-nr1.raw 
>         default-supply disable 
>         listen enable 
>         poison disable 
>         supply enable 
>         trigger disable 
>         back
>         traffic-filter
>         back
>         back
>         stg 1
>         faststart disable 
>         pathcost 10 
>         priority 128 
>         stp enable 
>         back
>         unknown-mac-discard
>         activation disable 
>         autolearn disable 

hmm.  how many lines were cut?  blogin is just writting to stdout which
is redirected to this file.  what i find odd is lack of an error, timeout
specifically.

could you telnet to the box, enter 'more off' (disable pager), then
'show config' and 'show config verbose', and finally exit.  if it
doesnt truncate; please send the portion from 'autolearn' on to the
unix prompt.

> Connection closed by foreign host.
> $ 
> 
> 
> $ cat bay-nr1.new 
> !RANCID-CONTENT-TYPE: bay
> !
> $
> 
> Let me know if you need the whole .raw file, just the last part seemed
> relevant.
> The discussion I was referring to goes as follows:
> 
> 
> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:57:13 -0500
> From: Andrew Partan <asp@partan.com>
> To: Robert Klingsten <bladex@engin.umich.edu>
> Cc: rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: Newbie: Problems with Catalyst
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 03:32:27PM -0500, Robert Klingsten wrote:
> > ummu-cis6513-mr> (enable)Connection to ummu-cis6513-mr.ummu.umich.edu
> >closed
> > by remote host.
> > Connection to ummu-cis6513-mr.ummu.umich.edu closed.
> 
> Looks like it could be another case of a router being too eager to
> drop the tcp session and not echoing back the 'quit' rancid sends
> it first.
> 
> Rancid sends a 'quit' and then the router should echo that back &
> then close the tcp session (it should wait for the output to drain
> before doing the final tcp close).  Some routers have bugs and
> don't do this.
> 
> I know we had to do a fair amount of expect goo to work around this
> for the extreme (in xrancid).
>         -asp
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fergus Roche
> 
> 
> 

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Thu, May 02, 2002 at 09:00:31PM -0300, andrew.reynolds@nspower.ca:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Wed, May 01, 2002 at 03:30:23PM -0300, andrew.reynolds@nspower.ca:
> >>
> >> I'd also be interested in knowing if anyone has gotten this to work on a
> >> Nortel Passport (Accelar) 8600, with firmware 3.0.2. I can use blogin to
> >> run commands, but even after updating brancid to use the correct
> commands
> >> to turn off cli paging and to dump the config, I don't seem to be able
> to
> >> retrieve the config automatically.
> >
> >are these differences between the platforms or just the newer software?
> >brancid currently runs
> >
> >        'bcc'                   => "RunCommand",
> >       'show config'           => "ShowConfig",
> >        'show config -all'      => "ShowConfig",
> >
> >what are the new equivalents?  does the bay produce a consistent error
> >for unknown commands like the cisco's "Invalid input detected" such
> >that we could send both sets of commands?
> >
> >does blogin -c 'bcc;show config;show config -all' router work?  where
> >does it fail?
> 
> I had to modify brancid to
> 
> 'show config'           => "ShowConfig",
> 'show config verbose'      => "ShowConfig",
> 
> In order to get it to sort of run. If I set NOPIP=YES, and run brancid -d
> router, the .raw output file is complete, but the .new file only has the
> following text:
> 
> !RANCID-CONTENT-TYPE: bay
> !

i'd guess that this is a login problem or that blogin is failing to
run the commands properly.  try

	blogin -c 'bcc;show config;show config verbose' router

it should run all three commands (whatever bcc is/does).

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From: john heasley <heas@shrubbery.net>
To: rancid-announce@guelah.shrubbery.net, rancid-discuss@guelah.shrubbery.net
Subject: rancid 2.2.1
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i've made rancid-2.2.1 available for ftp from ftp.shrubbery.net:/pub/rancid

*** if you make use of the looking glass (lg) scripts that come with rancid,
    PLEASE upgrade.  with some versions of solaris' bourne shell, someone
    with access to the looking glass could run arbitrary commands.  i know
    that this is not a problem under netbsd, but do not know about any other
    operating systems whose bourne shell might be from source similar to
    solaris.

2.2.1
        rancid: npe400 cpu eeprom info o/p format changed in 12.0.21S1 -
        spotted by tom campbell

        fix problem in *login where if there was a login failure we would try
        to disconnect gracefully (albeit incorrectly).  writing to the
        half-closed socket would not return an error (at least on some
        platform/expect combinations or even consistently) and expect would
        hang.

        add device name to diff mail subject when -r is specified

        add -m <mail rcpt> option to do-diffs and control_rancid to allow
        specific mail recipient.  intended for use with -r to trigger diffs
        off specific events.

        router.db(5): note that PIX is a 'cisco' - thank kris gulka

        *login: match openssh prompt for host key to ip key mismatch

        rancid: add disk/slot2

        rancid: 12.2 show c7200 o/p for midplane changed

        lg: use table inet.0 terse for sh ip route on juniper instead of
        forwarding-table destination

        rancid: 12.0S(21) added "FRU" field in show diagbus output.
        Also look for a couple more things in some show diag output
        and sort the output a bit better.  Also look for 'controler'
        (cisco can't always spell - thanks to Terry Kennedy for
        spotting the misspelling).

        lg: filter ["`'] from args

        rancid: fix username secret filtering

        alogin: misplaced brace caused improper return from proc login

        relax the check ping and traceroute check of hostname arguments such
        that non-fqdn hosts are allowed.  ie: just check that arg chars are
        valid dns chars and leave the resolve errors to the router.

        Add initial support for Force10.

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To: "'john heasley '" <heas@shrubbery.net>
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Subject: RE: blogin Timeout
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> > On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 14:54, john heasley wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > afraid i can't find the discussion you mention.  can you provide an
> > > example collection from the router?  like
> > > 	setenv NOPIPE=YES
> > > 	brancid -d router
> > > there should be a router.raw file left behind.
> > > 
> > 
> > Using these commands in brancid:
> > 
> > %commands=(
> >         'show config'           => "ShowConfig",
> >         'show config verbose'   => "ShowConfig",
> >         'exit'                  => "RunCommand"
> > 
> > 
> > $ brancid -d bay-nr1
> > executing blogin -t 90 -c"show config;show config verbose;exit"
bay-nr1
> > bay-nr1: missed cmd(s): show config,show config verbose,exit
> > bay-nr1: missed cmd(s): show config,show config verbose,exit
> > bay-nr1: End of run not found
> > bay-nr1: End of run not found
> > !
> > $ 
> > 
> > 
> > The .raw file contains the full output of show config and show config
> > verbose, but ends approximately 22 lines prematurely:
> > 
> > $ tail -20 bay-nr1.raw 
> >         default-supply disable 
> >         listen enable 
> >         poison disable 
> >         supply enable 
> >         trigger disable 
> >         back
> >         traffic-filter
> >         back
> >         back
> >         stg 1
> >         faststart disable 
> >         pathcost 10 
> >         priority 128 
> >         stp enable 
> >         back
> >         unknown-mac-discard
> >         activation disable 
> >         autolearn disable 
>
>hmm.  how many lines were cut?  blogin is just writting to stdout which
>is redirected to this file.  what i find odd is lack of an error,
>timeout
>specifically.
>
>could you telnet to the box, enter 'more off' (disable pager), then
>'show config' and 'show config verbose', and finally exit.  if it
>doesnt truncate; please send the portion from 'autolearn' on to the
>unix prompt.
>

It doesn't truncate when I log in and run the commands manually. Heres the
end part that is missed when using brancid.

        autolearn disable 
        autolearn-mode one-shot 
        default-autolearn-monitor monitor 
        default-autolearn-priority high 
        lock-autolearn-mac disable 
        violation-downport disable 
        violation-logging enable 
        violation-sendtrap disable 
        back
back
ethernet 7/14
        high-priority false 
        linktrap enable 
        lock false 
        state enable 
        auto-negotiate enable
        perform-tagging disable
        tagged-frames-discard disable
        ip
        proxy disable
        arp-response enable
        l3-igmp
        last-memb-query-int 1 

bay-nr1# exit
             Connection closed by foreign host.
$ 




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Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:15:03PM -0700, Fergus Roche:
> > > On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 14:54, john heasley wrote:
> >hmm.  how many lines were cut?  blogin is just writting to stdout which
> >is redirected to this file.  what i find odd is lack of an error,
> >timeout
> >specifically.
> >
> >could you telnet to the box, enter 'more off' (disable pager), then
> >'show config' and 'show config verbose', and finally exit.  if it
> >doesnt truncate; please send the portion from 'autolearn' on to the
> >unix prompt.
> >
> 
> It doesn't truncate when I log in and run the commands manually. Heres the
> end part that is missed when using brancid.
> 
>         autolearn disable 
>         autolearn-mode one-shot 
>         default-autolearn-monitor monitor 
>         default-autolearn-priority high 
>         lock-autolearn-mac disable 
>         violation-downport disable 
>         violation-logging enable 
>         violation-sendtrap disable 
>         back
> back
> ethernet 7/14
>         high-priority false 
>         linktrap enable 
>         lock false 
>         state enable 
>         auto-negotiate enable
>         perform-tagging disable
>         tagged-frames-discard disable
>         ip
>         proxy disable
>         arp-response enable
>         l3-igmp
>         last-memb-query-int 1 
> 
> bay-nr1# exit
>              Connection closed by foreign host.
> $ 

something must be buggered in blogin's matching.  please grab a local copy
of blogin, edit it; in 'proc run_commands' just before the line
	    send "more off\r"
add 'exp_internal 1; log_user 1;' then run blogin

	blogin -c 'bcc;show config;show config verbose' >& log

and send the log file to me.  if you can give me telnet access to the/a
box, that would be much easier.

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I am having an issue where every time rancid runs(do-diffs) I get messages
saying that my router.db file
has changed, and it hasn't.  I ran the cvs status command on it and got the
following.
 
 
[rancid@athena Switches]$ cvs status router.db
===================================================================
File: router.db         Status: Locally Modified
 
 
I recently changed the names of some of my routers when this happened.  If
anyone has any thoughts of how to get the status back
to UP-to-Date I would really appreciate it.
 
 
thanks,
 
chris poetzel
 

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messages saying that my <span class=3DSpellE>router.db</span> =
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</span>Status: Locally Modified<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Wed, May 08, 2002 at 07:52:03PM -0500, Poetzel, Christopher J.:
> I am having an issue where every time rancid runs(do-diffs) I get messages
> saying that my router.db file
> has changed, and it hasn't.  I ran the cvs status command on it and got the
> following.
>  
>  
> [rancid@athena Switches]$ cvs status router.db
> ===================================================================
> File: router.db         Status: Locally Modified
>  
>  
> I recently changed the names of some of my routers when this happened.  If
> anyone has any thoughts of how to get the status back
> to UP-to-Date I would really appreciate it.
>  
>  
> thanks,
>  
> chris poetzel

if this file gets modified (add/delete/rename a device), rancid should
commit the file after it show you the diff of the file.  if it isnt
committed when rancid runs, then its having some sort of problem with
the commit which should appear in the log file.

if nothing appears there, please see the CVS section of the FAQ.

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[rancid@athena Switches]$ cvs commit router.db


-andrew



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Wed, May 08, 2002 at 07:52:03PM -0500, Poetzel, Christopher J.:
> I am having an issue where every time rancid runs(do-diffs) I get messages
> saying that my router.db file
> has changed, and it hasn't.  I ran the cvs status command on it and got
the
> following.
>  
>  
> [rancid@athena Switches]$ cvs status router.db
> ===================================================================
> File: router.db         Status: Locally Modified
>  
>  
> I recently changed the names of some of my routers when this happened.  If
> anyone has any thoughts of how to get the status back
> to UP-to-Date I would really appreciate it.
>  
>  
> thanks,
>  
> chris poetzel

if this file gets modified (add/delete/rename a device), rancid should
commit the file after it show you the diff of the file.  if it isnt
committed when rancid runs, then its having some sort of problem with
the commit which should appear in the log file.

if nothing appears there, please see the CVS section of the FAQ.

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> [rancid@athena Switches]$ cvs commit router.db
> 
> 
> -andrew

i guess i'm interested in how it got to this state.  only way
it should be possible is if the file were modified between runs.

that is, given folks' confusion with cvs, i'd prefer that rancid
take of it and it should have.  so, if i've buggered it, i would
like to know what happened so i can fix it.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:17 PM
> To: Poetzel, Christopher J.
> Cc: rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: Status Locally Modified
> 
> 
> Wed, May 08, 2002 at 07:52:03PM -0500, Poetzel, Christopher J.:
> > I am having an issue where every time rancid runs(do-diffs) I get messages
> > saying that my router.db file
> > has changed, and it hasn't.  I ran the cvs status command on it and got
> the
> > following.
> >  
> >  
> > [rancid@athena Switches]$ cvs status router.db
> > ===================================================================
> > File: router.db         Status: Locally Modified
> >  
> >  
> > I recently changed the names of some of my routers when this happened.  If
> > anyone has any thoughts of how to get the status back
> > to UP-to-Date I would really appreciate it.
> >  
> >  
> > thanks,
> >  
> > chris poetzel
> 
> if this file gets modified (add/delete/rename a device), rancid should
> commit the file after it show you the diff of the file.  if it isnt
> committed when rancid runs, then its having some sort of problem with
> the commit which should appear in the log file.
> 
> if nothing appears there, please see the CVS section of the FAQ.

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>i guess i'm interested in how it got to this state.  only way
>it should be possible is if the file were modified between runs.
>
>that is, given folks' confusion with cvs, i'd prefer that rancid
>take of it and it should have.  so, if i've buggered it, i would
>like to know what happened so i can fix it.

I have had the same problem and the same question.  

Numerous times I have had rancid report various problems, and the files are
always showing a "Locally Modified" status.  I have ranted to the others
(only a small handful of admins) about how to use cvs, and everyone claims
that they have always done it the right way.  It remains a mystery to this
day...  (I still think it is human error :-P )

-andrew

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I run do-diffs once a day and I modify router.db whenever a new device is added to the network.  I have never had the need to run cvs commit router.db.

Anchi

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Thu, May 09, 2002 at 09:19:45AM -0500, Elliott, Andrew:
> [rancid@athena Switches]$ cvs commit router.db
> 
> 
> -andrew

i guess i'm interested in how it got to this state.  only way
it should be possible is if the file were modified between runs.

that is, given folks' confusion with cvs, i'd prefer that rancid
take of it and it should have.  so, if i've buggered it, i would
like to know what happened so i can fix it.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:17 PM
> To: Poetzel, Christopher J.
> Cc: rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net
> Subject: Re: Status Locally Modified
> 
> 
> Wed, May 08, 2002 at 07:52:03PM -0500, Poetzel, Christopher J.:
> > I am having an issue where every time rancid runs(do-diffs) I get messages
> > saying that my router.db file
> > has changed, and it hasn't.  I ran the cvs status command on it and got
> the
> > following.
> >  
> >  
> > [rancid@athena Switches]$ cvs status router.db
> > ===================================================================
> > File: router.db         Status: Locally Modified
> >  
> >  
> > I recently changed the names of some of my routers when this happened.  If
> > anyone has any thoughts of how to get the status back
> > to UP-to-Date I would really appreciate it.
> >  
> >  
> > thanks,
> >  
> > chris poetzel
> 
> if this file gets modified (add/delete/rename a device), rancid should
> commit the file after it show you the diff of the file.  if it isnt
> committed when rancid runs, then its having some sort of problem with
> the commit which should appear in the log file.
> 
> if nothing appears there, please see the CVS section of the FAQ.

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Thu, May 09, 2002 at 02:07:16PM -0500, Elliott, Andrew:
> 
> >i guess i'm interested in how it got to this state.  only way
> >it should be possible is if the file were modified between runs.
> >
> >that is, given folks' confusion with cvs, i'd prefer that rancid
> >take of it and it should have.  so, if i've buggered it, i would
> >like to know what happened so i can fix it.
> 
> I have had the same problem and the same question.  
> 
> Numerous times I have had rancid report various problems, and the files are
> always showing a "Locally Modified" status.  I have ranted to the others
> (only a small handful of admins) about how to use cvs, and everyone claims
> that they have always done it the right way.  It remains a mystery to this
> day...  (I still think it is human error :-P )
> 
> -andrew

ok, human error it may be.  in the future if folks run into this and
can recall the series of events that led up to it, i'd like to hear
about it.  thanks.

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Can I glob the -r "devicename" 

Ex:  -r ds1*



Dave Packham

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Is there an easy way to eliminate the "show flash" "show dir" etc
commands so I only get the IOS conf changes? And not the file date
updates time or other less useful info?


Dave Packham

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Fri, May 10, 2002 at 11:16:07AM -0600, Dave Packham:
> Can I glob the -r "devicename" 
> 
> Ex:  -r ds1*

yes and no.  the shell will expand it, so yes.  but, the -r option
only takes 1 argument.  so, control_rancid will return an error
(probably unknown group) if the glob expands to more than one device.
also, it does not handle paths, eg: group/configs/device, just a
device name.

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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:16:40 -0700
From: john heasley <heas@shrubbery.net>
To: Dave Packham <dave.packham@utah.edu>
Cc: rancid-discuss@shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: Easy way?
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Fri, May 10, 2002 at 11:26:13AM -0600, Dave Packham:
> Is there an easy way to eliminate the "show flash" "show dir" etc
> commands so I only get the IOS conf changes? And not the file date
> updates time or other less useful info?
> 
> 
> Dave Packham

no, but this (mods of this type in general) is something i am looking
into.

if you wish to do this, comment the pair of lines for each of those
commands in bin/rancid.  each appear twice, eg:

   1114         'dir /all slot0:'       => "DirSlotN",

   1145         "dir /all slot0:",